I wont speculate on why he's no longer with RLD, but I gotta reveal, I wasn't impressed with the DVD's he was putting out under this co.

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Here's something to think about:

In the time since I launched Evolution in August, I have personally shot and edited 5 movies - Meat Pushin in the Seat Cushion, Asseaters Unanimous, Black Up That White Ass, Sodomy Sandwiches, and Just Ass For All, plus doing P.R., running the company, etc.

Since Lex joined Red Light in January, he has produced 2 - Lex Steele XXX 1&2

I'm just speculating of course, but maybe Dion found that Lex's work ethic just wasn't there. Perhaps Lex
felt he had "arrived" and chose to rest on his laurels?

Who knows? Like I said, I'm just speculating...

It'll be curious to see how this plays out - will Lex be taking Lex Steele XXX 1&2 over to where ever he ends up? (I hear West Coast)

Gotta love the porn biz! Any word on Jules yet?

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who's doing the sales and distribution/shipping?

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I was just trying to figure out what the deal-i-o is behind the split, absent of any explanation from Dion.

I'm sure we'll all found out soon enough.

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I really do hope that this works out for the best for both of you.

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Thanks Dion
Red Light District.

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I just reviewed "SuperWhores" for another site and I was not all that impressed. As everyone else has said, it wasn't definitely not in the same league as "Balls Deep" or "Heavy Metal." However, aren't we giving Lex a little more credit than he might have deserved here. I thought that Heavy Metal was a Jules Jordan directed series before he left Pleasure for Evil Angel.

I have "Lex Steele XXX #2" coming in next for reviewing purproses. If this is of the same quality of "Superwhores" than I can understand RedLight and Lex parting ways.

These are not bad, persay. They are just not up to par with other RedLight product. And I too was not too blown away by the girls Lex was casting, though Avy Scott, Taylor Lynn, Bella Donna, and Cameron Caine were all nice.

After all of that, I am still very shocked to hear this, but I can rationalize it.

Good luck to Lex at WestCoast. Come to think of it, "Superwhores" did remind more of a Westcoast style production trying its best to be RedLight.

kelly

PS...I just checked up on my facts here. "Heavy Metal #1 and #2" are credited as being directec by Jules Jordan and "Heavy Metal #3" by Andre Madness. The only one I can't figure out is the newest one, volume 4, released just a couple of weeks ago.

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Competitive pricing does, however, raise the bar for us "little guys" to make our movies that much better, to give consumers much more bang for their buck. So, all in all, the customer wins!

And that's the way it should be.

Thanks Dion, for the offer. You're a helluva nice guy and a very astute businessman. If, somehow, Evolution doesn't make it, I'll be bangin on your door with all the titles that I own !

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Enough said,Dion
Red Light District.

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I re-iterate: can't we all just get along?

Ah, the joys of living in a capitalist society. Being a consumer and nothing else I think I'll bow out of this one.

Kelly

PS..."While I think that opinion is largely justified, I doubt Lex himself is very comfortable with it, and I can't help thinking that must have something to do with his moving on."

When I posted up above about how I basically thought that his RedLight stuff wasn't so hot and made me wonder what happened to the Lex who was involved in two of my favorite Taylor scenes from "Heavy Metal #1" and "Balls Deep 2" I couldn't help but think what Lex would think of that. If he were to mosey on over here, I am sure he would be happy to see that we all think he is just a beast of a male performer but frustrated that some of us aren't sold yet on him as a director. I imagine he will try to prove us all wrong with whatever he does at WestCoast.

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I never said you sell "cheap" I said you sell a good product at a good price. But, you and I both know mine
goes out just a tad higher. That's not to say your way is
bad, as I said before, you're getting a lot more of your
product out to the people. Time will tell which method
serves us best, I could very well have to lower my prices in the future to stay competitive. Oh, and just for the record, I don't sell to Tomar.

Also, I NEVER said owning at Red Light wasn't the "right thing" - I simply challenged your definition of "ownership" - I'm sure Vince and Mike John couldn't be happier.

Let's all calm down, take a breath, think happy thoughts...sheesh!

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Now back to the subject matter:

Bottom line, from the titles I've viewed, Lex wasn't putting out good releases at RLD. The move was a wise decision, no matter whos it was.

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The thing I don’t think most people realize is how long it takes for a project to turn into revenue. I bet from the time that Tommy spent his first nickel on Meat Pushin’ it was at least four months before he got any revenue. There’s nothing like a small business victory party for first project completion or first shipment where all you can afford is Pepsi and Pretzels!

The last couple of years has seen a lot of talent start their own companies. But in almost every case there was at least one partner to handle all of the business side of things and the talent needed to merely shoot, edit, etc. I think Tommy is unusual in that he’s apparently handling the business side of things too.

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1 No Cum Dodging Allowed-Mercedes
2 CumDrippers #2-Monica sweetheart
3 Just over Eighteen #2-Jenna Haze
4 Break em in #2- Peaches
5 Cum Swapping Sluts #1

Thanks Dion
Red Light District.

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thanks
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I noticed Lex likes using Big girls & fake boobs
in his movies. Usually a no-no policy at Red Light.

Hey Tom Byron, were you on the debate team in school? hehe

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I was a master debater and a cunning linguist.

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Heard you helped the gurls with
their oral reports!

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Believe me, I wish things could of been better between lex and Red Light District,I had big plans for this,but we just seen things much different,I wanted him to be more infront of the camera with young new fresh girls,and with mike John shooting camera,this porn business isn't rocket science,it's just fuck films,keep it simple,big black dick and little white young new chick,is a beautiful thing,wow if he would of just listened he would of got rich at Red Light District,but he likes older girls that been around longer,and he wants to do more of his own camera work,I wasn't happy with the work Lex did at Red Light District,and he didn't feel comforable at red Light District,so I'm happy hes gone and I'm sure the feelings are mutal,if W.C.P. is were he ends up,I hope he can captiolize on his strengths,Like Jules did with Lex the Impaler,best wishes to Lex.

Tommy you know I love you,and that box with Taylor Rain was amazing good for you,I was a little upset about the game lastnight when I responded to you,fucking Tampa Bay.

Dion Giarrusso
President
Red Light District.

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The strings attached are that RLD has distribution rights on the product, the director does still own his product and gets his cut, which from what I'm told is a pretty new thing to the porn movie biz. Evil Angel was doing this before RLD I believe, or are there differences between what RLD and EA do?

Does the director/owner put up the $$$ to shoot these movies or is it shared?

Nobody has to answer these questions btw, business always interests me so I ask questions.

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I was very disappointed in some of the titles Lex did for Anabolic in which he was credited as the director. His "Initiations" was terrible, coming on the heels of Vince's volumes of titles. I think his best stuff was when he was paired with JJ. That was an ideal teaming of visual talent and studsmanship and, for the record, I dig that Lex digs more seasoned and rumpdilicious women -- though there is always something very exciting about the "Black dicks, white chicks" premise (even though, when the cocks are that huge, it all ends up being a bit of a circus stunt/Guiness Book of World Records kinda deal rather than intense and intimate exploration of sexuality and American's color bars.)

Uh, well, anyway, that's all I had to say. I'm glad also that Tom Byron has his own thing going with Evolution. And I really appreciate his congenial good-naturedness. He, for one, has made the transition from performer-to shooter-to director-to mogul appear seamless, even though I know he's sweating his balls off (in every way possible!).

Rock on,

skronk

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I believe that Lex should stick to performing. Once he got BEHIND the camera we saw less of him INFRONT of it!

However - RLD's future release "Lex on Blondes" looks shit hot!

P.S. I really hope Lex doesn't end up at Weast Coast. Their dvd's are lame IMO. Wish he'd go back to working as a performer with Evil Angel and Jules. I'm crossing everything for a "Lex the Impaler 3"!!

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I dig the fact that Lex apparently wanted to work with the girls he worked with and do things his way. I especially appreciate that he wanted to work with more seasoned performers. I am lusting after a lot of new girls (Betty Sue, Jennifer Luv, Nevaeh Ashton, etc), but if I had to choose between Lex w/ Bella Donna or Lex w/Taylor St. Claire as opposed to him with some new girl I would take Bella and Taylor any day.

Lex had his shot at doing things his way with RedLight and it obviously did not work. I don't think that means he should quit trying to direct. If he really wants to direct then I hope he finds his vision or way with WestCoast or Evil Angel or whoever he goes to. It's just that I still see him as a beast of a performer in front ot he camera who has yet to sell me on his abilities behind the camera. Like I said earlier though, I hope he proves me wrong.

kelly

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What I said obviously struck a nerve and upset you, and for that I am sorry. Sometimes I get a little too heavy-handed in my analysis of things.

Truth be told, I was sick at home with the flu I caught from ECVS, my DV recorder was out so I couldn't edit, so I spent a lot of time on the internet and on this message board dealing with my boredom.

You've got a great thing going over there at RLD. It's really stand up of you to share the wealth with your guys and they should consider themselves very lucky to have you. Lex should've listened to you. I doubt things will be much better for him out in the cold cruel world.

Best of luck to you and everyone at Red Light District!

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When Lex moved to RLD, I was hoping the Up Your Ass series would be continued over there under another name with Mike John, Erik Everhard and/or Vince Vouyer doing the camerawork. But that didn't happen, which is too bad. I hope, now that the Lex episode is behind them, that RLD regroups and puts together an all-anal, all-interracial product line. I think with Mike John, EE, and Vince, RLD has three of the best shooters and directors in the business and that this is something they could really do well. Since Up Your Ass died, there simply has not been any other serious entries into this category: all-anal with black males and white or asian females. Some of the stuff that Evasive Angles puts out has been pretty good, but much like WCP, they just don't put out the polished product that I believe the market is looking for.

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Rumour has him departing for A/D.

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A magazine "owns" its pages, but rarely "owns" the photographs on the pages.

A director can "own" his film, but someone else can "own" exclusive rights to distribute it.

A consumers "owns" a copy of a DVD, but is prohibited from copying it.

And on and on and on.

T.C.

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