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PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 12:52PM
Brazzers treating black men normally, even though they didn't used to at first, shows that it's easy to do. It also shows that it isn't complicated using the interracial term correctly since brazzers does and it's just fine. Which means it shows that these other people complaining and other companies not following brazzers type of thinking, truly don't care about black people and view them as not normal. Even though brazzers didn't treat black men normal at first they were I think the first mainstream popular site to change how black people are treated as in using the interracial term correctly. Does anyone know what year they decided to do that or what reason they did this? Was there an incident or they just decided to?
PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 12:55PM
Incest isn't the worst out of all of them but related. You would be right on the money of cp and raceplay. A lot of raceplayers are cuckolds, lot of cuckolds are white, a lot of cuckolds seemed to not alway there mentally, especially with the raceplay part, which means it isn't surprising a lot of them are pedos. A lot of them roleplay children and stuff how they get to be apart of it. Just look up r/blackedfantasy on how they wait for celebs 18th birthday, or r/blacknewworldorder where they mention schools and genocide.
PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 1:07PM
Yeah. But it's ironic since scat is disgusting but not degrading. It doesn't degrade you as a person. Raceplay does, because it includes race. A lot of people bring up porn the same as movie but it's not. That's like saying Django is comparable to those blackface minstrel shows. It isn't. But what is, is porn. They both use stereotypes for one own pleasure. Boondocks use stereotypes but for commentary if you watched the show. So do does tropic thunder, it makes fun of Hollywood back then that used blackface on how bad it is. Game of thrones doesn't promote incest, it shows clearly how repulsive it is. That's the difference. It's funny how people comparing porn to movies clearly don't show the instances where movies that use stereotype that don't use it for commentary, clearly get called out for being racist. There are two types of of people who use that argument, ignorant people, and people who clearly know porn and movies are clearly different but just use that argument that can be disproven with simple comparisons, but they just say it to defend there fetish and porns racism.
PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 1:08PM
That is mainly the reason.
 
PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 1:13PM
Yes, there should be, especially when those fetishes are keeping a group of people aka black people, specifically black men, from being treated normally. Also raceplay has limits. According to some law, shouting a genocide of a race is illegal, which raceplay does. Look at r/blackworldorder r/blackedfantasy, and blackedbooru. They all mention genocide of a race, blacked booru even have a snuff tag of edits a hanging white dude, and aborition of an implied 9 month old baby because they're white. They're are limits delusional prick.
PedRhosT
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9 Posts
8/23
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 1:19PM
Makes it more races when they assume and East African will be fit for running speed when they're more for endurance.
baran132
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151 Posts
6/22
Posted - Oct 16 2023 : 7:30PM
Blacked will never change their name because it's literally become one of the most recognizable porn brands. You literally have celebrities like Ye casually talking about it.

As for DogFart, it depends on what they want to do as a company. The reason they got big in the first place was because of all the extreme raceplay their scenes had. They've heavily toned down all of that, to the point where they don't even say "big black cock" in their scenes anymore. And I think they've mostly toned down the "thug" elements as well, with a few exceptions. The main one is CuckoldSessions, where a black man is the bull that fucks another man's partner. But in order to be less "problematic", they would have to either get rid of that series altogether, or stop have black men as the bull, which would go against the entire brand being Black-on-White interracial.

Personally, I think this is all stupid. Let interracial-focused sites be as stereotypical as they want. The whole concept of interracial porn being special at all could be considered problematic. So why not go fully into the niche? Like I said before, more mainstream "vanilla" sites should incorporate performers of all races without racial fetishization. But sites where their entire premise is built on people of 2 different races fucking shouldn't have to change.

Zingerbrook
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580 Posts
3/17
Posted - Nov 3 2023 : 8:19AM
Just to be sure.I'm not saying they explore race play at young ages. I'm saying that Americans in particular (but not limited to Americans) grow up with an "OMG, skin color differences!!" view of the world where skin color is a primary people differentiator and source of hierarchy. Those of European ancestry see themselves at the top. Some of them see that as wrong and try to help (O' powerful white person helping the almost intrinsically less powerful so-called person of color). Other so-called white people enjoy their perception of themselves at the top (the baddies and Republicans). Some people of other races also ascribe to this perception of society.

The whole thing is a SOCIAL FACTORY for weird racial fetishes. Like, no duh. I didn't mean for this to be critical of American society, but it sort of is.

Edited by - zingerbrook on 11/3/2023 8:29:41 AM

Edited by - zingerbrook on 11/3/2023 8:30:00 AM

Tessa
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337 Posts
7/22
Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 12:02PM
Just came across a video where Sara Jay walked out of Chrissie Mayr's podcast because some caller went off on a rant using the "n" word. Sara confirmed on Twitter (a.k.a. "X") that this was the reason she walked off set. Chrissie later called Sara hypocritical saying that she used this word when performing in porn videos. I looked into this claim. The only video I could find with Sara using this word is a scene with guess who? Yep, Shane Diesel. The same Shane Diesel who tells women to use this word. However, I haven't seen most of Sara's videos so some people may know more about this than I do.

This raises questions: Does it become okay to use a racial slur if a performer of that race tells another performer to use it toward them during a scene? Looked into it some more and it's not only with Shane where white women have used this word in interracial scenes. This leads to another question. Are performers informed ahead of time that they'll be expected to use this word? What if they aren't told until they get to set? Like, what if the producer or director tells them to use that word instead of a performer and they didn't know ahead of time. Even if they can leave, it's not always that simple. They took the time to get ready and go to set- which might require some traveling at their expense. They may have turned down another gig to do this scene and depending on the income. Plus, they could be shamed or subject to confrontation if they refuse, told that they're screwing it up for everybody else including other performers because they won't be able to do the scene without them, or they'll have to leave the other performers waiting for them to find somebody else.

Though I never had an agent on set with me and most of the work I found was on my own, I heard there are agents going to sets with performers and pressuring them into doing scenes they may not be comfortable with and didn't agree to do because if they don't, then the agent doesn't get paid.

Also, what if they're in the middle of the scene and the performer tells them to call them that word. It can create a really awkward situation if they don't comply and ruin the fantasy porn is supposed to be. The same issues mentioned above can also come up in this scenario.

Edited by - Tessa on 3/9/2024 5:59:55 PM

baran132
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151 Posts
6/22
Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 5:42PM
Really interesting questions you bring up. As a porn consumer with no "insider" connection to the industry, I would assume that it depends on whether or not you're talking about pre-2010s or not. I always assumed that the industry as a whole was highly unethical before 2010 and filled with producers who would constantly see how they could pressure girls to do things without outright forcing them. So it wouldn't surprise me if many of these companies had practices of surprising performers with demands on set when they're less likely to say no.

However, I would assume as time went on, many legal battles were won by performers and then it became an industry standard for people to be fully upfront about their demands for a scene. Especially with OnlyFans, where it's much easier for performers to be independent and companies now need to work harder to appeal to them.

Also, hardcore raceplay is pretty much dead in mainstream porn nowadays. And after 2020, most companies have stopped having performers even say "black cock" in their scenes, so the n-word is completely out of the question. The only exception is DickDrainers, which I think is an amateur company. They have a lot of edgy boundary pushing scenarios where girls get raped and abused. But even then, hardcore raceplay scenes are rare, and we usually only see the same girls involved in those scenes.

Performers are just much less willing to do scenes focused on race nowadays. To the point where getting a girl to say "black cock" in 2024 might be on a similar level as getting a girl to say the n-word in the 2000s. And so it would probably be unethical to tell the girls to say "big black cock" in a scene without informing them ahead of time. I would probably apply the same standard to "incest" scenes with hardcore family-oriented dirty talk.

As for whether or not it's ok for a slur to be used in a scene in general? I would say it's completely fine as long as all performers consent and the scene has a disclaimer at the beginning specifying that this is just a fantasy, all performers consented, and that they condemn all forms of actual racism. DickDrainers does something similar to this before all their scenes.

RickFBerger3
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You do you.
201 Posts
11/23
Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 6:53PM
If you take beautiful people, have them strip naked before one or more cameras, then get them worked up sexually, anything that anyone does to those people in a derogatory fashion or manner is what I would call abuse.

Throwing racial derogatory slurs at these people counts very much as abuse. Now, I know there are producers who still think abuse is a theme. And I know they paste disclaimers all over them saying, these performers knew what they were getting into, and they're consenting adults. You know, none of that makes it suddenly pleasant to watch. Aggression in sex can be fine. Even domination and submissiveness can be arousing. But if the point is to put down the performer so she or he feels low and degraded, that's not something I want to see in life. Good sex is something I want to see in life.

We could tell ourselves, hey, it's just a word, and we don't really mean it, so how is that abuse? If the performer is abused by it, then it's abuse. And I don't want any part of it.

RFB3

baran132
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151 Posts
6/22
Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 9:59PM
Well, theoretically the performers would be into it, no? People engage in raceplay because it sexually arouses them. The same way people could be into slapping and choking, even though those acts also could fall under "abuse".
ControversialCollector
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Sex>Violence
98 Posts
11/22
Posted - Mar 26 2024 : 8:59PM
This is still active? I'm not reading the other posts Y'all are.🤐 what's your take on furries? Same 💩 or even Zombie porn. I get science fiction flicks because cyborgs are obviously possible, and aliens well we don't know but this Tropic Thunder idea is just plain retarded. Women are being overthrown by certain people that like labels, now we really gotta have races overthrown by people that like shouting their labels too? I already have a hard time buying videos that just have to point out BLACK and nothing else. Race play is insecure reverse racism now shut...I gotta play nice.
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