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| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 |  Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 1:30PMI use the the most recent version of XP. Today twice my computer has decided to shut down and restart with no prompting from me. It might be an issue with CPU heat. The fins of my heat sink are caked with un-vacuum able dust so I am afraid my CPU fan is cooling the crud and not the CPU. What is a good way to clean out the fins? A toothpick does not bend the way I need it to and a pipe cleaner is made with a scratchy metal core. Have you folks any ideas? [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 8:41PM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 9:16PM [Link] |
Bob  All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 11:20PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 11:27PM I need to do this myself. I've been putting it off and I just know there's a ton of crud in there. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:26AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 5:14AM EDIT for spelling. Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 5:17:56 AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 5:17AM I have an awful fear that nothing is getting cooled. EDIT: because I failed to spell "it" properly. Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 5:19:09 AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 5:20AM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 9:03AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 12:28PM I'll have to get a tube of heatsink grease when I put it back on right? Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 1:16:22 PM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 1:07PM Did you know that most circuit boards are washed with a water solution during the production assembly process? Yes, you'll also need some heat sink paste. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 1:13PM What do you folks recommend as a good heat sink grease/paste/whatever? And is it expensive? (As in more expensive then just buying a new socket 775 Pentium heat sink?) [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 1:18PM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:07PM During the manufacturing process as the components are soldered to the circuit board there's nasty chemicals involved. The circuit boards go through a wash cycle to remove these chemicals. At one point in time the wash cycle used chemical solvents. I think by the late 90s most of that was replaced with water based solutions or just plain deionized water. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:10PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:37PM In my opinion, there are two factors here. First, the risk of taking the heat sink out isn't worth it if you can clean it some other way. You should be able to get at the fins with a toothbrush if you just remove the fan. HOWEVER, if you're having an issue with too much heat, it could also mean that you need a fresh application of thermal grease. I hear that the good stuff can cost as much as $30 (US$) but since it's such an important component, the money spent could be well worth it. However, the kind the has silver in it conducts electricity so if you use that, you'd better make sure you don't spill any on the board and don't put so much in there that it squishes out and spills over the edges. Again, I'd try just cleaning it first if you aren't really comfortable and see if that brings the heat down. OTOH, unless you have a fancy processor, even if you had to replace the processor, prices have come down quite a bit and you can get a nice processor for not too much. Edited by - randomprecision on 2/5/2008 2:39:02 PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:56PM The fins in my CPU heat sink are caked with immobile dust/crust. I can probably easily clean the thing if I can come up with a way to do so. The paint brush is a smart idea. My vacuum cleaner does not work. EDIT: to say that I have attempted to vacuum the gunk out of it. No dice. And also I have tried to blast the crud out with compressed gas dusters with no luck. It is firmly embedded. EDIT AGAIN: to say that I would not find the option of removing it and washing it appealing. Drew, I think you know your stuff about computers but this makes me super nervous and worried. Though it makes perfect sense to me. Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 3:05:05 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 3:25PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 3:27PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 3:48PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 6:56PM I'm with Harri -- taking off your heatsink is not a big deal if you're reasonably careful. It's also much less stressful if you spend some time inspecting your motherboard to see how the heatsink is attached. Also, go to the website of the company that manufactured your heatsink and look up your model. There should be support documentation about installation and removal. Once you've removed the retainer clips on the heatsink, don't use force to pull it off the CPU; instead, rotate it around some to loosen it. I think Arctic Silver is worth it, especially if you're overclocking your CPU. It's about $10 for a re-sealable tube, which can be used many times (you don't need or want to use too much per application). I clean off both the heatsink and the CPU die with solvent to get all the old paste off. Then I squeeze a very small amount on the processor die and spread it all over with my index finger, so that the whole surface is just covered. [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 7:05PM Like a gonzogirl- your cpu is "airtight". [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 10:58PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:10PM EDITED TO ADD: I just googled break cleaning fluid and it sounds incredibly caustic. It will dissolve asbestos. Do you have to use the stuff outdoors? EDIT AGAIN LATER: Oh my. I like the way you think. I could take off my dirty heat sink and dunk/spray it with that stuff and it would probably remove all of my caked on dust/crud.  EDIT yet again because my spelling sucks. Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 11:15:16 PM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:21PM Don't get it on your skin either. It will leave it red and raw like the kind of sunburn you get when you accidentally leave skin exposed while welding steel. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:30PM Okay so I want to get all this straight: I should carefully remove my heat sink and fan and then remove the fan from the heat sink. I should also buy a tube of heat sink grease/paste/whatever. Next I should get a can of brake cleaner and scrub the heat sink with it. Then pretty much reverse the steps? [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:35PM But, having said that, if it's total overkill you're after, get yourself one of those gallon cans of carburetor cleaner that comes with a dip basket. Guaranteed to take years off your life, and leave your hands, computer, and apartment smelling like embalming fluid for months. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:38PM I'll take a picture if you folks want. My CPU heat sink is seriously (no joke) caked with immobile crust. [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:48PM I never said use solvents. Hillary Scott is not "gunk proof" she is air tight. [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:51PM BTW, you shouldn't have to scrub with brake cleaner. It will do all the work for you. You just spray it on and the crud will wash away with zero effort. It's chemically formulated to wash brake dust away and leave little residue. It does leave some residue that you should wash off. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:55PM This was taken just now while the fan was running. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:56PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:58PM EDIT: the word "this" hasn't a letter "d". Edited by - conquistador on 2/5/2008 11:59:17 PM [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 11:59PM [Link] |
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| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 12:01AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:21AM I don't know if this was necessary (my monitor is a little dark) but I brightened your pic a bit. [Image not found DB] It looks like the fan is held in place by clips. Some have screws, some clips. I can't really tell from the pic. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:27AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:30AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:33AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:50AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:55AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 1:56AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 2:02AM Edited by - randomprecision on 2/6/2008 2:03:33 AM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 10:27AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 10:29AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 10:30AM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 10:39AM Is your motherboard covered with crud, too? It looks that way from RP's photo. If so, you might want to clean that as well when the board is removed from your case. Note: Since you're currently using Intel's stock heatsink, you might also consider finding a replacement for it on eBay. Lots of people who purchase retail LGA 775 CPUs use an after-market heatsink and want to unload the unneeded stock heatsink that came in the retail box. I'd guess you could pick up a brand new replacement of your current heatsink for $10-$15 bucks plus S&H. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 6 2008 : 10:43AM [Link] |
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