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I have completely stopped buying any of Seymore Butts movies after getting sick and tired of his anal queens that "enjoy it so much" that the piss just comes pouring out. Talk about pathetic circus stunts.

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I ve only squirt one time (from Manuel Ferrara's fingers)
and that was by far the most intense orgasm i ve ever had...

That wasn t pee at all... and it gives you a sensation SO strong it s impossible to describe it.

And i can tell yout that yeah there s a difference beteeen pee and squirt. they don t have the same taste...

Axel anytime you wanna make me squirt and cum hard, i m yours!!!
Just thinking about that makes me all wet...

Edited by - melissalauren on 11/5/2004 5:19:03 AM

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I've seen Alisha Klass (sp?) squirt far too many times to believe this was real and that it wasn't just pee, which turned me off to the whole thing and to Seymore Butts movies altogether.

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I stopped buying seymore butts films for other reasons, but I had to buy "Casa Da Butts" to see Flower squirt in that limo. aside from that I'm not buying it from half these women.

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At the start of this year, I could name a scant handful of talent that had ocassionally squirted or were known for it...less than 365 days later that list has more than doubled and most of the names are people that didn't possess this talent back in January.

You do the math.

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You are very welcome on my set next time I shoot SQ101.
Bring your testing tools. No need for the 2 grand.

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I think it is cool to watch but something I would not like to participate in.

Melissa, Manuel may have stimulated and hit the right nerve to give you that great orgasm, but I can assure you it was urine that came out, not some mysterious substance.
But if you are so adamant and sure that Pee and squirt are different than you should collect samples and have them tested in a laboratory. Maybe you will win a Nobel prize for discovering "squirt".

This "pee vs squirt" should not be a topic of debate, its just ridiculous.

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Ernst Grafenberg already did, in 1950

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Edited by - Axel Braun on 11/7/2004 12:31:27 AM

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Why not get some real accepted scientific evidence generally accepted by the medical community?

Axel, if you are so sure of yourself why haven't you had any of the girls you work with taken up Skeeter Kerkove's $2000.00 bet and you front the $2000.00 when they lose.

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The first time I ever squirted and was personally convinced it wasn't pee was in a club with a girl named Loni, I fell instantly in love with her, but it was actually like white. ive never seen it have that color or consistancy since.

I believe squirting is real, I also believe not everyone does it for real. When you are honestly cumming it's hard to know what thehell your body is doing.

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Watcher, I already took on Skeeter's challenge and I even told him not to bring the $2,000 (that's in the first page of this topic), simply because I don't feel like robbing him. Of course I will be happy to give him the money if I lost. As long as we can have it on tape, and the winner gets to put it out on DVD...

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I know how my body works and I also know how to 'squirt'. Drink nothing but lots of water until your pee runs clear. This takes a couple of hours. Keep drinking water, and that's basically what comes out. I've actually been told mine tastes like Evian

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The first modern description of both female genitalia and the matter of vaginal expulsions came from the 17th century Dutch physician, Reinier De Graaf, who in 1672 stated: "The urethra is lined internally by a thin membrane. In the lower part, near the outlet of the urinary passage, this membrane is pierced by large ducts, or lacunae, through which pituito-serous matter occasionally discharges in considerable quantities. Between this very thin membrane and the fleshy fibres we have just described there is, along the whole duct of the urethra, a whitish, membranous substance about one finger-breadth thick which completely surrounds the urethral canal. This substance could be called the "female prostatae".

De Graaf's description of the prostatae in women in reference to the glands surrounding the female urethra represented conventional medical thought for almost 200 years.

In 1944 a German obstetrician, Ernst Gräfenberg, first associated the stimulation of the spot (which he named "G" from the initial of his last name) with the expulsion of fluid from the urethra during sexual arousal. After many years of research, in 1950 he disclosed his conclusions in his article "The Role of the Urethra in Female Orgasm": "If there is the opportunity to observe the orgasm of such women, one can see that large quantities of a clear, transparent fluid are expelled not from the vulva, but out of the urethra in gushes. At first, I thought that the bladder sphincter had become defective by the intensity of the orgasm, since involuntary expulsion of urine is reported in sex literature. But in the cases observed by us, the fluid was examined and it had no urinary character. I am inclined to believe that 'urine' reported to be expelled during female orgasm is not urine, but secretions of the intraurethral glands correlated with the erotogenic zone along the urethra in the anterior vaginal wall. Moreover, the profuse secretions coming out with the orgasm have no lubricating significance, otherwise they would be produced at the beginning of intercourse and not at the peak of orgasm."

Every woman has a G-Spot, and it is very important that men take the time to explore this highly erogenous zone.

So, where exactly is the G-Spot located? The G-spot lies directly behind the pubic bone within the front wall of the vagina. It is usually located about half way between the back of the pubic bone and the front of the cervix, along the course of the urethra and near the neck of the bladder, where it connects with the urethra. The size and exact location vary. Imagine a small clock inside the vagina with 12 o'clock pointed towards the navel. The majority of women will have the G-spot located between 11 and 1 o'clock a few inches inside the vagina.

Unlike the clitoris, which protrudes from the surrounding tissue, it lies deep within the vaginal wall, and a firm pressure is often needed to contact the G spot in its unstimulated state. Usually it is a lima- bean sized, spongy area which responds to stimulation by hardening and swelling as blood rushes to it.

Much has been written about the G-spot, yet most people are still unaware of it or, worse, they don't believe in its existance. Italian-born Adult Filmmaker Axel Braun started personally researching the subject in 1982 and has since published two books on the subject: "G come Venere" and "Il Terzo Orgasmo", proving a new, interesting point: ALL WOMEN CAN EJACULATE.

New tests in the late 90's were able to determine exactly where female ejaculate is produced: the Skene's glands, which are located in a woman's urethra and are made of tissue similar in composition to a man's prostate gland.

Chemical analysis of female ejaculate reveals the presence of high levels of prostatic acid phosphatase, a chemical secreted by the prostate gland and found in semen. This would seem to indicate that a woman's ejaculation is similar in composition to semen (only without the sperm, of course).

The G-spot orgasm, combined with ejaculation, is much like the male orgasm, including the physical fatigue. The ejaculate will come out in different flows, and its amount is very individually determined. Stimulating the G-spot to the level where it will induce female ejaculation requires patience,tenderness and... technique. But it's easier than you think.

Start with stimulating the vagina with two fingers and slowly work your way to the point where your partner will tell you that she feels a "pinch". That's the G-spot! Once you've got it, stimulate it by pressing on it at regular intervals, harder and harder, until you feel the vaginal muscles contracting.

Now lay your thumb over the clitoris and simply squeeze the G-spot from behind, moving your fingers as fast as you can.

When the liquid starts to come out DON'T STOP! The orgasm will not only be very intense, it will also revolve. Let it come and come again and again... right up until she tells you to stop!

Hope this enlightens the non-believers...

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shouldn't it be SQ102?
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No, it would be SQUIRTING 101 vol.7

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Anyhow, back on topic, I always assumed that most squirting was faked by allowing water into the vagina via a douche and then when the time is right squirting it back out.

Whatever it is, I would like to see more titles Squirtwoman 2! Wowsa!

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i like to see more women pee while having sex

cheers, waterproof

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For me it's just good clean wet fun and a way to get around the golden shower issue.

Bottoms up.

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I mean not gaping and anal is huge with double anal fast on its heels. soon we just might see ariana jollee doing triple anal the way she claims she likes it. I gurantee you that one or two of the girls in the industry now will pop up and say they enjoy triple anal too if it becomes a big hit.

it's just like the big tit bonnaza and the rush to cash in on it in the early '90s. you won't even find many of those women in the industry anymore beacause the shift has once again changed. now it's a white girl with big ass, not like that is a new thing but it is not the IN thing.

this shouldn't be focused on the whole "pee vs. squirt," dilema. personally I think it is possible, but all the women in the industry jumping up and saying they can do it now is a joke. just like the next wave of IN fetishes that pop up.

right now it looks like dudes who are eating other dudes cum because it is a creampie. what the s$%^t is that about?

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Edited by - FlowerTucci on 11/7/2004 9:54:44 PM

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The clitoris has been shown to be a much larger organ than previously acknowledged, with only a tiny part of it visible outside the body. Your diagram does not show this. Might it not be wrong in other ways too?

One should also remember that this diagram is from the same medical establishment that, until 1940 or so, did not even recognize the function of the clitoris at all. Who knows, they may be wrong again.

Human males have penises that range in size from one inch to more than ten inches. Is it not possible that while Skenes glands in some women only contain 20ml of fluid, others might be 200 ml in size?

No proof, only speculation, but I don't think this debate is over yet.

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Edited by - FlowerTucci on 11/7/2004 7:56:09 PM

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I've seen Cytherea squirt 6,7,8 times in a row...all massive amounts of fluid, clear, odorless and tasteless. No water or bathroom breaks inbetween.

If that's piss, it's still an amazing act because I know after ONE good piss, I'm DRY for quite some time.

IMO - It's like Psychics. I believe it's possible that SOME people can be psychic, but not all the masses that advertise it everywhere.

Same thing here. I believe some people can squirt. But I know for a fact that some just piss. I've seen it arc out golden yellow with some stars and in a very piss like fashion. What Cytherea does is amazing. Her pussy blasts like an out-of-control hydrant. Absolutely a site to see, especially in person...cameras don't capture it all.

And...once again...if that's her way of some kind of WILD PEE...I'll still be a supporter because it's an incredible thing to experience.

Just my thoughts. ;)

Edited by - KSEXPJ_Wankus on 11/7/2004 8:01:55 PM

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My guess is this: The test will show positive for urine compounds no matter what! $2000 for the Children's Hospital is looking pretty safe.

Why do I think so? Well it seems we all agree ( including Dr. Grafenberg ), that "squirt", whatever it is, is emitted from the urethra. This is a pipe that spends its entire life being regularly soaked in urine, so it will always contain some trace of it. A liquid coming through here from somewhere other than the bladder would be certain to collect some of this on the way.

I would guess that your testing equipment is tuned to detect the tiny concentrations of urine that may be present in a pool or a drinking water supply. The traces from the urethral walls ought to be more than enough to trigger it.

For a control experiment, maybe you could test some semen for traces of urine in the same way. (And have both the guy and the gal empty their bladders exactly ten minutes before the test.)

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Recent amusing discussion (somewhat circular) on this topic...

Have fun, stay wet.

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Melissa and Flower both remind us that it is all about ORGASMS. I love to see a woman have an orgasm, most of all if it was me who helped her to get there.

If she is having an orgasm so good that she "ejilculates" then I love it.

If the truth is that she is in such ecstasy that her bladder lets go, I still love it.

If she can reach these heights of pleasure by deliberately peeing when she reaches orgasm, then go for it honey, I love that too.

Squirting aside, Cytherea's orgasms are one of the most erotic things I have ever seen in porn. If she is acting then she is a truly brilliant actress. I certainly believe her orgasms are real.

If I could give an orgasm that good to a woman it would make my day. If she squirts in my face when it happens, pee or not, I don't mind at all.

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It's not that uncommon for an overactive salivary gland to deliver a spray that can fly several feet, but I've never seen a spray that could produce anywhere near enough to fill a martini glass.
The same goes for the male prostate. Even Peter North doesn't come close to the volume of Cytherea's joyful bursts.

It appears to me that it simply has to come from the bladder.
Could it be that during stimulation of the G-spot, this female prostate-like gland could slowly fill up the bladder?
I don't know, I'm not an MD.
But we always hear that the sensation is nothing like peeing. And if in the throws of an orgasm the bladder is forcefully emptied while the sensation of peeing is masked, then it might as well be urine anyway. The sensation would be the same.

The clarity, smell and taste of the pee depends very much on what she has drunk and eaten in the preceeding hours.
Whether Cytherea and the others are cumming or only acting is not all that important. It is a movie after all. If they look convincing enough I'll never know for sure, and I appreciate that they at least make the effort to look like they're enjoying themselves.

And in real life isn't it more important that the woman comes hard enough to loose control, than whether she squirts she-cum or has a momentary lapse of bladder control?

Is lower volume squirting real? Possibly.
Personally I don't care much whether it has a yellow tinge or is clear and tastes of Evian. Evian tastes a bit like piss anyway.

Something just occurred to me:
If, as it has been contented in other threads, this squirting liquid has properties similar to those of male cum or pre-cum, isn't a title like Squirtwoman, where the guys are sprayed with the stuff, borderline gay?

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Edited by - licker on 11/8/2004 7:12:11 AM

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This is a common medical textbook illustration and pretty accurate. The reason that it doesn't show the skene's glands is because they are so tiny in comparison to the surrounding organs and bladder that you would need a much larger and extremely detailed diagram. I looked for one that showed all these together in proportion but couldn't find one.

It's not there's anything wrong with it, it can fun and even erotic when done right. I do think Skeeter has made a most generous offer, and I just wish someone would take him up on it. Heck for $2000. I think I could squirt outta my ears. LOL

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