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horny_1
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Posted - Sep 2 2001 : 2:33PM
Anyone have an opinion on which Rocco DVD titles are the best.

Maybe like a top 5 list.

Seems like all his stuff is really good, just want to start my collection with the best ones.

Thx

Edited by - horny_1 on Sep 3 2001

Hardz
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Posted - Sep 4 2001 : 4:44PM
in no particular order:

1. When Rocco Meats Kelly 2
2. Animal Trainer 4
3. True Anal (french dvd of true anal stories pt6)
4. Animal Trainer 2
5. Rocco`s Way to Love

All contain hard anal and intense oral.

(Nacho Vidal needs more recognition for holding his own against Rocco in all their movies.)

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Posted - Sep 4 2001 : 5:31PM
In which movie does Nacho hold his own against Rocco? Now that's something I'd like to see

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Posted - Sep 4 2001 : 5:56PM
Have you seen the scene between Nacho/Rocco/Kelly/and some girl who`s name I can`t remember right now, in, WHEN ROCCO MEATS KELLY 2 ?

Steph- You might also want to see Rocco`s Reverse Gang Bang.

If these two guys had a F**k till you drop contest, I`d put money on Nacho

dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 4 2001 : 9:34PM
If you want to see Rocco do what I've never seen anyone else do on film to the same degree -- and that is TOTAL, amazing levels of utter male sexual dominance, watch Rocco: Animal Trainer 4.

You may think it’s a weird title before you see it. Or rather pretentious. Watch it. You'll know why he called it that.

(It's not that Rocco is saying that women are "just animals". It's that he's going to utterly bring out the animal, and train up the animal, in certain especially adventurous, limits pushing women. It is a sight to see!! Scenes one and three I'm talking about. (Scene two doesn't have Rocco in it. Scene 2 is a good, but not Rocco at his best level of intensity, gonzo gang bang scene staring Nacho.)

Also, Rocco starts where the woman's at. He nearly always does that, at least in his more recent stuff. He's very sensitive to building HER up, not just following his own rigid packaged agenda. He just builds and builds … and trains and trains.

Scene three in real particular. (Although scene one with blonde Amanda Angel's incredible deep throat choking BJ's is incredible. Well raven haired Catherine Count's desperate f*ucking is incredible also.)

Little Sylvia in scene three just gets out of her mind. This was not acting. This is a rape fantasy in gear -- in amazing gear. (Though it doesn't start out as rape and never really is. It's just REAL edgie animal.) She was NOT acting. No one's that good. She was BECOMING, at least for the duration. "You're so nasty, really nasty girl" Rocco loves to say. She sure gets that way -- having started out a cute little sex kitten.

The way she is when he just completely stops cold for a while, and gets up to just watch her, and pay a little attention to the other girl (Jennie) is maybe actually the most wonderful. She growls. She snaps. She spits at him, angry, angry. She slaps him. Is she mad because of how rough he's been with her, spit into her mouth, coaked, pulled hair, splapped, and more -- and loved it when she did it back to him? (Realize she's had at least three earth shattering orgasms during a sustained 30 minute incredible all around the room fucking already.)

"What's the matter baby", Rocco says gently. "You want more baby? You need more? More?? What about Jennie. Shouldn't we be nice to her", he says as be kisses and plays with Jennie's tits a bit. Well, Sylvia gets more. A LOT more.

There should be a phrase in the lexicon: "she got Animal Trainer fucked". (Or better, I wanna get ...Or you're gonna get...) Well, there is, in certain circles.

For archetypal, fully developed Rocco, see Animal Trainer 4.

It should be on the viewing list of every 12th grade sex education class in the good 'ole US of A.

Edited by - dexplorer on Sep 4 2001

 
dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 5 2001 : 12:13AM
How about doing a review? Even if it's only a short one?

Nobody's reviewed that yet. Not here. Not on iafd.com. (Actually, I can't even find it listed there, even when I use the various tricks that usually work re: name fragments and variations).

At least say whether you think it is high, middle, or low end Rocco here. If you wouldn't a mind.


Edited by - dexplorer on Sep 6 2001

Speelie
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Posted - Sep 5 2001 : 1:29AM
I agree, Sylvia Sun is an amazing performer. She does a lot of work in Europe because the directors (Rocco, Christoph, LeCastel) recognize that she is full of animal passion. She and Jenny are back in Rocco's Initiations 3, in a scene also including lovely Sophie Angel. After the opening part, Sophie is in the background as Sylvia and Jenny get fucked raw, giving as good as they get. You can see the lust in their eyes as the action gets heavy, even though it is not quite as intense as in the Animal Trainer 4 scene.
For those who enjoyed Amanda Angel and Catherine Count in Animal Trainer 4, they are back with Nacho and then Rocco in Rocco's Way to Love for more sex of extreme intensity. Amanda plays a slave in the scene, and practices her patented deep throat on both guys. Catherine takes deep anal, slaps Rocco in the face, spits back in his face, and probes his ass with her fingers. The action is fully as good as in AT4. This sort of stuff tends to ruin the watcher for other movies, it is so good few other releases can compare.
As to the reverse gangbang, I have seen the VHS, and will have the DVD soon (it will be a while before I have time for a review). Don't associate the movie with the term "gangbang" or you will be disappointed. The movie is really two scenes, Nacho with a bunch of A list Hungarians and then Rocco with B+ list Czechs. Basically, the girls play with each other, then get individually oralled by the guy, then get individually vag fucked, then get individually analled. The action isn't real intense, but I enjoyed the heck out of the movie simply as a non-stop parade of beautiful women. It is also fun to see which women are into the sex, and which ones hang back trying to do as little as possible.
Sylvia Sun, not surprisingly, dominates the Hungarian action. When petite Mary (True Anal Stories 14, another of Rocco's best) tries to be the first to ride Nacho anally, Sylvia pushes her away and takes the ride for herself. Previously, Rita Faltoyano rode Nacho very sexily and aggressively, like a predator. Krisztina Bella is constantly joining the action, to lick or suck whatever she can reach, and Mary is the same way. Henriette Blonde, on the other hand, is mostly in the background, which makes sense because she never seems into her sex scenes. Mallory (Hey Babe Nice Tits, Euro Hardball 13) has some good moments (maybe a preview of Animal Trainer 6, due out tomorrow?), and Hannah (cover girl, Assman 15 and Debauchery 8) has a good single one.
Rocco spends most of his scene with Monica Sweetheart, while Laura Angel directs the action. Reapley (Euro Hardball 11, Big Natural Tits 1) gets some good attention too, along with giant hootered Diane (Big Natural Tits 1, True Anal Stories 10, Animal Trainer 2). I liked the Hungarian part better, most of my favorites were there.
As I indicated above, I highly recommend True Anal Stories 14 to all Rocco fans, I hope this piece helped.

dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 5 2001 : 3:33PM
Speelie:
Sure did. True Anal Stories 14 is on the list. And I've been wanting to see Monica Sweetheart in something, since I've been hearing about her. Cool.

Love your rocco reviews over in the review section BTW. You're the definitive Rocco reviewer on ADT so far as I'm concerned!! (Not that some others don't add something too, but with Rocco, you da mannn. <gg>)

Don't suppose you've seen LeCastel's "Matador 5" with Monica Sweetheart and Kamila in it have you? It looks interesting.

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Posted - Sep 6 2001 : 9:28AM
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Posted - Sep 6 2001 : 9:34AM
Thanks, Gabriel - I was starting to think my delivery was way off :)
Speelie
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Posted - Sep 6 2001 : 3:35PM
Thanks for the kind word, dexplorer, I'm glad you enjoyed the reviews. I also want to give a nod to Gabriel Nine, who has shown here and on RAME that (besides having a good appreciation of Steph's jokes ;-)) he has a good understanding of the Euro chick type of flick.
Some time ago I got sick of the reviews (mainly on commercial sites) that say for the cast, "...and a bunch of Euro whores you've never seen before and will never see again." I started to wonder why I WAS seeing them again, and I realized I wanted to track down certain ones specifically to see them again. So I try to let people know that if they like an actress in one movie, they can find her again in whatever other titles.
As to The Matador 5, I have seen the VHS and have the DVD on the way to me. Monika is quite good in her scene with LeCastel and Robert Rosenberg, while Lea DeMae has a freat one on one with LeCastel as his secretary (the credits are screwed up on the VHS, with a dark haired girl credited as Lea, but I assume that will be corrected on the DVD, Private is good about that sort of thing with their DVDs). Venus has a pretty good scene too, though I forget the specifics. All three women are also in LeCastel's Assman 12, which must have been shot about the same time. I think I like Assman 12 better, but it has been a while since I viewed Matador 5, so we'll see what I think now.
BTW, it was shot circa the autumn of 1999, when Monika was shortly past her 18th birthday, but she looks so glamorous you'd guess she was 21 or so. LeCastel makes no attempt to play up the barely legal aspect, and I'm glad he took that route, it makes the classy impression she gives seem stronger. It almost seemed like an insult when she was in the same movie with American trailer park trash for Bring'Um Young #4.
Rocco gives Monika a good workout in the Reverse Gangbang, I can only guess it gets better in Animal Trainer 6, which should be in my greedy hands in another week or so.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Sep 6 2001 : 5:16PM
Each of the outside bukkakes is cut down quite a bit from the Italian version.
dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 6 2001 : 5:37PM
I strikes me as one of the truly great tragedies of our time Tricia, that you never did a scene with Rocco, before moving to the other side of the camera.

Edited by - dexplorer on Sep 6 2001

Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Sep 7 2001 : 12:01PM
Yeah, I totally agree with you here, Speelie(I think I know which site you mean: begins with "J"), and may I continue the mutual admiration by saying that I think you do a grand job on ID'ing the girls.
I just wish I had been paying more attention for longer, it would make it a hell of a lot easier now. It would also help if the producers would be consistent with credits, and the girls would insist on one name only.
Back to the point, I also found certain reviewers also had this totally disparaging, and slightly xenophobic, attitude towards these girls who go such a long way towards making Rocco or Christoph Clark's movies so watchable.

I'm part way through watching True Anal Stories 13, and again we find several girls with great personality who really piss all over that often repeated, and lazy, myth that "Euro girls just lie back and don't respond" and so on.

Speelie
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Posted - Sep 8 2001 : 12:30PM
Good point, when people complain about ""Euro girls who just lie there..." they are probably watching the wrong movies (Pick Up Lines, for example).
Good review on TAS 13, and I just have one comment. Rocco sometimes screws up his credits (TAS 14 is a prime example), and the girl with glasses credited as "Katy" is probably meant to be "Sara" since that is her usual name. You are correct, she is Assman 12, in a scene with Mika. Both women also appear in separate scenes in Rocco Ravishes Prague 2, and again in separate scenes in Killer Pussy 3. Sara works a LOT, she's in The Matador 3, German Cherry Poppers 5, and a bunch of other titles I don't recall. I like her quite a bit, since she is cute in a plain way, but really lights up the screen when she gets going, having all kinds of fun with the guys she gets paired with.
You have me thinking of her now, and she has a great moment in RRP2, when Rocco and Titof are analling her and two other cuties. She's on her knees with Rocco up her butt, and suddenly he pulls out and staggers several steps away. "What the hell are you doing?" Gabriel Zero asks from behind the camera. "You are wicked, wicked girl..." Rocco tells her, pointing with his finger for emphasis. She flashes Rocco and the camera with an evil grin. It seems she was clenching her sphincter muscle (and from her scenes, she obviously has total control of it) so tightly that Rocco almost shot his load, ending his role in the scene. That little interlude had me laughing out loud, displays of personality such as that are what make Rocco's movies fun. Too bad RRP2 is a long way from DVD release...
 
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Sep 9 2001 : 6:06PM
Thank you!!!
I VERY often regret saying no to working with Rocco back in 1996 when he was here in the States shooting a few scenes. I was young and naive and afraid. Today, it's a different story. I would probably be begging Rocco to be as hard on me as I've ever seen him be.
However, not working with him has one benefit that I can think of - I can watch him perform and truly fantasize about him. Because I've realized that there were some actors I used to fantasize about, and then after I worked with them, watching their scenes didn't seem so exciting any more. I mean, I was able to remember what it felt like to be with them, but a fantasy is a wonderful thing.

Anyway, I often DO fantasize about a day when it might be possible for me to be with Rocco (with or without a camera!) Also Nacho, Lexington, and Joel Lawrence and Dillon Day. I just hope that day will be a possibility before I'm too old!

Edited by - tricia_devereaux on Sep 9 2001

dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 9 2001 : 7:09PM
You're such a hot number Tricia!

Yeah I sure hope so too. Seems like a real possibility. Progress seems to be accelerating in that area.

BTW, would John be jealous?

Edited by - dexplorer on Sep 10 2001

dexplorer
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Posted - Sep 9 2001 : 7:17PM
I just saw "Rocco's Way to Love" in the last few days. Wow!!!

Maybe even more intense than Animal Trainer 4. Amazing stuff.

Definitely put it on your list Horny-1.

But definitely don't see it first. Not just because it's so intense. Also because you won't fully appreciate it seening it first. You're also likely to misunderstand some things seeing it first. It's presented as though we are walking in on an ongoing scene. All the girls -- or anyway the core group -- are presented as knowing Rocco well by then and by reputation. You need to know him already also.

I'd recommend first seeing something like Rocco's Initiations 3

Then Animal Trainer 4

Then Rocco's Way to Love.

(Well I haven't seen AT 5 or AT 6, which JUST came out and no one's reviewed anywhere yet. But I'm about to order them.)

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 3:08AM
Not at all. He's not the jealous one in the relationship. Actually, if it ever did happen on camera, I would want it to be for a feature for John, because I prefer his features.
Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 6:03AM
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Kafka indirectly pulled me up on that one on a review of Hardball 7 that I posted on RAME. I liked her, she was fun but you could quickly tell she was way more experienced than they were intially pretending! Seems like she has indeed done a lot of stuff. I was actually wondering if she is one of several Rocco girls who seem to be in a bisexual movie called "Lust Ohne Limit" (in the German version)- it was featured on Jaded lately, if you know the one I mean. She appears to be a broad-minded young lady!

Incidentally, I also said in my review that the Polish girl Agatha (the one with the very hairy pussy, so hairy that, in the extra footage,Hakan decides to trim it) doesn't do anal, but she does in the extra clips. The extra footage on TAS 13 is pretty substantial, and though it is not one of the absolute best Rocco movies, I would say it is very good value for money indeed, if anyone wants to pick it up.

Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 6:09AM
Seeing as we're talking about confusion over credits, and Tricia just happens to be reading this little thread, is it possible for me to make a polite request, Tricia, if you can do anything about it, to straighten out the credits on Evil Angel movies, or more specifically Christoph Clark and Rocco movies? I know it seems pretty trivial, but it makes it easier to pick out movies that you might want to buy, especially when it comes to European girls! Thanks!
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Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 10:43PM
We've been doing the best we can. Unfortunately, these girls change their names A LOT. Also, our model releases are usually in English, and some of the newer girls don't understand that they need a stage name.
In Rocco's Reverse Gangbang, Rocco told all the girls ahead of time that he would be asking them their name in the movie and for them to use their stage name. About HALF of them did it OK.

Another drawback is that I spend so much time with Evil Angel movies, that I don't see as big a variety as, say, you or Speelie. So I don't have the advantage of knowing that for some reason, Rita Foltanayo was telling everyone but us to use Rita, and telling us to use Daniella. Go figure.

Sorry if I go on and on, but this is kind of a sore subject for me. I sometimes spend hours on one of Rocco's or Christoph's movies trying to figure out who is who. And the opening credits on several of Rocco's recent DVDs have been re-edited by me because the names were wrong even on that.

We've asked Rocco and Christoph to explain to the girls that here in the States, keeping one name is important, and to try to get that name right. It seems like getting the names consistent should be a piece of cake, but it's not as easy as it seems.

Speelie
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Posted - Sep 11 2001 : 2:59AM
I've worked for years with World War 2 German photos. I often get them with no caption, and I need to figure out which unit is being shown, and who various personalities are. After a while, it becomes sort of a game. Am I smart/clever enough to unlock the secret and figure it all out?
IDing the Euro babes is sort of the same thing. It would be nice if they (or someone) could make up their minds on a name, but it keeps me mentally entertained sorting out who is whom. The biggest recent challenge has been establishing that "Sandra" in Beautiful Girls 1 is the same as "Suzy Sweet" in Hey Babe, Nice Tits and Euro Hardball 13, but is not the same as "Suzy Sweet" in Big Natural Tits (that girl is actually "Lola" from Fresh Meat 11 and some non-EA movies).
What I have noticed recently is that Private pays a lot of attention when girls become popular in Evil Angel movies, and so Private will adjust the names on DVDs to match the ones that become well known via EA. For example, "Alexa" is now Krisztina Bella, after John Leslie made her popular under the latter name. And while Pierre Woodman calls an actress Christiane De Nerville, the report to Riviera uses her EA Christoph Clark name of Nannes Beaumont. "Yvette" in the VHS of House of Love became "Anita Black" on the DVD after she used that name working in Euro Angels 25 and Rocco's Initiations 3.
So don't feel too bad Tricia, in at least one way, when it comes to this issue, EA is setting a standard which others are trying to match. And of course you also set the standard in many other ways (as lots of reviews testify).
horny_1
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Posted - Sep 11 2001 : 3:24AM
Thanks sooo much for all the replies folks.

Actually True Anal Stories 14 was the first, followed by AT4.

All I can say is my wife and I found what we have been looking for. Now if I can just find somewhere to pawn off my old Vivid VHS heheh ;)

Actually we have a variety of different flicks from different studios, but none come close to the antics from Evil Angel (Rocco in particular).

Anyone got any info on Buttman and Rocco go to Montreal. Looks like this may be next. :)

Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Sep 11 2001 : 7:09AM
No need to apologise Tricia. I am sorry - I was not trying to wind you up about this, I really appreciate the great job you guys are doing right now, I am seeing one fantastic movie after another from Evil Angel. I know you do your very best and that's all we can ask. Thanks.



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