"Safe" oral sex

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tom gregory Member 7 Posts 11/02	Posted - Nov 7 2002 : 9:47PM I have kind of a dumb question about oral sex. I have been seeing this girl for several weeks now. I feel safe sex is important, especially since I don't trust a couple of guys I know of that she has been with in the past year. I wear a condom during intercourse, and there is no problem with that for me or for her. As far as Oral sex goes, she does it to me and swallows. I feel kind of bad, as I haven't "gone down" on her yet; partly because of my "safe sex" concern. I feel kind of bad that she does it to me to completion, but as I mentioned I am slightly concerned about being safe with her. I don't particularly won't to use "dental dam". I'm thinking of just using K-Y jelly and my fingers.... Is this rude? Am I being to paranoid? I greatly appreciate any advice [Link]
joeblow69 Member 946 Posts 2/00	Posted - Nov 7 2002 : 9:57PM Not to sound too crude, but if some scummy guy gave her vagina something nasty that you wouldn't want to lap up (ie herpes) then chances are he also gave her the same thing in her mouth. (after all, if she sucks your dick and swallows, chances are she did the same with the previous scummy guy). If you are really worried about it, I think the best course is to just get yourselves tested. It isn't the most romantic thing in the world for new couples to do, but these days it's starting to be a necessity. [Link]
SQUIDMONKEY Ass Lord 446 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 7:27AM Tom, Welcome to the forum and fair play for posting up your message!! I think that you should just go with the flow, and get your head down there!! Every girl loves it (within reason) when a guy goes down, and some females may find it more intimate than actual sex if you go down!! I think that you should do it, and show that the realtionship is equal, no matter who she has been with in the past. If you suddenly produce a dental dam, then she's gonna think that your treating her badly and with disrespect. Joeblows idea is also an alternative, but again, it shows that you are doubting her. Anyway, thats what I think. Hope this helps!! and good luck with whatever you choose to do... SQUID [Link]
lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 10:12AM here's a link: safe sex information I'm afraid, tom, that you have to answer this question for yourself. SQUID is an outstanding guy, and he places a very high priority on the feelings of others. But from the tone of your posting it sounds to me like you will have lingering feelings of discomfort if you don't take some precautions. To thine own self be true. If you know the girl well enough to be in this position, some honest discussion with her is in order. [Link]
SQUIDMONKEY Ass Lord 446 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 11:31AM lindi wrote: here's a link: safe sex information I'm afraid, tom, that you have to answer this question for yourself. SQUID is an outstanding guy, and he places a very high priority on the feelings of others. But from the tone of your posting it sounds to me like you will have lingering feelings of discomfort if you don't take some precautions. To thine own self be true. If you know the girl well enough to be in this position, some honest discussion with her is in order. Click to expand Thanks Lindi!! No-ones ever said that I was outstanding before!! Very touching!! thanks!! SQUID [Link]

dumblonde Senior Member 2352 Posts 7/00	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 2:30PM Welcome Tom Gregory! It's not a dumb question at all. quote lindi: "If you know the girl well enough to be in this position, some honest discussion with her is in order." I agree 100%, and the sooner the better. I think it's great that you're concerned about safe sex, but bring it up in a way that wouldn't point any fingers. Maybe go together to get tested. Wearing a condom to screw her, but then allowing her to swallow your splooge makes it obvious that you doubt her already, so I'm surprised she hasn't said something. Good luck yes Squidders, you are very outstanding [Link]
blklthrjkt Passionfruit Video Dallas 105 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 5:15PM On the condom note, there are nice flavoured condoms available specifically for oral sex. They don;t taste too much like rubber and are much safer than swallowing cum. Also the same is true for dams. Flavoured dams are available and though a little akward at first can work pretty well. My 2¢. [Link]
P-Knuckle Member 309 Posts 11/01	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 6:49PM Do you go down on women often? Be honest about this...because logistically you are getting similiar germs when she blows you without a condom, as some strains of herpes is even more common to transmit through oral contact. HPV (this is not HIV) is also transmitable through oral contact with her to you (mouth to cock, buddy!) Another wierd question I have is, 'I'm thinking of just using K-Y jelly and my fingers...' Do you not touch her at all on the vagina except for your condomed penis? Whoah! I am at a loss for words if this is the case.... [Link]
Heaven Member 363 Posts 12/01	Posted - Nov 8 2002 : 11:00PM Do you go down on women often? Be honest about this...because logistically you are getting similiar germs when she blows you without a condom, as some strains of herpes is even more common to transmit through oral contact. HPV (this is not HIV) is also transmitable through oral contact with her to you (mouth to cock, buddy!) Another wierd question I have is, 'I'm thinking of just using K-Y jelly and my fingers...' Do you not touch her at all on the vagina except for your condomed penis? Whoah! I am at a loss for words if this is the case.... Click to expand I feel the same way as you P-Knuckle. Maybe the two of you need to go and get tested together, then you won't have to be so paranoid. [Link]
SQUIDMONKEY Ass Lord 446 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 6:00AM dumblonde wrote: yes Squidders, you are very outstanding Click to expand Aaaaawwwww Thanks DB!! I feel all warm inside now!! Thanks you!!! SQUID [Link]
dandelion Member 24 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 1:04PM Has anybody experience with these dams? That sounds kinda weird to me... How would that work without killing all the lust? [Link]
JohnBlaze Member 22 Posts 4/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 6:30PM Just eat the coochie, man. Safety, schmafety. There's a chance that when I eat sushi at a restaurant, I'm gonna get food poisoning. Do I let this stop me? Hell no. I dig in. If it looks clean, smells clean, and there's no lil' critters running around, then eat it up. The chances of you contracting any diseases from eating pussy are miniscule. If, however, you reach the point where you want to start having unprotected intercourse, then mutual STD testing is a probably a good idea. [Link]
neondon Member 134 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 7:00PM You know. Smart money says to take advantage of the government-run STD testing services since they are free. Maybe you might discover something other than what you feared. It could be hepatitis, gonorrhea, syphilis, genital Herpes, or that horrible disease you thought only "other people" get: AIDS. Funny you should be squeamish about going down on her since you know other guys have been there. Imagine what the boyfriends or husbands of female porn stars must think at night. Is my babe playing a trick on me by not washing after that afternoon gangbang with the West Coast Production guys? [Link]
Nicole Member 64 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 7:12PM I agree with Joeblow, Tom. You are just as likely to get something from her blowing you as you are to go down on her. If she was the same with the other guys as she is with you (ie. will blow you without a condom, but have sex with a condom) then any germs they had on their dicks are in her mouth and on her lips. Just because someone isn't showing the signs of an STD like warts or herpes, doesn't mean that it can't be transmitted. You're kidding yourself if you think getting a blow job without a condom is safe sex. You need a reality check, and to stop being selfish by using her past as an excuse not to go down on her. Like everyone else said up there...if you're that paranoid, get tested. Or wear a condom while she's blowing you. Or you can use a dental dam on her pussy while you eat her out. I've never tried it, but something is better than nothing. I hope this doesn't come off sounding bitchy, I just want you to look at it from all angles, instead of from just your own. And if you didn't want my opinion you wouldn't have asked for it! :-)) Edited by - nicole on 6/29/2004 7:18:50 PM Edited by - nicole on 6/29/2004 7:19:43 PM Edited by - nicole on 6/29/2004 7:20:37 PM [Link]
Luke Hanson Member San Pornando Valley 55 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 10:05PM Going down on a woman is the most surefire way of making her climax and makes her feel so good.......how could you possibly NOT want to give her that kind of pleasure?!?!???!?! [Link]

bigbadwolf16669 Deactivated User 387 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 30 2004 : 12:19PM If a women smell good and taste good its great to lick her pussy but if a women dont smell to good or taste bad well stay away from there. [Link]
licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 1 2004 : 7:10AM People have stated in this thread and in many other places that I have seen, that "HIV can be transmitted by cunnilingus". Can anyone point me to any reputable scientific studies that show this? I tried to find this out once before, but the only study I found was one from Spain, which showed that in 19000 recorded encounters, transmission did not take place even once. Anyone have any good links? [Link]
Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jul 1 2004 : 7:56AM Lots of reading here, hope it's of use. Tinynibbles.com has some safer sex advice. Mistimed Don't despair a three minute love gone hard lc [Link]
bigbadwolf16669 Deactivated User 387 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jul 1 2004 : 11:49PM Getting your cock suck with a condom on realy sucks whats the fun.If i had to put on a condom to get a bj I would say fuck it i dont want the bj. [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Jul 2 2004 : 6:32AM bigbadwolf16669 wrote: Getting your cock suck with a condom on realy sucks whats the fun.If i had to put on a condom to get a bj I would say fuck it i dont want the bj. Click to expand I would only get a blowjob without a condom from a long term partner I trust, getting a blowjob without a condom from someone you just met is just too risky. Personally I use condoms for vaginal or oral sex even with my regular partner. bigbadwolf16669 you should TRY condoms, I use them all the time and don't find they reduce sensation at all. Just get good quality ultra thin ones... [Link]
bigbadwolf16669 Deactivated User 387 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jul 4 2004 : 7:22PM Joey Starr wrote: bigbadwolf16669 wrote: Getting your cock suck with a condom on realy sucks whats the fun.If i had to put on a condom to get a bj I would say fuck it i dont want the bj. Click to expand I would only get a blowjob without a condom from a long term partner I trust, getting a blowjob without a condom from someone you just met is just too risky. Personally I use condoms for vaginal or oral sex even with my regular partner. bigbadwolf16669 you should TRY condoms, I use them all the time and don't find they reduce sensation at all. Just get good quality ultra thin ones... Click to expand Dont worry about me i use condoms for vaginal and anal sex but for getting a blowjob I prefere not to get a blowjob if i have to put a comdom on,i do get to know the girl before i have sex with her. [Link]
licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 8 2004 : 5:35AM Loraine wrote: Lots of reading here, hope it's of use. Click to expand Thanks Loraine. I'll take a look through it. Search on "cunnilingus & HIV" and the first thing it pops up is the Spanish study I mentioned above. I'll keep on digging. [Link]
Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jul 8 2004 : 10:31AM Joey Starr wrote: I would only get a blowjob without a condom from a long term partner I trust, getting a blowjob without a condom from someone you just met is just too risky. Click to expand I don't know too much about this but why would it be any riskier, from the mans perspective, for a man to enjoy receiving oral than to french kiss? Both routes would require the virus to transmit from a source of blood within the girls mouth to some kind of lesion or cut on your penis or in your mouth respectively. Maybe you have great weeping pustules on your cock but generally for myself I know I'm a lot less likely to have a cut or abrasion on my cock than in my mouth. SNP. [Link]
Zartyr Member 700 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 9 2004 : 2:34PM licker wrote: People have stated in this thread and in many other places that I have seen, that "HIV can be transmitted by cunnilingus". Can anyone point me to any reputable scientific studies that show this? I tried to find this out once before, but the only study I found was one from Spain, which showed that in 19000 recorded encounters, transmission did not take place even once. Anyone have any good links? Click to expand Loraine already gave you a link to the CDC's Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention-site The short PDF-handout (ftp://ftp.cdcnpin.org/Updates/oralsex.pdf) from the CDC concerning risks of HIV-infection in oral-sex-practises (oral-penile/oral-vaginal/oral-anal) seems to be outdated. It is from 2000! I did a little bit of MedLine-ing and found an interesting study, not about cunnilingus, but about fellatio. In a short communique(PDF) they state "HIV infection through receptive oral sex is a very rare event—statistically our study showed a probability of zero—and is rarer than HIV infection through receptive anal intercourse using a condom" I guess the risk must be even lower regarding cunnilingus. Citation and abstract of the article: Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men. Page-Shafer,-K; Shiboski,-C-H; Osmond,-D-H; Dilley,-J; McFarland,-W; Shiboski,-S-C; Klausner,-J-D; Balls,-J; Greenspan,-D; Greenspan,-J-S AIDS. 2002 Nov 22; 16(17): 2350-2 We examined HIV infection and estimated the population-attributable risk percentage (PAR%) for HIV associated fellatio among men who have sex with other men (MSM). Among 239 MSM who practised exclusively fellatio in the past 6 months, 50% had three partners, 98% unprotected; and 28% had an HIV-positive partner; no HIV was detected. PAR%, based on the number of fellatio partners, ranges from 0.10% for one partner to 0.31% for three partners. The risk of HIV attributable to fellatio is extremely low. Edited by - Zartyr on 7/9/2004 2:51:38 PM Edited by - Zartyr on 7/9/2004 2:52:24 PM Edited by - Zartyr on 7/9/2004 2:53:55 PM Edited by - Zartyr on 7/9/2004 2:57:50 PM [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 4:29AM Sir Noel Plum wrote: I know I'm a lot less likely to have a cut or abrasion on my cock than in my mouth. Click to expand Fine for you but what about the girl? [Link]

Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03	Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 6:27AM Joey Starr wrote: Sir Noel Plum wrote: I know I'm a lot less likely to have a cut or abrasion on my cock than in my mouth. Click to expand Fine for you but what about the girl? Click to expand Well she'd be alright because I haven't got HIV Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 7/10/2004 6:28:15 AM [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 8:20AM Sir Noel Plum wrote: Well she'd be alright because I haven't got HIV Click to expand Or so you think... I prefer to err on the side of safety [Link]