I'm not naive, but this has puzzled me for years: WHERE IN THE FUCK do these Backroom Casting Couch and Girls Do Porn and Exploited College Girls producers find these girls!?! Most of them are true amateurs with no other credits, they're young, some are pretty enough to be pros, some are plain. Often they're nervous and clumsy, and are VERY CONVINCING as beginners doing porn for the first time. I DON'T GET IT! I can't make myself believe there's THAT DEEP a pool of college-age girls...NOT professional porn starlets...who need cash so badly that they'll splay out their pussies and finger their buttholes and suck strange dicks and take facial loads from a fat guy holding a goddamned JVC camcorder...then ALLOW the video to publish on some web site. But there are ZILLIONS of these scenes and ZILLIONS of these girls!! And they're on the Internet. FOREVER! Civilian chicks whose load-covered faces are now permanently preserved on the web. Porn stars I understand...they committed to this life for whatever reason and they accept that they're "out there". But these reality porn 'couch girls'? Are they really that delusional? Are they really that dumb? Do they really think they're in show business, or if not, that these videos will never come back to haunt them? I'm not complaining: I enjoy the scenes, I like watching attractive young women suck and fuck, and I couldn't care less what people do with their lives. But the sheer number of these live-for-the-moment girls is astonishing.
I have no doubt that some of these girls may be college students. Most college students are really broke, and a thousand dollars or so for a few hours work is a very tempting proposition. I would imagine that a few of these girls are either strippers or hookers as well. I'm sure some of the girls do realize that doing porn may come back to haunt them, but the lure of easy money might just be too much for many girls to resist. Edited by - macko69 on 5/14/2012 3:29:12 AM
I don’t know, I can’t understand them, even those who are obviously dirty sluts. May the Good Lord bless me to never have daughters.
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Porn Scout Deactivated User
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Posted - May 26 2012 : 2:52AM
They may be out there forever, but give it a few years and who would recognize them? You'd be surprised the extent to which makeup, a few years, a few pounds, and a wardrobe can change someone's appearance.
I think ther are many aspects to this. The girls believe it to be 'modeling' but then the director is 'convincing' (money and charms). Girls probably send photographs to Playboy and other publications as well, and sex in the modeling business is pretty much espected anyways. I think most of the girls realize that on some level, they're not always naive. College girls today most likely watch internet porn and probably feel curious about the big cocks and experienced men. Even though scenes 'never dissapear' they tend to drown in the sheer amount of porn published, most people don't care about the names of the girls, just watches a new scene every time they need to gett off. The stigma should wear off with older generations thinking sex out of marriage is a sin. The economic crisis isn't making sex for money any less appealing, especially if you're having a lot of casual sex anyways.
I find it very intriguing as well,Im 25 not to far removed from college and even the wildest girls on campus would creep out at the thought of sex for money,so that just shows how many girls are really outside of the mainstream on this. I think because its porn girls can say its showbiz and not feel like they are having sex for money. I think if you do 1 movie there is50/50 chance somebody might see it,hell bang bros has 2006 scenes on its front pages right now. I think these girls severely underestimate this,and how much the potential blow back,it can cause in regards to friends family and future spouses. guys now a days might marry a chick who was wild in college,guys even casually date strippers now but im sure even the most liberal guys my age will not marry someone who was blowing a old fat guy on camera for cash. also what amazes me is how casually these girls cheat on their boyfriends in these movies like they actually talk about their boyfriends while they are getting pounded out. even alot of promiscuous girls I know stay faithful in relationships. I dont know as a guy of this generation,my knowledge of the porn world really has me not trusting woman and I severely psycho analyze any girl before dating them serious. I wish somebody would do a study of all pornstars to get a good reading on their demographics and psychological profiles in comparison to the general population. what is cool though is with a jvc camera a few hundred bucks and a internet connection anybody can have a young or older slutty chick doing nasty things to you on camera,I know I have experienced it good times to be alive I guess
I don't know about that. There is so much porn on the internet, everything tends to get lost in the crowd. If you pointed out to me a girl on the street and told me she did a sex scene, I'd have no idea how to find it amongst the millions of scenes out there. And by telling me, you are admitting to me that you are a pervert who looks at lots of internet porn in order to be aware of some obscure unknown chick haing a sex scene. You are incriminating yourself as much as you are incriminating her. That part of it has a chilling effect against everyone being a gossiping blabbermouth.
There is an article at Wired Magazine that explains why so many ordinary women are willing to do porn for the first time. Recent scientific studies have found that most of women fantasize about being sexually irresistible to many guys. Most women either secretly or not so secretly want to arouse many guys with their sexy appearance and have the horny guys stroke their dicks secretly or not so secretly to make their day. Apparently, it's easier for an ordinary guy to lay a pretty woman on a porn set with a promise to show her sexual performance to thousands of guys, than it is to lay such a woman in private. Many women are naturally exhibitionist. That's why so many women dress to reveal their cleavages and other sexy parts.
There was a story 2 years back about a college girl who shot for BCC, Elizabeth Hawkens. She actually showed her true college IDs, and fellow students tracked her down. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php Edit: in bcc, her name is Libby. Edited by - Jambavant on 5/27/2012 6:50:49 PM
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Mike1120 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 11:51AM
For many women, it gives them a sense of empowerment to conduct themselves in the same way in the adult industry as men. This may be the reason why you can find so many younger amateur women being open to the idea of doing scenes. The see it as liberating. Years ago, women burned their bras in protest for recognition and equality. This is not too far removed from the same concept. Yes, many of them see the easy money, but more power to them. When you hear about the fact that a woman cannot walk down the street alone in some countries without being stoned because at least a family member or their husband is not escorting them, you can see why our women see things differently now versus even 10 years ago regarding sexuality. I was watching some old Essex titles that I got from Excalibur Films. Watch any of their classics that they carry and even the pros of 1970s and 1980s porn are portrayed as vulnerable and waiting for a guy to seduce them and pound them to kingdom come. With today's movies, this whole empowerment concept is plain as day. Just watch anything involving the Bang Bus where hot pornstars are shot being the aggressors, even pulling over to grab some dumbass into the car and having their way with them. The Fuck Team is also a good series that shows women in more sexually aggressive and empowering roles. To the hot young women who fall into this discussion and are reading these posts about you, it's not that we're questioning why you engage in porn or where they find you, but why can't you please move next door to us! I'll probably never see a hot college girl bend over and play with herself in front of me unless I stick my face close to my DVD player and tv. Great topic.
i think girls more or less have to worry about somebody they know seeing the film like the ASU girls. Your right I probably wouldnt even notice sasha grey in a crowd in my city. but girls getting outted happens alot a floriday county chairman just got fired because,they found out his wife used to do porn
I think they get their girls from the same place as most other sites and that's from newspaper ads, word of mouth, recruiting in strip clubs and agents. I don't believe the BS story that these are college girls or the other stuff they try to make us believe in the interview section.
See here what “Amateur Allure” says about that : « Some misconceptions about the job: Worried about “getting caught” by someone you know? Well, with 90,000+ adult sites on the net, chances of this happening are slim to none. We certainly can’t guarantee someone won’t recognize you, but realize this: we’ve been doing this now for 8+ years… we’ve evaluated thousands of adult sites and not once have we been able to ID anyone we’ve known from school, the community, or the workplace. The few times we’ve heard of this sort of thing happening to one of our actors, it’s been them… bragging to someone about a job they’ve done. »…
What studies, when, where? Who was studied? I think the explanation is simple. They do it for the money. Fantasizing about being sexually irresistible, whether it's women or men is a long way from appearing on "Backroom Casting Couch"
I'd prefer a future wife to have done this, and i'd enjoy fucking her as she told me about the time she had a bareback creampie for money that guys still pay to download and jerk off over. It's flattering knowing that is your girl.
ehh i dont know like i said tha girl at ASU lost her scholarship because a class mate recognized her,and I hear alot of stories from san diego states and UCLA of guys dumping their girlfreinds because somebody saw there porn movies.
San Diego? UCLA i can understand since alot of porn is produced there, but wasn't aware of San Diego? Which series are you talking about that has alot of San Diego gals?
doing just a few amateur scenes is stupid, first they don't get paid a lot, second the scene will forever be online and can come back to "haunt" them in the future if they get respectable jobs. Better to go all in =)
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Posted - May 31 2012 : 9:03AM
You would be surprised how gullible your average 18-21 year old female is...especially if they have a touch of emotional baggage they are carrying or 'self-esteem' issues...
Nope she did not. The rumor that she lost her scholarship was actually a 4chan joke trolling the news. Congrats guys. It reminds me of this joke that made the news about a woman suing a 3D porn theater, claiming that the 3D porn actors impregnated her while her husband was on the front. Some people actually believed the story (her being THAT stupid, not pregnant).
This is an awesome thread, and I think you're bringing up something fundamental about female sexuality that the industry should be paying attention to (instead of inventing new and more abusive fetishes). I'm sure it's not the reason girls STAY in porn, but all the Girls Gone Wild vids (the parts that aren't staged) show girls have an exhibitionist side that wants to be seen as sexual objects of desire. I would call it "College Recruiters", and explore the young women's fantasies described above. The idea is to lure college girls to a free live sex party, and before the show the beautiful college-age pornstar (think Tori Black, not Shyla Stylez) would "interview" them and ask about their fantasies. The sex show would try to incorporate those fantasies and more. Then after the show the pornstar would "recruit" them to try porn, both for the "you haven't lived until you've tried it" experience and for the quick money. The girls can wear a mask that covers just enough of their face to make it hard to identify them, but easy to see their expressions during the scene. If they really enjoy it, then they could turn pro and go without the mask. I elaborate on this topic in this thread: https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/college-girl-bystanders-watching-pros-fuck
^ I think this kind of a set up will need to be staged with pre-screened girls. Because the studies say that only about 50% of women have exhibitionist fantasies. And a lot of attractive girls have boyfriends, which makes such girls unavailable for exhibitionist sex-parties. I think women who go into the strip-teasing business are women who might be persuaded to perform in porn movies too. Because stip-teasing women have exhibitionists tendencies. They enjoy arousing many men, and getting the aroused men shoot their cum might be even more enjoyable for them.
My preference for the "College Recruiters" concept is to avoid strippers in particular, and focus on college girls that are exploring their sexuality. I like watching the college girls watch the porn girls fuck -- there's a complex mix of embarrassment (that they're watching it), awe (at what the pornstar is doing in front of everyone), and disdain (for the pornstar's career choice) on the college girls' faces. The idea is not to get the college girls to fuck at the sex show -- only to get them there to watch it and then the pornstar would recruit them to try doing a scene later. The girls would be promised anonymity from start to finish -- they would wear a "grand ball" mask (surrounds the eyes) to the sex show so they won't fear being identified, and would wear one during their own scene.
Personally, I think that there are so many young women putting revealing photos and videos on the web these days that in ten years, it's just not going to be a big deal anymore. People are thinking about this as though it's the 80s or something. We're moving into a new era where people are getting used to seeing porn and nudity and hopefully, a lot of the stigma is going to go away. Frankly, every girl who's ever posted pictures of herself with a dick in her mouth has the same concern.
^ The only way to keep attractive women from revealing their charms is to have all kinds of social, legal, and illegal punishments for women who reveal themselves to men. Because attractive women gain an advantage over less attractive women by getting many men to like them. Men don't just open doors. They do all kinds of things for women they like, even when they don't have a personal relationship with the woman they like. When women are free to do as they like, then they are likely to use their attractiveness to their advantage. I think it's just common sense for women to behave this way. You need punishments and fear to stop women from behaving this way. This is how all conservative societies stop their women from behaving this way.
Yes it is amazing how a few years can make some people look entirely different. And as some of you have said, most of us would probably never recogize one of our fave stars walking down the street. Just look at some of the papparazzi shots of movie stars when they are out on the street with no make up on. Many of them look terrible. A good make up artist and a hair do can make a girl look really fabulous.
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Posted - Dec 28 2012 : 2:24PM
That Wired magazine 'article' is laughably bad pop science. Sad that such pseudo-scientific nonsense is published in a semi-reputable magazine (Wired is a bit of a joke afterall). The answer is obvious, these women are prostitutes, there are a lot of prostitutes in the world.
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bellend Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 28 2012 : 3:43PM
Libby sued JVC tiny dick and won. He have here herpes.
More girls in college or even of college age, engage in stripping (private parties), part-time prostitution and porn than you would ever imagine. And yes, it's the money but the part about seeing oneself as irresistable and appealing is a component too. It's not just the "slutty" girls either. You would be astounded at how many "nice" or even "nerdy" gorls do this. Oh and BTW most are able to keep it confidentail for their entire life.
BTW, I don't really care if they're real amateurs or not. Most of them do have the "GND" vibe. Which is appealing These guys do a nice job for porn that has the atmosphere of just being thrown together. I find their scenes more appealing than a lot of the bigger names.
Going slightly off topic, but I have often asked if anyone (younger members thinks they have seen their mother or father in a porn scene. No one has ever answered me. But it must have happened. So either they don't recognise them after all those years or they are keeping quite, or they have not seen my posts yet!
Wrong. That's not to say some don't do tricks, but the vast majority of these girls are just sexually active women that have grown up with porn and it's on their bucket list....and OBTW, some of these sites pay premiums for these girls and $$ talks. My experience is they are really GND looking to make bank.
I can't answer your question directly, but I've filmed lots of real couples that already had children, so having their kids eventually see them having sex on camera isn't much of a deterrent. These couples are generally very sex-positive and don't really care who sees them enjoying what they enjoy. They often use their real names, so Google will help their kids find them. With the increase in women with tats, it's not likely they will be confused as being someone else. I've filmed girls that had the names of their kids tattooed on themselves. Not likely that will get missed. I should add, I have had situations where parents have watched their kids in scenes or helped their kids get into porn. I don't know of any parents that stumbled onto a scene with their kids, but rather where the kids were up front about what they were doing and their parents were fine or encouraged them to do it. Edited by - Rod on 12/30/2012 7:30:51 AM
The word 'prostitute' is so derogatory and so judgmental that I don't think it has any place in a polite discussion about sex workers. When you call a woman a prostitute, then you basically accuse her of being a criminal. Because prostitution is a crime for which people get arrested and punished by law in most places in USA and in much of the world. And this word has a derogatory meaning in the religious sense too. Because the Bible and the Quran condemn prostitutes to Hell and eternal damnation. They are portrayed as really bad people, who don't deserve much respect. I think the word 'prostitute' is an insult for sex workers. And you shouldn't be insulting them, unless this is your intention.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 2:09PM
I don't consider prostitute a negative term, sorry if that was the impression. Sex worker I consider a broader term that takes in more than just prostitutes.
Although both perform sex for money a prostitute technically sells the use of her body for the personal pleasure of her customer , a sex worker sells a performance , the final user, the actual customer is not on set , even the male performer get paid , he is a sexual worker as much as her. How can it be defined prostitution when both the fuckers get paid?
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bellend Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 3:44PM
Being a sex worker who has their work permanently documented on the internet is far worse than a prostitute who turns a trick and never leaves a physical record of the act again.
GDP shoots in San Diego and ECG shoots in Arizona. When you shoot outside of LA, you get the amateurs who are in it for the quick cash... not the girls looking to make a career out of it. Same goes for Facial Abuse in NJ and exploitedteens in PA. That's your answer. Plain and simple.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 6:29PM
Yeah, that might be true, but a real couple getting filmed having sex is way different that someone discovering that their mom has a couple hundred credits under their belt.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 6:35PM
No, you're not calling her a criminal, you're calling her prostitute, IE someone who has sex for money.
You seem to be kind of stuck on this topic. It seems like I've seen you posting about this several times. It's almost as if you have a fetish for women getting busted by their kin after having made porn or something.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 11:05PM
Huh? Actually, no, I just contribute to the thread if it seems interesting or if I have something to say.
Whether the word 'prostitute' is an insult for sex workers or not is for them to decide and not for you. It's the same as in interracial relations, the black people decide which words are insulting for them. Because a racist can easily use insulting words and then claim that he didn't intend any insult, while snickering about it with his racist friends.