"For example, the image of a chair. How does one know that it is a chair?"
Did you know that Roxy Jezel has a degree in philosophy and ethics, with a specialization in political philosophy? No kidding. Watch her expound on the stuff she studied in this video interview. By the way, she's naked.
I recently realized that Roxy is an insanely cute piece of ass and an awesome perfomer. What I didn't know is that she's also well-read, articulate, charismatic, and funny. Totally doesn't fit the porn girl stereotype. She should be in grad school or something.
I love how she describes her Aristotle studies as "this bo-ring, bo-ring thing" and gives "big ups" to east end London.
Edited by - XrickyromaX on Dec 18 2005
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Lost Horizon Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 18 2005 : 7:39PM
Some random thoughts:
I'd be more impressed if she hadn't entirely confused Plato (proponent of the theory of forms) and Aristotle (rejected Plato's theory of forms).
I do like when the guy asks her "What is your concept of God?" I'd love to see a documentary made up entirely of porn professionals' responses to that question.
I didn't know she was from Hackney, though. I like that. My father, grandfather and great-grandfather came from Hackney.
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nietzsche Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 18 2005 : 8:56PM
But can Roxy Jezel discuss Nietzsche? That's the deal breaker for me.
I try to stay away from certain discussions. I might talk about my opinions in a private environment but I don't think that the world needs to know what some porn starlet has to say about religion, politics, abortion, death penalty and hard topics like that... I show my tits every day and I get fucked in the ass on film, it just feels kind of inappropriate for me.
There was this one bit that Dave Chappelle did in one of his standup comedy routine where he would answer the question, "So who did you vote for?" with a "Whoaa whoaa whoaa don't you think that's personal? So I fucked my wife in the ass last night..."
Actually, Dave was making a joke about white people being secretive about their politics. He said black people will tell you, loudly, how they're gonna vote. Compared to white people, who tend to act like it's very personal information. He thinks it's funny that some guy around the water cooler will tell you about the sex he had last night, but won't tell you how he voted.
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Posted - Dec 19 2005 : 8:22PM
I hear wedding bells...and they belong to me and Katja Kassin.
Yeah, I can't get into philosophy either. I'd sure as hell never pay to study it. But for some reason I think it's attractive when girls are way into intellectual stuff. Especially USELESS intellectual stuff that I'd never waste time on. I wonder if Roxy plays Sudoku?
Ever wondered why there is a number of people with humanities degrees involved in porn? Roxy offers the reason right there: those degrees don't lead to jobs which make good money.
And yeah, she confused Aristotle and Plato a bit, not that is a big deal.
Sorry, can't trust you on that one! Being a Porno Consumer I can only speak for myself, and yes, I am interested in how book smart a girl is. I have a special liking for girls that have a real nasty sexual side and a more or less opposing 'intelectual side'.
I have a preference for rough scenes with lots of domination/submission in them, but the biggest turn off is when I start wondering whether the girl involved is doing these kind of things out of free will.. if I start suspecting she is forced to do a scene like this, fun is over for me..
If a girl shows some intelligence (NO, not DURING the scene!! ;)) for me, that's an indication she's well able to set her boundaries. At least, that's what I like to think..
So yes, girls like Roxy Jezel and others like Dana Vespoli, Katja Kassin, Taryn Thomas, Gauge, etc. etc. do give me the impression that you can have conversations with them about other things than porn as well.. I think of that as a big 'extra' apart from the fact that all the above mentioned are also gorgeous and great performers.
No, I'm not particularly interested in hearing how smart they are while they're getting fucked.. But I'm sure their mommies told them that it's really rude to quote Wittgenstein with a cock in your mouth!
Lets not confuse a consumers need to know more about the Girl there watching get hammered with knowing if she is astute in Calculus or knows about Einstiens Theory of Relitivety.I must contend that the true Porn Consumer is more interested in what the inside of her Anal Cavity looks like Gapped open;instead of if she knows how an Adam Bomb is made. Example,Ed Powers made it a note to always ask the Girls where they came from,how old they were when they first had sex,what were there hobbies,what have you.This broad questioning is the extent of the majority of Hardcore consumers interest,then they are pressing the DVD remote to get to Anal as fast as they can. Any further indepth questioning about her personal philosophy,academia,and scholastic trivia belongs for the sucker of Love that enjoys stimulating conversation at Starbucks and actually wants a date with the Whore.Iam still in contention that knowing too much from a majority standpiont of how smart the Girl is can be a wood killer for most guys with Lube in there hands. Yes! You know 2 plus 2 sweetie,but do you know how to Spread your Ass and take 6 Cum Loads??? This is the what these raincoaters want to really know.
@T.L. Tycoon "..the true Porn Consumer.." Iam still in contention that knowing too much from a majority standpiont of how smart the Girl is can be a wood killer for most guys with Lube in there hands
Like I said, I was strictly speaking for myself, and I do consider myself 'a true Porn Consumer'. I don't care much about the (assumed) opinion of the majority.
Second, I haven't seen the Roxy Jezel interview in the opening post (link doesn't work), so I don't know what the interview was exactly about, or what the setting was. I was speaking in general: and yes I like it when I know that a girl is nog only sexy, but also inteligent/educated or whatever, and no, not because I'd like to date her in real life..
I just like girls that are smart mouthed, intelligent on one side, and yet at another moment turn into total sluts that are willing to do the most degrading things. It's the contradiction between the two that turns me on. That's what I like! Sue me!
If that's a woodkiller for others: too bad! I may well be a minority, I don't really care.
The Grammer aint the best,but the point is well made. Porno whackers could give a damn about a porn girls political views and academic prowess;while watching a XXX smut video. He's gonna want to see something to build up his Nutt,so he can let one off. This is not saying that there is no value in these girls or anybody getting an education and showing what they know to others. ADT forum and conversation with any said indivisual is the perfect venue for this.All Im saying is that the majority of Porn goers could care less how educated anyone is while stroking his sausage to a Gonzo release.
I think it's a big turn on for a lot of guys watching a smart chick doing nasty stuff but I do agree that it's not appropriate to have a whole political discussion with a dick up your ass. you find out if someone is rather smart or not talking about daily life stuff. Just because somebody comes up with a Nietzsche quote doesn't mean they are smart. I went to University with tons of people like that who just memorized a few quotes from highly educated philosophers to prove their smartness where they couldn't even read the paper.
I agree. Quite a few porn watchers could indeed care less. I, for one, like them there smart looking chicks with their high falutin' manners. I can't be the only one. Otherwise Kick Ass Pictures would hardly have bothered making those "brainy hottie" vignettes in their "Specs Appeal" line.
I enjoyed the interview with Roxy and with the majority of posters here. She is quite intelligent Not withstanding, I have one question to ask for you all.
As you observe a scene involving Roxy in the furture and masterbate in the process, will the thoughts of Plato, Aristotle, and other philisophical perspectives enter into the depths of your immagination simultaniously? It just seems quite wierd attempting to bust a nut while picturing the immage of Plato and the Republic circulating in my mind as Roxy is in a reverse cowgirl position. My mind would be so messed up, I would mistate her comments within a given scene for a dialogue between two mid-evil scholars. For the time being, I will try to block this download out of my mind and return to the Roxy that we all have come accustomed to.
"Two Shades above the rest", - The Secluded Paradyme.
It ain't a link, ya doofus! It's a web address. Cut n' paste it into your browser's address window and your default player will start playing the .wmv file.
Anyway, if you're on some messed up ancient system or something and can't view it, it's a video of Roxy (naked except for red stockings) smoking a cigarette and talking to a man and a woman who are behind the camera.
First they ask her about her porn career and she talks about her butt and getting some award for giving head. "Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh. Apparently, I sound like frog."
She mentions attending "uni," they ask her what she studied, and they start having this heady philosophical discussion. She name checks Descartes, Aristotle, Plato. Talks about epistemology, the existence of God, the theory of forms, the myth of the cave, the mind/body connection.
Then they ask her about her background, her family, why she got into porn, her financial plans.
They ask her the last book she read, which was the Satanic Bible. She says she's not a Satanist, but she appreciates the idea of indulging your desires. And she thinks the Christian "turn the other cheek" ideal is ridiculous.
Also, she says she had three orgasms in her scene for the website they're advertising.
The guy behind the camera says what I'm thinking: "Wow... what an interesting person you are."
I'm the "guy behind the camera" in the Roxy Jezel interview. Was checking my stats and noticed links from this forum. Thought I'd drop by.
It's really cool all the interest shown here. I respect all the opinions (hats off to Lost Horizon by the way), the likes and dislikes.
I interview the girls because my members seem to like it. If I don't know anything about the model, I ask typical stuff like turnons and turnoffs, first time they had sex, and the Barbara Walters questions like, "does your family know what you do?"
If they mention something interesting during the shoot, I follow up during the interview. I always do the interview after the sex for various reasons. One, we're all a bit more relaxed, and two I can clear up some things, like, Nadia Hilton had never done a "restraint" scene before, and I wanted to make it clear in the interview that it was voluntary, that she was unharmed after the shoot, that she advocates safe sex, etc.
With Roxy, she mentioned during the shoot that she had a degree in philosophy, and I thought that rated a pretty high reading on the weirdometer, not that Roxy is weird, just that is was peculiar to meet a porn star who was into philosophy, so just on impulse I went that way in the interview.
And, yeah, have to agree it would not be a turnon to discuss the meaning of reality when the ol' boner thing is going on, but, you know, boners don't last forever and it's always nice to have someone you can relate to with both heads. So, yeah, the interview was after the analingus, the restraints, the forced orgasms, the big A toys. The woman in the background talking is Isis Love. She's the Dom who worked Roxy over during the shoot.
In closing, I must say, wow, what an interesting forum you are :-) Thanks XrickyromaX for the thread and the summary. And, if you go to the link listed below, you can check out the free Nadia Hilton interview (Isis Love is in this one as well). It's nine minutes thirty four seconds. Nadia mentions her first sexual encounters, which are not that unusual except for the fact that she's such a hottie . . . it just piques the imagination is all. Look under the Free Stuff column near the left to see the interview.
I love girls with British accent it makes them twice as sexy as without it.
When you see people talking about something and they enjoy it it's good, better than those standard questions where the girl has this bored look. But there are certainly some girls out there, with whom you can't talk properly. It's quite disturbing that she can't remember when her last orgasm on tape was, besides her 3 in the actually session.
I saw her in Squirting 101 Vol.10 where she had an Ok orgasm and they made fun talking in British accent. "lick his bawls" etc.
It's fun to know that Nadia Hilton likes sensual stuff and is not into the rough stuff.
Interesting, her mom found out that she does porn through internet search.. And some facts about the test, they make. It's good to know, because normally you just see them showing them to each other on camera.
I watched this interview a few weeks back and was pretty shocked. I guess I never thought I'd ever see my favorite anal performer talking about her thoughts on the creation of the universe. When we watch porn, we tend to slip into "fantasy mode" where these women are insatiable nympho sex addicts who don't care about anything else in the world except for your dick in their ass, mouth, or pussy. So it was a real interesting thing to watch this interview and see Roxy in a whole different perspective. Weird! Roxy is red hot and she is indeed my favorite anal performer. I think it's time for a porn-reality show where we watch the actual UNSCRIPTED lives of porn stars...where we learn their true thoughts on porn and life in general.
The anti-porn lobby will argue that all girls that get involved in porn, do so because they need the money. Seeing Roxy discuss her time at university suggests that she could have had a very different future, but she made the lifestyle choice of making hardcore stroke flicks. Bless her! I find Roxy much more stroke-worthy now than before I saw this interview.
She said she bought her parents a house because she saved the money she earned. But getting a normal job would never give her the amount of money she needs now.
By the way she is a normal girl, it's like everybody is astonished that she uses her tongue not only for licking but also for conversation.
I chose philosophy in school instead of religion and she's pretty right, some concepts are weird and text's are difficult to read, but I never tried to be stoned to understand it, like she did it.
In the sad town, cold iron hands clap the party of clowns outside . 251 Posts 4/04
Posted - Dec 22 2005 : 7:19PM
Holy crap ! This is the sexiest thing ive ever seen !!!
I want to fuck her right now and say...
" so Roxy, the Ontological Proof of God's Existence, soundly argued or is it syllogistic, ie. circular reasoning?? Discuss. Oh btw, can you get on top for a bit ?" Oh my.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Dec 22 2005 : 8:32PM
Anybody listening to Roxy's biting humor the last couple of years would not be surprised that she's got some depth to her. There are quite a few smart women running around the valley. Having brains doesn't disqualify a person from the sex trade. I think it makes them even sexier. Several of them post here with regularity.
Duh! I mean it re-directs me to an index file. I may not understand Wittgenstein, but I do know how to c&p and/or download a file.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't think it's a woodkiller when a girl talks about other things than porn.. still haven't seen the interview, but I already knew that Roxy rocks.
I dunno about caring for a woman's intellect level while watching her screw, but Yeah - if I'm talking about actually meeting her or having a discussion with her, yes - I'm turned on by intellect.
as for this interview, I found it difficult to concentrate on what she ws saying...I kept thinking: "DAMN! She's fine!"
I adore Roxy's cute face, petite frame, awesome boobies and amazing butt!
IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 10:21AM
Who does?
Seriously.
KimiLixx said: “I deny myself nothing when it comes to orgasms. If I want one, I'm having one, and I don't care if you like it or not. If me having one gives you some mystical problem with not having one yourself, - GET OUT OF MY BED”
The type of interview Roxy gave re-humanizes porn stars. I think this is healthy, and much more interesting than "when did you lose your virginity... when did you start porn... why? ($)... etc."
Kudos to the interview and interviewee. Roxy's always been open in her scenes, and she carried that forward into the interview.
IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 11:21AM
Wittgenstein I of course.
Last Action Negro said: “Asking to be a female's pre-scene fluffer is like asking to be Brad Pitt's Official Pussy Wrangler.”
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Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 12:29PM
In that case I might agree with you. But why stick to I when there is a free upgrade to Wittgenstein v.2.0 available? That version is much more user-friendly.