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AztecGold11
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514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 4:46PM
I FINALLY got the Norton Personal Firewall 2005 off my computer.
I had the Zone Alarm free version on there and I removed that also.

I am ready for suggestions for the best firewall software to get.
I'm running bareback right now.

jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 5:33PM
I took ZoneAlarm off after, I think, version 4.2. Another one of those software packages that started off great and then went into the ditch.

Right now I'm depending on MS's own that came with XP Service Pack 2.

Bornyo
Deactivated Member

803 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 7:00PM
Here's a serious question- If you're on a cable connection, and you use a router in front of that- don't most routers provide a built-in and transparent firewall?
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 7:05PM
Linksys does, I believe most do
AztecGold11
Member

514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 7:19PM
I have DSL thru my phone co. No router.

Edited by - AztecGold11 on 10/8/2006 7:20:39 PM

Edited by - AztecGold11 on 10/8/2006 7:21:17 PM

 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 8:17PM
This is not a firewall per se, but you might try this: SHIELDS UP. https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

This website looks at what information it gathers from your connection, and tells you if and where you're vulnerable, and what to do about shielding yourself. You don't have to buy or download anything.

It's run by the people who make Spinrite and a bunch of other programs, but they're not out simply to sell you their own snake oil. I used Spinrite a long time ago--they've been around a long time, and the site appears trustworthy to me.

Worth a look, IMO. I visit occasionally to see what it says about me, and I learned a couple of interesting things.

Bornyo
Deactivated Member

803 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 9:18PM
Thats a good site, Jayo. I check it regularly.

Aztec- why not pay 25.00 for a linksys router and be done with unwanted intrusions (except for me)?

AztecGold11
Member

514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 9:58PM
How does the router hook up? Internal or external?
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 11:28PM
external, it goes between the DSL modem and your computer
Bornyo
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803 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 9 2006 : 1:34AM
yeah, what Flash said. It's a little box like a network hub from the old days. It's painless except that it requires one more "wall wart" power adapter.
willywilly
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Activated Member
662 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 9 2006 : 2:47PM
Do the 'wireless' routers usually have firewalls within them too?
Bornyo
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803 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 9 2006 : 3:20PM
Yep. There are a few other security issues with wireless routers, though. You don't want open access to your network. It's just a matter of reading the quick start guide and clicking the correct settings.
AztecGold11
Member

514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 8:16AM
Should I have a firewall software on my PC besides the external router? (Read that when looking at the routers online.)
Been looking at the Linksys routers online and they seem to be for a multiple PC network--do they make a router for ONE PC, or does it matter?
PL
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God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 8:25AM
They can be for 1 or many computers.

Personally I use both hardware and software firewalls. I have a Linksys router and ZoneAlarm as my firewalls.

"The universe is hostile, So impersonal. Devour to survive." - Tool

K
Smitten Kitten

Cloud 9
530 Posts
2/06
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 3:06PM
The router protects your computer from external attacks, but a software firewall can be useful to see if any software is trying to "call home" which, if it's not a program you would expect to do so, could be a sign of trojan infection.
And, personally, I would also require WPA with AES encryption.
But good luck getting that to work. Shockingly many devices that supposedly supports WPA-AES, and even WPA2, can't talk to each other with anything other than WEP.
 
justalurker
Member

241 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 6:54PM
I went one step better and limited it to specific MAC addresses. If someone has the skill to get in with spoofing that, plus getting through with WPA-AES they can have all the bandwidth they want.
Flash All-Star Supporter
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11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 10:29PM
The concept of the router is to allow multiple computers use one connection, so they are sold for PC Networks. However, you can only hook one PC up to it if you wish and it won't harm your connection and give you the hardware firewall.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 11 2006 : 9:25AM
I think it is only a one-way firewall. Meaning any software already on your computer can call out without your approval or knowledge.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 11 2006 : 9:51PM
Could be. I need to get a router too (since I want to hook up another computer anyway). Unfortunately it's always one of those things that keeps getting put off...
AztecGold11
Member

514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 8:17AM
I have DSL--do I still use a modem on my PC?
PL
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God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 11:00AM
Yes, it's where the phone connect to the box and that box connects to the PC

All you do is unplug the cable from the PC, plug it into the router port labeled "Internet" and then get another cable to from any of the other ports (usually 1 -4) to the PC where the original cable was.

Simple, right?

"The universe is hostile, So impersonal. Devour to survive." - Tool

DzaR
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Deep Within The Consciousness Of My Own Mind
64 Posts
9/06
Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 6:35PM
McAfee. Get McAfee. It is the best firewall software there is, in my opinion.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 10:16PM
if you mean the data/fax modem card in your PC then no.

DSL is connected:
phone cable - dsl modem (box) - ethernet cable - router - ethernet cable - network card
or
phone cable - dsl modem (box) - ethernet cable - network card

the bonus to getting a modern router is you set it up to dial in and connect to dsl. no need for dialing software to establish a connection.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 12 2006 : 10:17PM
cabled routers are cheap and wireless can be a hassle to set up and use (cable strength, security)
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 13 2006 : 2:47PM
I'm still debating about whether to go wireless. I don't really need it, but I'd like to learn about it, and I could start getting some of the wireless accessories that are really cool.
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