I haven't heard of a lawsuit from Nacho or a representative of his, claiming damages for libel, so that inaction sounds like an implicit admission that his HIV+ diagnosis is true.
As I'd imagine living with HIV carries a lot of prejudice and stigma, it would be reasonable grounds to sue for defamation if some falsely reports you being HIV+ as fact i.e. not in satire or parody. It comes across as very odd that nearly a year later, no independent medical test has verified that Nacho is HIV negative, nor have either he or a lawyer representing him taken legal action against El Nacional. The fact that (to my knowledge) neither event has taken place sounds like a quiet admission that the report is factual and accurate.
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Posted - Feb 11 2020 : 11:52AM
As someone who subscribes to the multi-factorial theory of infection and disease in regards to 'HIV'. I'm pretty sure Nacho was probably a classic risk case.
I have been away for years but after hearing his two hour interview with TT BOY on YouTube I fell in love again. I never heard an interview with him. To find out it was all real is mind blowing. Him being a legionnaire and on his own since 14, a punker kid, no arrogance, self deprecating and very confident at the same time. A very kind man.
I quit watching him around the time he says porn died (that was not with TT BOY & may have been only on his own YouTube channel ) and became so fake. May I know why I don't see anybody discussing he said it was a false positive but he has Reiter's? So he still cannot perform but it may not be as bad as hiv. I read people tend to have both. What do you all think ? I loved how amazing he was three months ago with TT BOY interview but seeing the vid he made last fall was heart wrenching (discussing Reiter). He was really the only man in porn I liked hence me stopping around 2003. I didn't like the girls he was doing and he seemed manic in the few. He was gold between 97/98 to 2003 for me and has ruined porn for me because I don't see anybody with his passion. Again, did y'all hear he is negative?
May I know why you didn't bother reading this thread fully? I posted about the possibility of Nacho having Reiter's syndrome literally in the page before. Somebody else mentioned Nacho was trying to demonstrate that his positive result was false.What's your source? Was the testing procedure done by somebody independent and with no vested interest in a negative result? Testing can also show false negatives or in worse cases, testing can be manipulated by unscrupulous practitioners to show a false negative.
Thank you for writing. No, I read all post after my post and only some before. I'm American and on a tiny cell. So much on his YouTube page doesn't have English captions. Oh, and used to large laptop. I'm still confused because he took a store bought test but paid for DNA /PCR test for the 7 girls. I wonder why he doesn't show us his DNA/PCR 72 hour test Sharon Mitchel help create. Regardless, of what he has I would worship him and take care of him in any condition he is in or will be. He is the only one that ruined all porn for me. Everyone seemed fake after Nacho. I have dated porn stars that were great but a little arrogant. They didn't exude the kindness Nacho does. If people were mean to him like he says it's pure jealousy; being a superb fighter, former legionnaire and the greatest porn star in History is very intimidating to some biggots.
^ Well there you go. If you had read the full thread, you'd have seen there was discussion about Reiter's syndrome.
In any case, I'm familiar with that case of Nacho using a home testing kit. Home testing kits in the EU are reliable but a negative test on a home kit is only the first step. As you said, it's curious why he hasn't published the results of his other test if he is adamant that he's negative. A negative test result from an independent testing lab where a different testing kit was used would build a very strong case in Nacho's favour.
It was really painful watching his YouTube videos. He seemed so angry with haters and sad. Glad he seeemed more grounded in the more recent tt boy interview. Maybe it's just a money thing. Back in the day if you were in porn Sharon Mitchell would test you for free. I was never in it, only with guys that were and Sharon was kind enough to test me for free. I was w a guy that did volunteer work for her as well. I did hear since somebody else took the testing over performers have to pay a lot now. If Spain is so backwards that in 2020 they don't know the difference between hiv and aids (sadly, it seemed even Nacho didn't) then I would never be comfortable until I had a PCR/DNA test. The Eliza test he originally did is known to have false positives more than a DNA/PCR test. I couldn't watch him after 2003. So eventually you tire of repeats. I think I'm also in shock he has had to deal with hate. I find that evil.
So we are all confused if he has hiv. We all know he did the Eliza at home test in Spain live on YouTube & was negative. We also know you can be un-detectable & negative but still a carrier. I just saw what appears to be new clips of him with Sins some name like that but really long & no idea if she knows English. She was at his home a couple weeks ago doing a live on insta in Spanish but I had no idea what they said. She is showing clips on her Twitter. No condom. And yes, he is making the face like he is in major pain not like old school Belladonna days. I see on his insta he is on a bike or swimming daily. These girls are not my type but looked high end and one had about 300,000 twitter followers. All made in Spain, I think. Any thoughts? In USA I know we really want him to do the proper test we have here.
And one of you said why didn't he sue the paper?
He has no issue suing a DR that touched him inappropriately.
Also, he is seen at Rocco's gorgeous home on insta live last month. Hmm...if my pal did an interview saying I had hiv and didn't retract it I would be mad. Whole thing is weird. Was the Rocco interview real ? Seems really unnecessary to be interviewed & confirm your friend is Hiv +?
Last article was he had Reiter's (sounds worse than hiv) and trying to get social security benefits. He is selling some hot products on his site & hopefully soon they said USA shipping. He has vid on insta that looks like he is peeing bc he is in a bathroom with back to you, turns around and then shows you a large nacho shaped cock see thru glass with yellow liquid. A fragrance. I am not into pee vids at all but would buy in a second strictly on how nasty the way he advertised it. It's in his feed on insta.
Please explain? Is this bc you feel he is + & you saw condomless sex w Canela Skins? Free clips on her Twitter. I am still quite perplexed if he is +? We saw him take hiv test and it was negative. The anti bodies come and go. But not getting our PCR/DNa is very shocking. He paid for all the girls he was w at time to get usa's PCR/DNa. Was the Rocco interview made up when he said his pal is +? Why is Nacho still hanging out at Rocco's home as seen on live Instagram? He has not made Rocco or newspaper retract? It was so sad seeing him with Canela Skins as she only looked at camera and not him. No connection. If you are a fan I cannot recommend the TT BOY interview with Nacho a few months ago enough. He stated his real feelings about today's porn which he heavily influenced and he was very grounded and cool. On YouTube. 2 hours long not the cut up pieces.
Microscopic blood is blood. So yes, I feel it pertains to hetro anal sex. Which director was it 10 or 15 years ago here in the forum unless article taken from elsewhere said "anal cream pies ruined the safety of porn?" It was right after a small hiv break out. It was a very good article.
That is interesting. I agree it's probably high. Dated a porn performer on & off for years that worked a lot. He said he took that med for herpes (valtrex, I believe) the moment he entered porn & has had a negative test all his years of regular shoots. He has never mentioned the others where you take a med & gone in week. Other porn guys were not "stars" just one of the guys in bukakees & couple vids here & there (no idea how to spell that) one was dark and told me he ate the most disgusting food that would change his taste. You see why they will be nothing but bukakee guys. I always felt badly for Paris Hilton, if you all recall she had a break in in home and or cell and it was reported she had valtrex. I already knew the man that took it for preventive reasons so I never assumed she had it. People tried to humiliate her. I adore her. Now as of last ten years it seems to be all about Hpv. I don't know if any of you have daughters but they vaccinate at 11. In LA,CA I know quite a few not in biz in any capacity, that have it. Very square girls but go to the Polo Lounge at Bel Air Hotel and sleep around. In NYC we are clean freaks for various reasons. Never met anybody there with it. But I am terrified of HPV. Not a good time to be single. If you have a s/o, stay :)
Nacho has HIV and that youtube video it's all a bullshit. Check that autotest and check how long is that video. He never showed a proof of his "negative result" from a legit laboratory or from the lab where the spanish performers get tested.
Agreed. The negative home test result should be backed up by at least a couple of negative test results from different samples screened by independent lab for Nacho to show credibility that he has no HIV.
Assuming that Nacho does have HIV and is on antiretroviral medication already, he can "fool" a home testing kit as a very low viral load can return a false negative.
And he did this bullshit test 7 months after his positive, why?? Probably because he was waiting what happened with the results of all the exposed models and thinking what to do to clean his image. The logical thing would have been to show his negative result (and from a legit lab) a few days or weeks after his "fake positive" and not 7 months later...
I felt like only one so confused. Here are some sad facts from me, one of his biggest female fans ever. 1) My best male friend has had hiv for 20 years. He has not had one symptom. His viral load is very low. T cell high. He has never taken a med (we are originally from Texas so think Dallas Buyers Club film mixed w him not trusting the Government). He does however, have (and he is sober) this pink purple hint beneath his eyes. So I follow Nacho on insta. 2) If the pic is not heavily filtered, he too, has that pink purple beneath eyes.
But what's up with what appears to be NEW canila sinns (I think is name) condom-less scenes? Can y'all go to her Twitter and see. I don't know if she is putting up old scenes trying to help get him biz? She was at his home weeks before these scenes appeared on her Twitter. They went live with a director. All in Spanish. Now he is part of this "all inclusive" porn company but I still only see him pandering to gay market in odd outfits. I don't know if he is selling stills or solo only fans. Seems so but I don't read Spanish. Bc if with a guy the dream of maybe half his fans (all my gay male friends, he is their favorite) I'm sure another male would be in pics. I did talk to people from Spain and they say those test are 99% accurate. I'm with all of you. I would definitely pay for our usa test that is superior. I will go back and look at the YT vid test. Though, I trust you made a valid point regarding the time. How is he that good of an actor in the yt Reiter's video ? Like what the ? He should go back to mainstream stuff. I know he has done reality shows in Spain. I can't find on yt. He is working out daily and seems out of his funk. HIV in 2020 seems better than Reiter's.
Edited by - Cock Choke Me on 9/15/2020 10:14:58 PM
I think the most important question is how long has he been taking the hiv blocker med and what if he had it long before it popped up +? I knew something was weird about the Rocco interview if real saying one of his closest friends Nacho, is +. I guess if so he made the Yt video strictly for his Mom and kids as eluded in Reiter's video.
Do you say that living without HIV and living in a country with access to affordable HIV treatments? Your friend sounds like a very fortunate example but surely you appreciate that people respond differently to the virus and that HIV comes in different strains? Your friend's status is only a meaningful yardstick if his strain falls into a similar group of HIV as Nacho.
HIV still carries huge stigma and prejudice from many people today. I don't imagine the symptoms of Reiter's syndrome are much fun to deal with but I doubt I'll be convinced that living with HIV in 2020 is "better". Frankly, to suggest it seems to be so sounds unabashedly ignorant of world affairs given that the coronavirus pandemic is known to be hindering healthcare services looking after those with HIV or cancer.
I am not too ignorant. Thanks. I never mentioned a country or who is affordable. Sure, if you got hiv and stopped having sex w other hiv + people his situation seems similar to others. I know musicians that all but one still alive in NYC with HIV. The one that passed kept doing drugs. This trio got it from IV use. I am not an infectious diseases DR but with a the stuff out now and how Nacho described Reiter's, yes, it 'seems' new cases of HIV would be a better digognosis in my un-professional opinion. Not trying to disrespect your pain or a loved one. The subject at hand is has Nacho been putting out false test and working ? This community is for that. I don't wish to hurt you.
I'm not talking about HIV from personal experience or that of a friend or family member living with it, my awareness of HIV simply isn't limited to that bubble - sorry to say this but 2+2 doesn't equal 5. Not everybody who has HIV has access to antiretroviral medication or support groups so their status may escalate to full blown AIDS and all sorts of unpleasant complications can result, which is why I disagree about HIV being "better".
The stigma and prejudice I mentioned are pertinent to the original topic because it can explain why Nacho denies his status, assuming that El Nacional's original report is correct.
Whether Nacho has worked with a faked positive test based on a recent tweet you saw with him and Canela Skin performing has another question. Was the content of that tweet from something done recently i.e. since Nacho was reported to be HIV positive or is it old content that's being recirculated? Do you have the link to the tweet in question?
When it comes to Nachos whole career he has dealt with huge prejudice regarding hiv and being gay for being in same room with transgendered people.
Me knowing so many gay men in NYC (not just Texas where pal is) and the musicians I mentioned, one is pretty famous.... We have never treated them differently. Maybe I'm really naive about the rest of the world. Big cities in usa, I don't know petty people that put out a stigma. I'm guessing with the stigma w Nacho, it's evil jealous men that may be in love w him and not dealing w their homosexuality? Just a guess.
However, if we find out he has been dishonorable and providing fake test it changes my whole perspective on the man. Ok, here is the link advertising the day she was at his home, I watched the live Instagram stream. Her hands were all over him & the two spoke with a director (director not at home w Nacho & Canela) but on computer. Then right after I see that, porn w her and Nacho on twitter. Maybe these are old clips? Who knows. She has some even more recent. Just showing what I saw after the live. Here is link 1: how do I make clickable?
There are so many with them before she was at his home in early July 2020 and plenty after. You experts will probably know if this is old and timing meant to look new. Tons of stills with his cock and her what "appears" to be cum all over face. Once you see this you can see a lot between this date and today on her twitter. Again, he may be solo on his only fans and she is trying to help him with misleading. Too bad a Spanish speaking person didn't see above live. [Tweet is no longer available]?s=09
Yeah, that's old footage from long before El Nacional's report so the implication that he performed unprotected with Canela and another performer knowing he has HIV in this case is patently untrue.
Reposting old content on Twitter to promote a performer is nothing new.
Thanks for confirmation. Does anybody know what was said in the live stream ? The first link I sent just advertised the talk. If any Spanish speakers here saw it or I can see if it was clipped on yt. Doubtful.
Thank you. How long has he has the extra curve in cock and why did that occur ? Any ideas? Too many injections for erections? It's sad seeing her stare in camera and Nacho just having no control over the scene like in past.
That cumlouder footage is old. Of course that after his positive he didn't performed anymore and he quit porn. He can't be booked or produce his movies because his test will show a + HIV (the 1/2 Ag / Ac Combo) the HIV PCR will be negative if he takes antiretrovirals.
Could be language issue - but Nacho can produce or direct not perform. John Stagliono has been + for years & goes to work w directing. Nacho said to TT BOY in two hour YouTube interview that he doesn't want to direct because nobody is passionate anymore. I find that funny. Me, being a huge fan of who he was first 4 or 5 years of his career, I could say the same about him.
Perhaps I have too much faith in people doing due diligence but the report of Nacho's HIV status isn't exactly obscure, nor has he refuted it so it would take a very naive co-performer not to ask Nacho about his STD status, as should be expected of any other performer.
Truth be told, I don't know specifically what Spain's laws are on non-disclosure of HIV to sexual partners but in many European countries, this is a serious offence that could lead to prison time, especially if you transmit HIV to them. The porn industry in Europe takes STD outbreaks as seriously as in the US, whether it's HIV or syphilis - Hell, we've had shutdowns when there have been reported outbreaks of HIV or syphilis not related to Nacho's case - so to say Europe has warped values and doesn't care and imply only the US cares is laughable, especially when Marc Wallice knowingly withheld his HIV status for a considerable amount of time and infected other performers.
I think you need a less blinkered view of European values and less evangelism of yours.
^ I called out evangelism on your part, as if values in the US are better, because you denounced Europeans as having warped values and apathy on HIV testing or performing with a falsified test despite previous instances of STD outbreaks having seen moratoriums on shooting in Europe. If the blinkers were turned off, you would see that Europe's porn industry response to HIV outbreaks among performers is treated seriously - a stance not too dissimilar from that taken in the US so it's hardly indicative of warped values.
I don't want to disagree w a guy who doesn't know how to read my intent. I don't know if this thread or other Nacho threads or under his YouTube vids crying saying he doesn't have Aids. . . So someone here or there said Spain is really behind bc they don't seem to know difference of HIV and AIDS. Even Nacho kept saying Aids not hiv in his YouTube vids. I don't know any Americans in industry I am in that mistakenly say aids when it's a matter of hiv at that point. That may be why I thought they were behind. Quoting others reaction here to Nacho mislabeling.
^^ Perhaps if you want someone to read your intent properly, it's worth writing your intent legibly without chopping and changing?
I was calling out your put down stating Europeans have warped values in the same paragraph as the discussion of Nacho possibly working with a faked test result.
I may not speak Spanish like a native but literally on the previous page a Spanish speaker stated that in Spain, HIV and AIDS are colloquially interchangeable in terms of the language used, not the actual virus and the possible resultant condition caused by the virus.
I'm most sorry on this graffiti board you feel I write "choppy and change." I am not here to be combative and mean. It's a porn board. Relax. Smile. Find new porn. Love something or someone new. Best.
He has new content on only fans. I'm guessing it's solo. Who knows if he will be with others at the least in same room. If you think of many of his scenes; a good Dom doesn't even have to touch you with his cock. There are a variety of other things he can do with girls and it would be a shame if they didn't do safe semi no contact on his only fans.
^^ If you're not being mean, why make such an ignorant statement about Europeans? Your assertion that they have warped values based on very superficial speculation is demonstrably untrue given the history of the Euro porn industry's handling of previous HIV outbreaks or reports of them.
"It's a porn board" is a fatuous rhetoric. I don't recall a porn board being an open licence to impart ignorance or misinformation then cower away when called out on it.
I am a polite person. You are strictly trying to be combative. Maybe it's my experience with Europeans. If I didn't state my creditials as a sociologist or ID Doctor, it is safe to assume I am not a pro with Euro stats. This is not a scientific paper that I had published. Please try to refrain from writing. You can call me all the names you wish but I am never going to call you names in return. So this won't end how you want. I am going to see if a block button bc this is odd. Have a lovely day.
^ Telling somebody you're polite doesn't make it so. You conduct yourself in a manner becoming of it and leave others to make that judgement for themselves. I don't see it as polite to condemn a group of people as having warped values based on limited information available.
I haven't called you a single name so your implication that I wish for you to the do the same is under a clear misapprehension.
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