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lukemason
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 3:54AM
ok here's a Q how easy or hard is it to make a Back up of My XP Cookies settings and such to Transfer to Vista ?
and what are the steps i should do now to back up on a compatible disk ?
Robert
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 10:16AM
Easy if you are using FireFox.
Just download MozBackup, install it and back-up your FireFox profile, including cookies.
Then use the Restore option once you have Firefox installed on your Vista platform.
conquistador
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 5:12PM
Out of curiosity why would you switch to Vista if your XP isn't broken?
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 5:27PM
Belkin makes a cable specifically designed to transfer files from an XP Computer to a Vista Computer it's called an Easy Transfer Cable for Vista. It comes with software for the XP computer and the Vista computer already has the software built in.
This cable works great for some people, poorly for some and not at all for others. I fell into the not at all category, my XP PC froze while attempting to run the software. That was last July. I don't know if the software has been improved since then.
I ended up copying all of the files that I needed to be transferred to an external hard drive and then copied the data from the external drive to the new PC. The pain in the ass was figuring out where all of the data that I needed was located. Supposedly the microsoft program that comes with the transfer cable knows where the data is located so you don't need to figure it out.
lukemason
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 9:16PM
the new PC i am getting comes with Vista the old PC i have has XP
 
lukemason
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 9:19PM
could i also use a disk like a dvd+/-R disk for this and Use the Backup wizard and files and settings transfer wizard to create a disk that i could use that same wizard on Vista to put the files back ?
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 11:17PM
No. The transfer wizard program is specifically designed to work with the cable.
Robert
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Posted - Jun 22 2008 : 12:36PM
You're talking about a 'conversion' and that's a whole new ballgame than just transferring your 'cookies.' One conversion = 1/2 a fire. :)
I've done about 10 PC conversions over the years (and dreaded them all) and tried many different approaches, including burning DVDs.
IMO, the best approach is to start by buying a portable hard drive. I've had great success with factory recon Lacie drives. Lacie Clearance Hard Drives
I just checked that page and they have a 250 Gb for $89. I own three of these (and two smaller ones) and they have never given me any problems.
Anyway, attach this harddrive to your XP PC (via USB port) and using a file manager (like Windoze Explorer) copy all your C: drive folders (except the Windows directory) to the portable hard drive.
Now you can transfer (at your leisure or when needed) any of these files to your new PC.
The other major concern you need to address is the fact that most of your application programs need to be 'installed' from scratch in order to have them execute correctly (if at all) on your new Vista platform. The good news here is that this is a good time to install the latest versions of these programs, particularly the browser, anti-virus and firewall programs. I need not mention the bad news. :(
Last thought. I usually keep the old PC for a period of 3 months just to be able to go back and recover some program or data file that I missed (or became corrupted in the conversion).
BTW, I use one of those Lacie drives for my back-ups, so in many cases I have copies of files on the back-up drive as well as the conversion drive and the old PC. I guess I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person. :)
Good luck.
lukemason
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Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 10:02PM
this kinda sounds like it's going to be a nightmare to do either way .
conquistador
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Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 11:22PM
Vista isn't really known for being much aside from a nightmare for many users. There are several threads about it sucking here in TechTalk and a general hatred of the OS by the entire world. Do a search.
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Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 11:25PM
JUst don't get one with Vista
blowfish
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 12:24AM
Thanks for the tip.
lukemason
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 7:38AM
no choice mate and for what i want for the Price i cant beatit so i will deal with vista
just wanted to know if there was a easy way to back up this PC and export it to vista .
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 9:45AM
Windows has the "File and Settings Transfer Wizard" in XP which is called "Windows Easy Transfer" in Vista.
Basicially, a little program runs on the XP machine and builds a gigantic file. Then the Vista machine reads that gigantic file and voila.
So, your big issue is where to put the gigantic file.
If you have a network set up between the two machines, I usually just put the gigantic file on the new machine. If you don't, an external USB drive should do the job nicely.
The Belkin cable does a similar thing; as I recall the cable is nothing special - - just something that creates a network between the two machine so the gigantic file can be created and copied by Belkin's software instead of Microsoft's.
Microsoft has gobs of info about migrating (not upgrading, since you're using a different machine) your XP files and settings to Vista.
That said, I usually do it manually so I don't bring all the shit from the registry and whatnot with me. I've found the experience of starting over to be cleansing and not all that unpleasant or bad. You might have to retype some passwords to get the cookies back, but it's a small price to pay for better system stability. You don't want the crap that was bogging you down in XP to bog you down in Vista. (It's got enough problems. ;-)
(Actually, I don't think Vista's *that* bad. It has its annoyances for sure (User Access Control, anyone?) There's just no clear and compelling reason to upgrade, which is why so many people seem to harbor resentment about it -- we're forced to upgrade because Microsoft Needs Money.)
If you're using Firefox, use the MozBackup mentioned earlier in the thread. If you use IE, just copy your FAVORITES folder to the new machine. Your favorites file is in your user profile directory. Easiest way to get there is to click Start, Run and type in
%userprofile%
Click OK and that's where all your crap is stored.
Copy the My Documents folder, the Favorites folder and the Desktop folder to a removable drive (or the other machine) and then copy it to the other machine. (You can click Start and type %userprofile% in the QuickSearch bar in Vista to get to the corresponding directory)
Hope this helps,
lukemason
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Posted - Jul 19 2008 : 7:06AM
thanks for all your help all



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