In a parallel thread (PAL vs. NTSC) there was this discussion about "European fisting movies with aesthetic quality". I thought this was a good subject, and -as a fan of DBM and Videorama- I would very much like to know your personal recommendations.
>I don't usually make flat recommendations without knowing a little bit >about what a person likes or dislikes in a video or DVD.
Okay. All DBM and Videorama DVD's are a little under 90 minutes, anal oriented (oral/vaginal/anal/dp), with excellent picture quality and lighting. My preferences:
- : ugly/fat/old women, heavy fetish (hand cuffs, chains, gasmasks, leather masks), penetration of men
Example: Schlammfotzen has no ++ features, but I like it a lot, as it scores highly on + points and has no - points. Some movies (Drei Fauste im Arsch ; Tornado label) score well on ++, but at the cost of - points.
OK, just to make sure we're seeing things the same way, here's what I did.
I pulled up all the titles that have anal fisting and dp fisting and fist+cock dp's. Here's how I'd score them...
"Caribbean Drift" (-)(I don't think Colette Sigma is pretty) "Gesprengte Fotzen" (+)(Live sound, funny English dialogue) "Handerotik" (tought to rate, I like it, you would hold the 1 male fisting against it, I think) "Handy Katzen" (+)(Dru Barrymore is really cute, but there's a lot of latex) "Inside Debora" (++) "Made By Fist" (-)(Includes 1 male fisting) "Poker mit dem Fetish" (= -) "Schlampen mit der Faust Gefickt" (++) (Daniella Rush and Meridian....) "Sister Blue" (+-)(Balance Raffaella Rizzi agains Colette Sigma...)
Next I looked at titles that had any DP fisting at all. (Oddly enough, DP fisting is rarer than anal fisting.) Just looking at titles not included in the fist list, here are my ratings.... "Crazy Freaks" (=) "Das Tagebuch der Zofe K" (+=) "Devil's Design" (++) "Fick-Engel" (+) "Fistfuck Supershow" (-) "Gran Paradiso" (strong +) "New Ass in Town" (-) "Schreie Junger Frauen" (=) "Trio Infernal" (=) "Twin Lock" (-) "Villa Perversa" (++)
so, what do you think?
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
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hurricane Deactivated User
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Posted - May 28 2002 : 10:33PM
Scott Kinney,
Thank you very much!
"Schlampen mit der Faust Gefickt" (++) (Daniella Rush and Meridian....) Yes, this is an excellent title -perhaps the ultimate fisting movie- with Debora Coeur doing a great scene. One of my favourite Videorama DVD's, on par with "Schwanzgeile Fickluder" [which is softer].
"Villa Perversa" (++): This is a recent DBM title on the Gabriel Pontello label. Is it out on DVD (PAL)? If so, I will buy it tomorrow...
"Fick-Engel": Another recent DBM title, I think. Again, strong doubts whether it is available at DVD.
"Inside Debora", "Sister Blue", "Made by Fist", "Trio Infernal", "Gran Paradiso", etc. These are all classic DBM titles, say from 1996 to 1999, which as far as I know have not appeared on DVD. Unfortunately!!!
"Handerotik": This is a 120 minute fisting compilation. I have tried to get it a couple of times, but apparently it is not available in Europe (VHS or DVD).
"Das Tagebuch der Zofe K" (+=): The only Videorama - Extrem title in your list. The reason is probably that this series is more focused on vaginal fisting and piss scenes. Would you say this is one of the stronger Extrem titles? By the way, have you seen "Doktorspiele boser Manner" or "Bizarre Kreuzzuege"? I hope you can comment a little on the Extrem series.
It's one of my favorites. While I said that I don't have any absolute recommendations, this one shows up in a lot of them. Besides have Daniella, Debora and Meridian, it has more anal fisting scenes than any other video I've seen (include compilations), and samples of most varieties of fisting.No, I don't think it's on DVD...Actually, this *is* available on DVD, released as one of DBM's Hardline Digital compilations. I have it in NTSC, I think that erodvd.nl has it in PAL.I'm surprised, I wouldn't have thought it would be so hard to get. I think it is the best fisting compilation that DBM has put out.Actually, that's just because I only looked for titles that had double penetration fisting for that list, so a lot of Extrem titles fell off the list. A lot of titles fall out of contention when you just look for double penetration fisting. "Schlammfotzen" is a favorite of mine, largely because of Rafaella Rizzi, but as you noted, it doesn't contain any ++ features.
Titles in the Extrem series either click with me right away, or they don't. There's no particular theme or style to them... Here are Extrem titles that I *do* happen to like: Das Tagebuch der Zofe K Fotzen Schleim Lust Bazar Schlammfotzen (Note, it took a couple of viewings, but 'Nasse Spalten' has started to grow on me as well.)
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hurricane Deactivated User
103 Posts 4/02
Posted - Jun 5 2002 : 10:50PM
Scott Kinney,
Thank you for your Extrem (Videorama) recommendations. If the "double penetration fisting" criterium eliminates too many titles, perhaps "anal fisting" is a better criterium. But I don't think there is much of that either in the Extrem series. Perhaps in Das Tagebuch der Zofe K ?
"Das Tagebuch der Zofe K" is the *only* Extrem title that I've seen that has an anal fisting scene.
Out of all the videos and DVDs I carry, 98 have some anal fisting in them, so it's a less restrictive criteria. Where I get annoyed is films that promise anal fisting but under-deliver. For example, "Mit der Faust im Arsch"; anal fisting in the title, anal fisting on the cover...but.... the pictured scene is the one and only anal fisting scene in the entire video. The shame of it is, that if they had called it almost anything else, or used a different cover photo, I would have thought it was a perfectly good tape. As it is, I feel cheated by it.
So, the point of the whole dreary story is that I've made a list of how many anal fisting scenes there are in various videos. Below, I've copied part of the list, cutting off the videos that only have 1 anal fisting scene (more out of respect for bandwidth than anything else.)
# of anal fistings, "Title" 4,"Schlampen mit der Faust Gefickt" 3,"Club Unersattlichen der Fotzen" 3,"Drei Fauste im Arsch" 3,"Edel Huren" 3,"Fistfuck Supershow" 3,"Handerotik" 3,"Hart im Nehmen" 3,"New Ass in Town" 3,"Scharfe Huhner" 2,"Alles im Arsch" 2,"Backdoor Salon" 2,"Debora's Passion" 2,"Die Nackte Gier" 2,"Excess in Gold" 2,"Fick-Engel" 2,"Hart Am Limit" 2,"High Class Fist" 2,"Im Arsch der Nachbarin" 2,"Joker: Die Sperma-Klinik" 2,"Lass Mich Kommen" 2,"Made By Fist" 2,"Madonna's Faust Orgasmus" 2,"Meister Prufung" 2,"Nur Fur Profis" 2,"Ohne Gnade Faustparade" 2,"Pervers Bis Dem Arsch" 2,"Poker mit dem Fetish" 2,"Rosetten Tango" 2,"Sister Blue" 2,"Tempel der Perversionen" 2,"That's the Way" 2,"Tushy Girl Lost"
Regards,
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
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hurricane Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 6 2002 : 12:22PM
Videorama titles don't really mean anything. You can take for example "Junge Fotzen", "Junge Schlampen" or "Heisse Loecher" and add something like "hart gefickt", "hart gedehnt" or "mit der Faust gefickt". Any combination will do.
Your AF list is of course based on the titles Videorama and DBM had on offer for you (NTSC format). In PAL format there are more titles available. If I take the Faust Fucker (Videorama) series as an example, there are at least three other titles with multiple anal fisting scenes: Die Faust im Arsch (89106) Die Faust im Loch (89110) Hart im nehmen (89114)
You're right (well, mostly) and I do like "Die Faust im Loch" (after all, it has Raffaella in it...) But, "Hart im Nehmen" is already on the list.....
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
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hurricane Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 4 2002 : 11:35AM
Scott Kinney,
In my opinion DBM's "Hardline" compilation series was overall rather disappointing. 90 minutes, 6 scenes of which only 1 or 2 really good, the rest average or older material.
Now DBM have started some new 90 minute compilation series, such as "Extra Stark". Extreme content, not for the faint-hearted. Extra Stark 1 is awesome, almost a best of DVD. Mostly recent material, great fisting (all kinds), dildo, bottle and anal action. Wow!
I wished that the Hardline titles had had more fisting scenes, for example. Where I think people saw value in the series in the US, is in its presentation of material or scenes that weren't available in the US otherwise. For example, 'die Nackte Gier' has a great anal and anal fisting scene from "Afterburner", which was never distributed in the US....
I'd read your earlier post on the new 'Extra Stark' series, and you've gotten me interested. I'm trying to see if DBM will throw a few of them in our next sea shipment, so that we can take a look.
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
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hurricane Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 7 2002 : 12:58AM
Scott Kinney -- Yes, I agree, DBM's hardline series should have had more fisting scenes and less filler! Actually I consider the whole series somewhat of a rip-off. Well, at least DBM is now doing something about their compilations programme. Good!
However, what I also don't understand is their DVD policy regarding new material. The best new films are on Gabriel Pontello's label, and these are not released on DVD. Weird. I have some of the recent DBM films that were released on DVD. And they are all so mediocre... No point in comparing them to classic DBM titles such as "Edel Huren" or "Trio Infernal" or "Afterburner".
This week I bought Praxis Dr. Faust on the Debora label, because the boxcover showed some good fisting scenes. Clearly the title + storyline is stolen from Videorama's Faust Fucker series. There is indeed some hot action, including 2 vag fistings. Unfortunately the scenes -in particular the two with fisting- were filmed and directed quite poorly. Angles not optimal, no ins, no outs, no shots of position changes, no quiet moments, essentially just frantic motion which gets boring after a few minutes. Apparently DBM does not have talented / experienced directors anymore (only Gabriel Pontello who works exclusively for his self-titled label?). And it seems DBM is aware of this: neither the box nor the DVD has any information on the director!! The female cast is okay, the male cast week. Obvious conclusion: another mediocre DBM product, not recommended. Anyone interested in buying DVDs with fisting is much better off with the classic Videorama titles.
No one understands this policy, so don't feel too bad..I haven't seen "Praxis Dr. Faust" yet, but will consider myself warned....Not true, Gabriel Pontello works on the Debora series (directed 'Debora's Passion', the Family Blue series (directed 'das Kleine Luder' and 'Dr. Babette'), and XRay (directed 'Opas Laster') as well as his own series.
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat 3713 Posts 9/01
Posted - Sep 8 2002 : 2:37PM
Scott,
Totally unrelated question to the thread but a question nevertheless for you; I read in RAME that Daniella Rush had a serious car accident. Any information on her status? Hope she regains the use of her legs.
I heard the same thing, and I haven't gotten any newer details. Steve Holmes said he'd provide an address where folks could send cards, when I see it, I'll make sure to post it here as well as r.a.m.e.
I hope she makes a complete recovery, too.
Scott Kinney Diversified Video Associates www.xxx-imports.com
I talked to Daniella yesterday by phone and wished her a good 2003. She told me that her rehabilitation goes very slow but she still hopes to regain her ability to move.