*I think girl + white guy + black guy DP's look very good. In most cases, the three are a distinct skin tone and everything can be seen great if the scene is shot well. What do you think?
*This one may be a little tougher: I've always found standing DP's to be rad.
Wow! Congrats Selena! This is definately going into my new years resolution *buy Selena Silver's RLD gangbang*!
As for requests; 1.) I'd like to see you with cum dripping off your body!! Did I just say that? *not very lady like Kel!* lol! But I guess that's a given, right? 2.) Also, I've read all about your paintings but I'd really like to see them. Maybe you could work that in somehow?
Who says that insomnia is all bad? When I get first digs at this kind of thing? lol! Thanks Selena, I really enjoy your posts.
you and Katja in the same gangbang video. Wow!!! Can't wait to see that. I hope for a dap from both of you
Katja, if you read this: Are you already back in L.A. in January? I've read on your website that you are on production tour there until the end of November. Seems that you spend more time in the States now, than in good old Germany
Once again Selena you make my day and it's on 4:14 my time in the am!!!! I first off want to thank Dion for his dedication to making such great and fun porn, it shows!! I then want to thank Katja and you Selena for stepping up and taking on this daunting challenge. I have total confidence you both can put on great scenes and we the viewer will get off to what you do for years to cum!! Now what would I like to see done, well here are a few things,hehe
1. Lots of double stuffing in your mouths with the cocks.
2. Lots of slow licks around the cockhead using sexy eye contact all the while.
3. Rimming to all their asses, ok guys you'll need to be clean!!!
4. Lot's of cowgirl for both girls in both variations as you each have fine booties!!!
5. A generous portion of POV footage as each suck cock as Mike John is shooting one bang I see this as a strong possibility!
6. Try to be as spontaneous as possible, let the girl direct what she wants done to her, so lots of dirty talk but again let it please be free flowing and not cliched driven. Both of you are so good at the dirty talk I know this won't be a problem.
7. Double anal, especially in cowgirl!! Don't kill yourselves trying to do this, it's just a request :)
8. Naturally lots of A2M, P2M incorportating more double stuff action in your mouths!!
The pops!!
1. Swallowing of course
2. Try for as many internal pops as possible, show it off swirling the spunk around before downing the jizz.
3. Take in a few loads before swallowing, no more than 3 I'd say don't want you to choke or spit some out!
Now one thing I'd love to see is for each of you to cum in after or just before the cum's done flying in the others scene for some awesome g/g french kissing, now if Dion makes this last one happen he's got a customer for life!!
I again want to thank both of you for this, Selena you are so forthcoming and generous with asking us for what we want to see you do. I for one am touched and wish you nothing but the best as you shoot this scene!!!
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Previous RLD gangbangs had 2 girls in 2 scenes, a dp and dpp scene and a double everything scene. So at least that is the minimal expectation for me and having both scenes be double everything would be an improvement.
One suggestion is a lot of planning and preshooting directing and once the camera is rolling, there are few to no breaks and only good camera shooting. The viewer then sees a complete gangbang with zero edits from the start and zero mistakes as well. I think that Mike is an excellent shootist and might be able to pull this off. What I am suggesting is a new style of shooting gangbang with a lot of advance planning so that there is no or little editing. Everything is shot perfectly seamless so that editing is unnecessary to repair the crappy mistakes. This takes out the laziness from the director. This means that all scenes, sex acts, etc. must be captured perfectly the first time and woodless stiffness men are automatically banned as male talents. The females must be well prepared so that all the double everythings work out right the first time. Any minor mistakes must also be left in the shoot completely intact. A dpp that turns out to be a regular dp is should be kept in.
Another them is the exploration of various interesting positions. Lately, many gbs are boring because the positions are predictable. There is a formula for shooting the scenes and everything is done by rote formula. We never see the double doggy dpp or dap, partly because they are very hard to shoot, and shooting them perfectly without editing makes the challenge much harder, but not impossible.
So Selena, are you up to the next challenge of doing double everything in every possible position ? Ditto for Katja .
There are 3 elements that make a GB film special (at least for me), and most of the GB flix fall far short of the mark. The great ones (like GBG34) feature:
1) Good looking girls (not a problem with you and Katja), dressed in very sexy clothing (that stays on for the GB, or at least most of it), with great makeup. Basically, attention to grooming detail.
2) Swallowing... lots of it. All of the loads. Showing it off. Taking the time. Allowing the scene to gel. Watch GBG34 since it is the best display of amazing cum swallowing ever filmed. If you could couple that up with some cum swapping (will both of you be present at each shooting), that would really kick it up another notch.
3) The technicals. Plenty of light. Good surroundings. Great camerawork. None of those awful edits. Lots of pans and zoom outs to show the complete scene. Take your time. Enjoy the moment, and make us know that you enjoy the moment. There needs to be a fluidity and continuity to the entire scene.
Wow, what a great New Year's gift to the fans of ADT!
What I would like to see (if you and Katja can please please please fulfill my requests - without injury of course) are:
1) Interracial with a host of white and black guys, but please get the biggest, longest, thickest guys you can possibly get.
2) Multiple blowjobs (similar to Evasive Angles 4X4 #2, you'll know what I mean when you see it) where the guys literally engulf your face with their cocks! And since it's a two dvd set, then longer blow job scenes.
3) Multiple cum shots during the scene, like No Cum Dodging Allowed where the guys can cum whenever and whereever they want, instead of just the end of the scene. You both will look gorgeous with cum all over your face and body while getting fucked, dp'd, etc.
4) Hot oil over everyone.
5) Bukakke style ending where both your faces are plastered with male spunk that we can't even recognize you.
6) Pile driver DP, DPP, DAP! Nuff said...
Dion, you do wonderful work! Selena and Katja, you are gorgeous! I look forward to watching this....
Sounds like a must by DVD. The cast of female talent is top notch.
I would like to see more tangable vocal content. Most gangbangs are just screaming and gagging. Obviously with 12 guys your mouths are gonna be pretty busy, but just a little more camera talk would be nice. Tell the guys how you want it or how it feels, talk about what you want to do to the dick thats looking you in the face.
Tit sex would be really nice to see. I'm a fan of your breasts especially Selena almost as much as the rest of you. It would be nice to see them put to better use than in most GBs.
my suggestion would be do what you both like best. If you like having 2 dicks up your bum, then by all means. But dont do it just on my account. I think there are too many multiple guy scenes, where the girls do things that really make them uncomfortable, and to me it wrecks the scene, since its quite obvous that the girl is just doing it because she is gettin paid for it, and not getting into it at all.
I know it greatly depends on the talent your working with, but Most gangbangs end up with the girls just waiting there for the pop. I would very much like to see the girl get the guy off, preferably with her mouth. There would be nothing hotter to me, to see you jerk and suck the guy off, and have the guys shoot while still in your mouth and you pulling back so they are cumming as your pulling your lips off them, cum splattering off the lips, and face, plus some gets in the mouth for a swallow.
Cant wait to see the film, hope you have fun doing it, cause I sure will watching it.
No couches, no assembly line maneuvers (like the really BORING RLD Gang Bang 2, which just went through all the rote positions and acts in sequence). Mix it up, burn the playbook, freestyle some stuff. And not a lot of dudes standing around jerking off the whole time -- get 'em out of the frame! Leave a lot of room for personality and humor.
Of course, if Mike and Jake are running the show I'm confident these will be can't-miss propositions -- not least because of whose in front of the camera.
How about splitting up the guys into two teams with 2 different themes, and they pass you back and forth every half hour or so? One set could be on a mattress on the floor, and the other could be a plastic tarp area where everyone is covered in lube and oil. You could be getting drilled on one set and yelling at the other team to get ready and do a better job. Or something like in a jail cell with 6 Guards and after they finished, they passed you to 6 prisoners... like a double gang band in a sense.
This will be a gangbang where black guys are welcome!!! LOL I am expecting some good DP's and don't see why we can't pull that combination off is Jake Malone would like to.As far as the standing DP - that is my favorite too. I will MAKE SURE we get that one in for me- I mean for you. :)I am sure the positions will not be a problem! As far as camera angles - I know they are going to have at least 3 people shooting camera so you will get your angles!I promise to take both black and white. As far as the guys, I gave Dion a list of guys before we finalized this movie. I am VERY curious to hear the requests for specific guys from the ADT crowd. My list had 24 guys on it and RLD is only letting me have 12. :)
Dion did promise to "work his magic" with some guys who usually refuse to do gangbangs, and I am going to PERSONALLY beg some of my favorite guys to do it even though they normally don't.
As soon as we have a firm guy list - I will update you. Wanna help influence the list?
I don't think anything will be blocking the action - but, how cool is this: Jake Malone is taking me shopping Saturday to pick out a KILLER outfit for this gangbang. I will be wearing something spectacular!I love my hair to be pulled and my ass to be slapped - you will be okay there. I am happy to do some swallowing for you - I will see what Jake has planned for cumshots. We will probably huddle up and plan something really cool.
This won't just be another boring gangbang. Dion is REALLY turning Jake Malone lose (and Mike John on Katjas, of course) to do something really cool and creative. And, trust me - Jake is SERIOUSLY twisted and creative. I hear he may be asking Mason to do some camera work with him - they are very good friends - and I would love to see Jake and Mason plotting gangbang ideas together.
Hmmm... Jake, we should set up a plotting dinner.
Almost everything there sounds totally cool, bono. The only thing I am not promising is DAP or DPP. But, I think your request list can get knocked off!We aren't actually shooting the same day, bono. So, we won't get any G/G in for the gangbang. But, I am doing a scene next week with Katja for the ATOGM line - I promise to do that for you there!I think you will be very happy with some of these position ideas Jake has been throwing at me. One idea he has is SO FREAKING COOL and I haven't seen it done before - which, is why I can't tell you what it is yet! We won't let you down here- promise.
I don't have alot on my request board but to echo what aybesea said some nice clothing. Lingerie please! Nylons, stuff that Jules has in his videos. See through shirts, bras, whatever. To please some that don't like lingerie take it off half way through the set. But please have sex for awhile with it on. Selena do you have any DVDs out they feature you with nylons or pantyhose that stay on during the sex?
You are hilarious!!! LOL I still haven't stopped laughing... :)
And, to think I as going to request you.... oh, well - I guess since I won't be able to fufill your requests, you will want me to ask someone else... Oh, well... lol
P.S. - We thought we had the 85 year-old man missing his right eye for you, but it turned out he was 89. Can you believe he lied about his age like that?
Really sexy shoes would be nice. I like latex-y fetish gothic vampire garb, too!
And not midgets, dwarves , Travis! Get with the program .
And banana pudding.
And as an orally fixated guy, I wouldn't mind seeing the ol' "double BJ" maneuver where two cocks are positioned like slabs of beef in a doubledecker sandwich, with the guys on their backs, and then the girl (Selena) fits them both in her mouth as though they were one cock. I guess that's "super-gay" coming from a viewer who can barely tolerate male ass-licking scenes, but if I had to go that way then that's the way to go. Traci Lords did quite an amazing scene like that in "The Grafenberg Spot" (Mitchell Bros., '85) with Harry Reems and Rick Savage as the lucky pole-sters, and I've never been able to get the image out of my mind. Of course, Traci was a tad underage at the time, so neither will I ever have another chance to see that scene. So, nostalgia rears its sleazy little head -- er, both of them!
I'm so happy to have Selena Silver to do this Gang Bang and to think to have Katja also,I'm thinking this could be one of the greatest Gang bangs ever.
I've had a couple meetings with Selena,not only do I find her to be Gorgeous,she happen's to be very Smart and Sweet,I enjoy spending time with her,boy would I like to no this gorgeous australian a little better,but of course the wife wouldn't like that.
I'm working hand and hand with Selena,and we have some great plans for you all,and we welcome all input.
Selena In most of the GB movies I've seen they have all of the cumshots at the very end so its bukkake time.with 12 guys there should be plenty of the ole goo left if you had 2 or three of the guys cum sooner.I would like to see those 2 or 3 give you a facial which you would leave on while giving a couple of the guys a nice deep rimjob. and let me say thanks, you make porn so much more fun. Thanks for taking our request
It'd be great to see you in swim gear, actually Selena. Get the cozzie on, if only to get it off.
A poll of my local porn-watching group seemed to produce the consensus that wacky dirty talk is needed. I personally really want to see you tell one of the fuckers (that's the technical term, I believe) to 'bowl you his flipper' or 'whip down the googly' and see what he makes of it. Other suggestions were:
'Slam my wombat you pervert.'
'Felch me a river, shweetheart.'
and a Wallaby-world-cup-grand-final-night-special
'I'm the fucking try line, cross me baby, put the fucking balls in if you can.'
There was a suggestion made by one of the three females in the porn watching group that if you are involved in some arse-eating in the gangbang, you ask from some tomato sauce to spruce up the flavour, but somehow this strikes me as a little too silly. Still, it's my responsibility to officially request it.
There was also some discussion that there's not enough successful casual banter in a group scene on porn film. This I suppose is true, although at college all the gangbangs were drowned out by guys going 'Fuckin' yeah! Dougo's shooting for gold.' Still, now with us all twenty-somethings, there's a bit more joking and light-heartedness interspersed with intense, lustful ululating. Brian Pumper seems to be a funny guy, so how about a bit of playing off of each other personality-wise, before playing each other, genitalia-wise.
The vampire gear would probably work as you could successfully pull off the hot Goth look, but what about body chocolate? Hey, worked for Deborah Conway.
However, on further discussion, the swimsuit won. Picture this: Selena in the swimming pool with Katja in some synchronised swimming action. She rises gently out of the water, upside down, and spreads her legs. This scene is then mimicked as Pumper holds her upside down, while Brandon and Erik hold her spread legs for some licking action while RLD's two new boys, Tony T and Max Black, lend her some biltong sticks to chew on. Then, all the guys hold her mid-air for a demonstration of her breastroke, before Erik and co. take turns fucking her in mid-air. Now Katja fucked while wearing a pair of flippers - great idea.
There were other suggestions made for gangbang set pieces - they included, in increasing order of absurdity:
* a bunch of lawn bowls boys gangbanging the girls that make the lamingtons * a mock-up of Backyard Blitz, where the guys turn up at Selena and Katjin's to renovate their asses in an afternoon * the men in an orchestra practising for a gig (with Erik Everhard as conductor), and where Katja plays the electric dildo and Selena the electric triangle. * Fucking on a desert bar, so that soft serve and cock serve become one * Erik, Brian and co. dress up as Penguins and Selena and Katja play Antarctic biologists * Selena and Katja play Greenpeace protestors that strap themselves to big pieces of wood, and at the beginning are both tied up around Tony T's cock. * Tony T plays a blind man who uses his dick for a searching-stick. He is told he is given a 'Guide Dog' which turns out to be Selena. They go for a walk and she misleads him to another dog, Katja, whose ass she sniffs and licks. Katja's owner is having Katja clean his searching-stick with her mouth, so Selena joins in. Some passing samaritans turn up and help discipline the dogs. The girls get to wear collars, and hopefully at some point in the scene, get to hump Max Black dressed as a fire hydrant.
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT the thing we all agreed is most needed is a recreation of that classic scene from BUTTBANGED HITCHHIKING WHORES where Layla Jade and the other girl have their butts pushed up against each other and are gaping like snake-holes while Lex decides which one to plunge next. It's also the scene depicted on the poster that comes with that DVD. It is a sadly underused scene in porn and has a wonderful visual aesthetic. (Assthetic?) If it's you and Katja in the same scene, this needs to happen. It reminds me a little of those war movies where guys with their backs to each other ward off their attackers. Y'know, it shares that type of camaraderie.
Works for me. You will be held to this promise, Selena :-) I know I'm eager to see you do a three on 1 with Justin Slayer, J. Monty, and Boz -- The Black Pipelayers.
We went shoping Saturday and we found the PERFECT gangbang outfit. I am VERY excited about it. :)
In fact, I liked it so much I didn't let Jake Malone buy it (which he as going to per Dion's generosity), but I wanted to keep it instead of just getting to wear it for one shoot- I bought it myself.
Wait till you see it! I think I am going to make a lot of you happy with our choice. :)
BTW, SKRONKER - amazing shoes and fetish wear.... hmmm... sounds like what we got!
Edited by - SelenaSilver on 11/24/2003 11:36:41 PM
Sith, This seems to be a very popular request right now. If Jake will let me I will do this for you in the gangbang, but I will also tip you off to a couple of movies I did that in per our ADT requests:
Double Impact 2 for Pat Myne of Metro's Fusxion (Swallowed 2 loads without ever closing my mouth)
The Pussy is Not Enough 2 for Manuel Ferrara/Steve Holmes of Platinum X Pictures (Swallowed 1 load without ever closing my mouth)
I'd love to make a few suggestions, but after watching both Selena and Katja in Joey's New Girls 3 tonight I'm guessing it's going to take at least a week to get any blood flowing above my shoulders!
Hehe I hear you Astro!!! Selena and Katja, wow I am so glad both are doing this scene, just another example of how great this site is!! Thanks to Dion, Katja, and Selena!!
i would like to see guy cum when girl stay on deepthroat with cock all in her mouth. I've never seen that before. I hope you understeand, my english is so bad.
Wow! What a wealth of fantastic ideas and suggestions. This is going to be really fun! I had the great pleasure of shooting Selena TWICE last week, and she is every bit the luscious, lewd sex-bomb that I expected. First in a very aggressive scene for Throat Gaggers #6. Tony T and I used that beautiful face as a fuckhole/sperm depository and Selena gleefully submitted. She is fearless! Then yesterday I shot her with Katja Kassin in the first scene of A.T.O.G.M. and also shot the box cover of the upcoming gang bang. Both girls looked sensational for the boxcover and went crazy in the scene. I don't know which was hotter, Selena eating cum out of Katja's ass or Katja eating cum out of Selena's ass. You be the judge. Selena, like Katja, is a true sexual adventuress.She is great to work with and has lots of very nasty ideas of her own so this gang bang is going to be incredible! Thanks for all the input and we will try to include everyones favorite perversion,( the gang bang will have to go on for hours to get all of your suggestions in!)
And I know you are just gonna hate that, Jake! By the way, Throat Gaggers 5 was almost too much for me to bear. Sweet Jesus, man! The scenes with Cynara and Jynx alone were enough to wear the leather off a riding crop! (Or something). Let alone the amount of vigorous self-abuse they inspired. You really "get into" the heads of your performers (flesh pawns), and make everything pervy and demented without veering into negativity, which I appreciate.
1. How about after you get gangbanged, one of the guys or the director stamps your forehead with a Red Light District stamp. (Like those stamps they have at the library when you check out books.) I think it saying Red Light District would be an awesome touch. Imagine the camera fading out, the girls just freshly gang banged, cum dripping off their chin, everyone including the viewers just completely spent, and a Red Light District stamp on the girls' forehead. That would be a cool touch. The director could say something along the lines of "you've just been gang banged" and stamp your forehead or ask you "who you did a gang bang for", you answer and he stamps your forehead. Everyone applauding and laughing. Camera fades with the Red Light District stamp on your head.
2. And of course, some serious cum gargling and swooshing cum in your mouths.
3. And a spoon to scoop up the leftover cum on your chest/face to feed to you. Scoop it all up and feed it to the girls.
4. Maybe for the cumshot, you could have the guys form a line, all 12 lined up behind eachother. They could each take turns stepping up and cumming in your mouths while you kneel on the floor. After you swallow some, you could say next!
5. I really liked the idea someone mentioned of having two teams of guys and them passing the girl back and forth, basically taking turns with her.
Can't wait. You two are both amazing. It will make for a superb DVD.
I forgot one thing. How about after the scene and probably for boner footage, you could have the girls go up to random people in the streets, malls, parks, drive thru windows, etc and tell them that they just got gang banged by 12 guys. Then show them the boxcover if it is ready by then or a picture from the shoot. I really liked how Angel Long went into the other room after her 7 The Hard Way scene and told the other girls they have to fuck 7 guys. Something like this would be a welcomed addition for fans I'm sure.
dude.. must i remind you she's not a piece of meat. thats all i got to say. thanks you and happy thanksgiving.. just kidding. hey selena, if your out there, can i request that you do what shyla did in gbg 34. she held like around 15 loads in her mouth all at once, and swallowd it at once! WOW! she even let 4 more guys give her there load afterwords.
Selena: Why do not you ask them to have your before and after picture after gangbang. Then have extra material where you talk about the gangbang what u like and what u found not so good. Before and after picture: one before you begin your gangbang then after one with your face close up and then after similarly one with your butthole close before and after. Also about splitting in your mouth and you do the same. While licking guys asshole you can also insert your finger in it. I would love to see all this things
If I can make one humble request, then it would be: lots of gaping
Dear Selena, I've actually never seen you perform yet (I know, shame on me ), but I stumbled across your yahoo-group and I really love your caring for your fans!! I'm really looking forward to this gangbang, I guess it will become the best porn performance of all times Anyway, you've got another happy fan now
I think somen one mentioned this before, but I'd like to say it again. Each guy did 3 or more pops in No cum Dodging Allowed so I think if you get the right guys here, we can get the facial at the end even if guys randomly cum on the girls throughout the scene. There are some Japanese Bukkake vids out there where The female performer rides cowgirl as other men cum all over her face and tits, her body just glistens from all of the jizz and looks awesome as she continues to fuck.
Seeing what I have you, Selena, and Katja, I know this is going to be a tough one to beat.
There is going to be TON of extra footage - remember this is going to be a 2 DVD release with an ENTIRE DVD dedicated to me and an ENTIRE DVD for Katja. I am shooting the whole day just BTS footage the day before the bang.
They are going to put me in a spa and get me "ready" for the bang, interview me the night before, etc.
I am SURE we will film some footage afterwards as well with me talking about it, etc.
Of course, that is up to Jake Malone - but I think you will get your wish. :)