"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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Yes, they are correct, you are confusing it with Twisted as Fuck that I directed which comes out April 24th .

I did want to address the Mark Goldberg/Wallace issue though - I work there and am friends with the owners and I am also there often - to my knowledge Mark does not nor ever has worked for DVSX in any capacity. And believe me, I would know him if I saw him.

Where is this info coming from? As far as I know it is bullshit. I will look into it but I don't think it is true. I am not trying to start any fights here or anything but like I said, to my knowledge it's not true.

The last time I saw Mark Goldberg/Wallace it was about 6-7 years ago when he was briefly editing for VCA - I am pretty sure he just disappeared off the map.

Kylie

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Anyway, no thoughts on Fucking Hostile, haven't seen it, just commenting on the above quote.

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i too, am curious as to where you got your "info." i'm also not trying to start any fights here... but perhaps you should consider knowing all the facts first so you don't go around libeling the wrong people.

you know where to find me.

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Extracting a few of the relevant posts:

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Perhaps you should start at the beginning and confirm or deny that Mark Gold is, in fact, Marc Wallice.

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And I certainly don't see anyone boycotting VCA product after Marc worked there as an editor. I believe many of you have watched/reviewed stuff from directors like Michael Ninn and Chloe to Wit Maverick and Joanna Angel.

Again, I don't know the circumstances but it may also have been a movie DVSX bought from another company. That does happen.

Now, I am not saying I agree with hiring him, if that was the case, but it does make me a bit sad that there are fans of mine and my work who aren't going to watch the product I put my heart and soul into because of something that may have happened that I didn't know about or something that happened before I was there. If that is the case - everyone should probably be boycotting every company for something.

Just my 2 cents.

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And yes, Kylie, it does sadden me to miss out on your movies because first, the brief moment I had to meet you a few years ago you seemed every bit the class act I had heard you were, and second, because I do believe you put that much care into your movies.

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second, how does putting the guy's name on the box equate covering it up?

third, my email is on this site, it's on dvsx, and you have a history of emailing me. but whatever, that's beside the point.

i'll get an official statement from the heads of the company which will explain everything to you, and once you read it, you might consider boycotting porn altogether, considering your logic on the matter.

until then, all you need to know is the bottom line, and that is that dvsx does not provide marc goldberg with a livelihood. and we are not sneaky bastards who maliciously tried to fool you into or out of believing anything regarding this matter.

my problem with you here, astro, is that you are accusing us of relaunching his career (laughable), and in the same breath accusing us of trying to cover it up (a matter of perception). how does that even make sense?

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i'm the only founder at the company who participates in this message forum and occasionally at best. so excuse me if i missed an entire thread.

But you used to participate regularly, so it shouldn't be a surprise that people expected you to know about it. Bear in mind the thread started in 2003.

still haven't read it, btw. what would be the point now.

The point would be to make sure you understand the issues your customers/potential customers may have. Right now, you're dealing with your issues instead.

second, how does putting the guy's name on the box equate covering it up?

DVSX did not put his name on the cover, unless he's had it legally changed to Mark Gold.

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and i'm not finished. so if you don't hear from me again until monday, don't ASSUME that i'm ignoring the issue.

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Enjoy your weekend.

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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Out of all the people in the world DVSX could hire to direct a movie, why give the job to *him*? Ugh.

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DVSX has never at any time employed or conducted business with Marc Goldberg.

Here are the facts on how Xtreme Measures came into existence.

Marc Goldberg's mother (hereinafter named "PRODUCER") is employed by DVSX on a part time basis as a collections agent. PRODUCER also works part time for several other adult companies doing the same job.

In early 2003, PRODUCER approached DVSX, seeking distribution on a movie she would produce, in which DVSX expressed some interest.

When asked who would be directing the video, PRODUCER stated that Ralph Parfait would be in charge of shooting. DVSX approved. When asked if her son Marc Golberg would have any involvement in the production, PRODUCER stated that Goldberg would be assisting Parfait with production. DVSX asked if Goldberg could stay off set, for no reason other than to preserve the morale of the performers.

The date of production on Xtreme Measures is 5/20/03.
Several months after the video was shot, PRODUCER presented it to DVSX, edited as a feature. DVSX expressed disinterest in this type of movie and declined the distribution deal, because DVSX is not a feature company. PRODUCER was left to seek distribution elsewhere. It was also at this time that DVSX discovered that "Mark Gold" was credited for directing.

Nearly 2 years had gone by. PRODUCER had not yet found distribution. Out of financial hardship, PRODUCER approached DVSX a second time, stating that she had invested her savings into producing this video and didn't know what to do with it. As a helping hand to an employee, DVSX reviewed the movie a second time and found it to be acceptable if re-edited into vignettes. The question of whether Parfait or Goldberg directed it did not affect the quality of the content. The main concern here was to help PRODUCER get her money back.DVSX then agreed to purchase the video OUTRIGHT from PRODUCER. Xtreme Measures was then added to the DVSX release schedule, sent into editing, advertised, and slated for release on 4/14/05.

DVSX credited everyone on Xtreme Measures according to the original cast&crew list submitted by PRODUCER.Though DVSX makes no apologies for releasing Xtreme Measures, it was never their intention to offend anyone with its release.

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If DVSX knew that Marc had directed (and from Constance's post I can only assume they knew damned well) then crediting the pseudonym is pretty dodgy, and obviously done as an attempt to not release a "leper" title so they could make a profit/their money back on the title. Instead, it's blown up a little into a PR backlash.

Hindsight is always 20/20 though.

I dunno. I see it as these circumstances here, those circumstances there. Will DVSX release something directed by Wallace again? That's where the proof in the pudding will be for me.

Sorry to continue with the derail Kylie. While I think you're damned attractive, I haven't had a chance to check out any of your stuff for PXP (they needed more performers close to you in attractiveness) and I'm not into the hostile/rough genres.

If you ever put out a title that's just good hardcore sex/anal/dp without the circus act choke-fucking rough sex element with other ladies equally as attractive as yourself (no "filler" performers) then I'll pick that up in a heartbeat. You know, like Woodman-era Private type stuff in vignette form.

Good luck with DVSX,

scipio

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Ok, enough of the bellyaching -- who directed the damned movie? Marc or Ralph?

Some of us have databases to keep accurate! :-)

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Edited by - Jeff @ IAFD on 4/21/2006 1:37:32 AM

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At any rate, I appreciate the explanation, constance, but allow me to say that I find DVSX's business practices, as characterized, to be a little odd. A couple of points:

1) If one of my employees came to me with a proposal as nebulous as you seem to be suggesting, one in which she appeared to be looking to me to help make a success, I would not simply 'express some interest.' I would want enough details to assure myself that we were in agreement on what role I could play, if nothing else. Realistically, I would want enough to assure myself she wasn't throwing money down a rat hole, as well.

2) Ralph Parfait seems to have done all his work for Vivid, which is to say he produced features. In DVSX's shoes, I would have assumed that he was going to do the same for "PRODUCER," and made it clear at the beginning that DVSX was not a feature company. So, it seems odd to me that this didn't come out until after the fact.

I'm not saying the explanation is a pack of lies, though the 'hereinafter' does suggest it passed under the scrutiny of a lawyer (jailhouse variety?). I'm saying that your explanation leaves me in some astonishment over the portrait it paints of such a... hmm... loose operation. It seems that the porn world is even odder than I believed it to be, but I do appreciate you helping "PRODUCER" out of her financial difficulties.

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As far as Marc, this is old news and really isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. DVSX doesn't employ him - neither does anyone else to my knowledge - so really what is everyone so worked up about? Like I also stated earlier in this thread, Marc used to edit for VCA back in 2000 and I don't see anyone boycotting VCA product. And he did a lot more work there than just one movie. A little hypocritical isn't it, to pick on one company? Several people have said, including me, if you knew half the stuff about people/companies in this industry you would boycott MOST everyone's product. It was ONE movie. Is it worth not seeing a lot of kick-ass movies (like mine!) because of that? DVSX has some really good product, so what if they made a mistake.

SO - what does anyone think of Fucking Hostile?

Kylie

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It's a personal thing of course, but I do think it's perfectly fair to boycott everything DVSX because of ONE movie.

Adam & Eve was dropped too after I noticed they'd been distributing Simon Wolf titles.

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Several people have said, including me, if you knew half the stuff about people/companies in this industry you would boycott MOST everyone's product.

Are you happy with this state of affairs? Should everybody just shrug their shoulders and say, "Well, they're porners, what do you expect?"
Maybe we should expect a little better and let people know it, instead.

A little hypocritical isn't it, to pick on one company?

I see this argument as akin to my complaining as a kid that it wasn't fair when my parents whacked me for bad behavior that my friends were doing, too. Somehow my parents were never impressed with that argument. They thought I should be responsible for my own behavior and stop looking for excuses in the behavior of others.

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I'll second what Hardware said. Basically it all comes down to he said / she said between Connie and Wallice (from his AVN article). I want to believe Connie, but the altruism that comes out in her lawyerish post does a great job of contradicting her other comments about how it's basically okay to be a bastard if everybody else is being a bastard. There's motives and questions on both sides, and it's definitely plenty to ponder.

As for Fucking Hostile , with Kylie behind it I'm pretty sure it's a pretty hot movie with the care and passion Kylie seems to put into everything she does.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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This was supposed to be a thread discussing a movie and it has gone from bad to worse and now people are just getting mean.

For the record: Fucking Hostile was directed by Craven Moorehead, not me (my movie is Twisted as Fuck) I was simply trying to get this thread back on topic...

Kylie

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Edited by - kylie ireland on 4/21/2006 2:41:54 PM

Edited by - kylie ireland on 4/21/2006 2:43:36 PM

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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please quote me on where i basically said it's okay to be a bastard if everybody else is being a bastard.

*grabs the popcorn*

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Edited by - YogaDame on 4/22/2006 6:54:05 PM

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I met Constance, she was cool, would I start spitting on her over some lame ass stuff that was beyond her control at the time? How can she help or change being lied to? Whatever.

People need to chill out, and smoke some fucking drugs or some shit, calm down ya'll.

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