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-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 12:44AM
Hey, how's it going,

I just noticed this: "Up and Cummers 119".

It stars Natasha Dolling and Nevaeh Ashton so I am definitely interested. However, the box description reads that Nevaeh "fucks the shit out of" Randy. It just makes me think: does anyone here remember when Randy West retired? I distinctly remember reading an article somewhere about him retiring from performing. He said he was planning on putting his girls together with different and younger performers. I remember him saying that he wasn't crazy and if a girl wanted to work with him and nobody else that he wouldn't turn her down, but he considered himself pretty much retired. However, I keep reading his boxes and checking reviews and...what the fuck? He's not retired at all. He's still performing as he used to. Just an observation.

Also, I seem to remember a time when "Up and Cummers" very truly delivered new girls as well as old girls doing new things. For example, Adara Star was a girl featured in her first ever tape a couple of years ago and Taylor St. Claire's first on-screen anal was in volume 81 of the series. And this new edition does have a new girl in it doing her first video but more and more I just notice the fading quality of this series. Natasha Dolling is by no means an "Up and Cummer." She's been around for a while. So, when I saw her on the box I was thinking that maybe she was doing her first anal or something. No. It's just another scene. I had a similar experience with August Night's recent entries into the series.

Basically my whole point is simply that I don't think this series is nearly as good as it used to be. I've seen some people compare Randy to Ed Powers and I think that is understandable but unfair. Randy's stuff is still light years better than the ultra creepy Powers. It's just that it almost seems obsolete to me at this point.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on Oct 29 2003

barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 2:01AM
Randy West was fine back in his day as a performer. Time to do the "Old Yeller" and take him out back and kill his performing days. I like his movies and if he still wants to work with these young ladies...fine...just don't put it on film. He is in his 50's or so. Time to hang up the shoes...lol. Direct fine...perform...no. Just one guys opinion. His claim to fame is that he got Jenna's first porn shoot.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 3:49AM
Randy West is the weakest link at Evil Angel. IMHO they should replace him with a better director and there are A LOT of better directors out there than Randy West.
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:17AM
I agree Ramsey. I remember not too long ago Tricia Devereaux saying that Randy West and EA have a different kind of deal than the rest. Notice on his movies there isn't a Big EA symbol or anything that would make you think it comes from EA. Does he even release his titles on DVD??? I know it's cheaper to not have to pay yourself then to have to pay other male talent but this is crazy.
conquistador
Deactivated User

Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:17AM
hello

I have to speak up for Randy as, for lack of a better description he is better then bad. Sure he may be old, but wouldn't you rather see his stuff then, ...I dunno say Max Hardcore?

He proves that you can't teach an old stud new tricks, but who cares? The old tricks still work well for him and they seem in context.


ned

Edited by - conquistador on 10/29/2003 4:17:39 AM

 
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:28AM
I don't dislike Randy. I think it's just time to move on. Obviously he can do what the hell he wants. It just gets crazy to see him fucking a 18 year old girl. That's all. It just my opinion. I liked Randy back in his old days minus the weak cum shots.
picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 6:09AM
Randy's DVD's are produced by New Machine.
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 6:16AM
Thanks Picman. I knew it was some kind of weird deal with EA. They must just do his video stuff. I haven't attempted to buy his UP and Cummers stuff for years, so I only knew it from video years ago. Thanks again for the info.
skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 1:44PM
Hmmm .... I see no reason to complain about #119: The casting looks mighty fine and the vintage Tammi Ann clip -- well! That would be enough to sell it for me. Where's the quibble? (Though, I certainly agree with most complaints about Randy, I do like that he often captures something close to "real sex" as opposed to "porno sex.")
-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 2:01PM
Hey, how's it going,

"Where's the quibble?"

If you read what I said you'd see that I like this cast. Nevaeh and Natasha are two of my favorite girls right now. I will probably rent this so I'm not necessarily talking about this specific film. My quibble is not in the girls themselves but in what he has them doing. This series used to be a series of "firsts": first anal, first girl/girl, first threesome, first video, etc. However, August Night, Katie Morgan, and Natasha Dolling have all been in recent tapes and all 3 of these girls are veterans and in no way "up and cummers." So, when I see them on the box I'm thinking he has finally got them to do their first anal or something, but no. It's just another scene. I still like Randy's stuff. I'm just arguing that he has become obsolete, no longer seeming to feature the Jenna Jamesons or Tera Patricks or Taylor St. Claires or capturing younger girls doing new things. Other companies and series do that now.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 10/29/2003 2:03:16 PM

tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:09PM
Although it seems that Randy isn't getting "firsts" anymore, the problem is that Randy was shooting so many scenes in the late 90s and early 2000s that he was getting a huge backlog of scenes.

It's still usually the case that the scenes in his videos are scenes that were done when the girl was very new, or it's a type of first for the girl.

skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:19PM
That's exactly what I was thinking/suspecting but neglected to put into words. (Note to self" Only post at ADT in the morning AFTER having coffee).
-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 4:52PM
Hey, how's it going,

"Although it seems that Randy isn't getting "firsts" anymore, the problem is that Randy was shooting so many scenes in the late 90s and early 2000s that he was getting a huge backlog of scenes.

It's still usually the case that the scenes in his videos are scenes that were done when the girl was very new, or it's a type of first for the girl."

To be a broken record, the problem with that is by the time he releases his scenes they have become obsolete.

Example: "Up and Cummers 81" features Taylor St. Claire's first anal. The production date on the tape is 2-22-00 and it was released on approximately 7-31-00. However, he was beat to the punch due to his slow turnaround. "The 69th Sense" featured Taylor in an anal scene with Evan Stone, production date of 3/00. It was released 7-17-00. So, her first ever released anal is not in his tape.

I know that is merely a different of weeks but if you are seriously saying that these scenes of August Night and Katie Morgan and Natasha Dolling are practically 2 years old, made when they were actually new to the scene, then he has gotten progressively worse.

I am not questioning the value of his product. I am just saying that I view him as being completely obsolete now, delivering girls we've all seen before doing their first scenes from 2 years ago. From a marketing standpoint, that makes no sense to me.


Kelly


PS...On a much lighter note, am I the only one who sees a resemblance between Nevaeh Ashtonand Tricia Deveraux? Am I the only one who thinks they could be sisters?

Edited by - tscfan317 on 10/29/2003 5:07:30 PM

picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 7:37PM
I wouldn't call the scenes obsolete. They still carry some fascination for fans of these performers. I first saw his scene with Jenna Jameson a couple of years ago and thought it was great. Knowing that it's something of a first is all that's important, sometimes. I'm not a big Randy West fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd rather see a scene by him two years after the fact, then an Ed Powers scene a day after production.
-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 29 2003 : 8:10PM
Hey, how's it going,

"but I'd rather see a scene by him two years after the fact, then an Ed Powers scene a day after production."

Good point. Man, that Ed Powers is a damn creepy guy.


Kelly

 
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 7:08AM
Ed Powers killed himself by going condom-only.
FallofBecause
Member

Do you have a masturbation escape plan?
251 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 8:17AM
Different strokes for diff folks again. As much as I'm not the biggest Randy West fan, I would think that there is a good market out there for those into, what is it called?.. May/December relationships ie. older men/younger babes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the market EA are trying to reach with the UAC series?

The only criticism I have of Randy is his lacklustre sperm supply for his creampie scenes. I only wish he'd step aside and use A LOT more younger bucks to deliver the goods.

tpr007
Member

Over 20 years at ADT so far!
325 Posts
7/01
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 1:10PM
Randy West is great in my opinion. One of the all time legends, and one of the first guys I ever saw in a porn film (Rainwoman, I think). He also reminds me of Happy days watching softcore vivid on UK playboy TV!!!!!!!!!
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 1:49PM
As I was reading this again, I was reminded of all the times that I've read posts where people are saying they don't want to see all good-looking young studs in videos. They've said that they want to see a more average looking guy in a video.
I don't know. Just a thought.
Janitor
Retired

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6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 1:57PM
I know he says it often, but other than Ramsey have there been people requesting unattractive guys?
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Oct 30 2003 : 2:05PM
I don't agree with the theory of using average guys. I've gotten into a bunch of debates with people about how I like to see a fantasy of good-looking people.
I guess I don't consider Randy unattractive - just average; and probably about the same age as a lot of his viewers.



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