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L Member 10 Posts 11/06	Posted - Jan 3 2007 : 4:00PM Why do you think it is that sex toys for girls are considered par for the course and totally acceptable, while their male equivalents are objects of sniggering derision? Personally I've never seriously considered buying a pretend vagina, but thought nothing of buying a girl one of those rabbit vibes. It only just occured to me that for some reason dildoes and other mechanisms of male substitution seem normal to my mind, while man-made cock sockets are beyond my pale. Why is that do you think? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jan 3 2007 : 9:34PM L wrote: Why do you think it is that sex toys for girls are considered par for the course and totally acceptable, while their male equivalents are objects of sniggering derision? Click to expand Because women can't really do anything wrong. Everything men do is wrong, disgusting, sickening and deserving of extreme derision. You get used to it. [Link]
lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jan 4 2007 : 12:25AM I don't think that's it. I think some of the things that enter into it are: 1) Women are sex objects. 2) Women are supposed to be more passive and virginal. Men are supposed to go out there and get some. But women are supposed to be clean and pure and waiting just for you. But hot and horny, and wanting to show you how they can hardly wait. 3) Other stuff like that. People are very confused. It's not any easier for women to be horny yet virginal. Heh. Edited by - lindi on 1/4/2007 12:25:50 AM [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Jan 4 2007 : 2:02AM female sex toys have been integrated into pop culture. male sex toys have not. almost every adult knows what a vibrator is, just as general knowledge. who can identify a cock-ring on site? who would not be repulsed when first seeing a fleshlight with no prior knowledge? it's all about exposure. [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jan 4 2007 : 9:18PM Best thing I ever read on the double-standard was this on another forum (not ADT): Most because people think a girl should have a dildo instead for fucking around, and that men should have a girl to fuck with instead of a [toy], because that would make him weak and unsuccessful in people's eyes (and a girl would be a slut if she was with many guys). Click to expand [Link]

Kush Removed 13 Posts 9/06	Posted - Jan 5 2007 : 12:38PM L wrote: Why do you think it is that sex toys for girls are considered par for the course and totally acceptable, while their male equivalents are objects of sniggering derision? Don't know specifics, but it runs deep-enough that before posting about getting one of these "Things"(UR3-vag),I thought [NOT] How Cool is it to be ordering one of these things but hmmm... Maybe I should be posting "this subject" under a different name. I do know that after watching enough of those "Discovery"-like Channel's/Series on Cable TV about ANTHROPOLOGY in general (a subject that I thought I wanted to know everything there is to know; not anymore)I've begun to see that most things are there for a reason and for damn-good reason; Survival! The village-primate-politics of burn-the witch, no that"pretty-witch"[gals]or The guy getting the most ass usually, usually isn't the empty wagon making the most noise or the loudest. I've heard something about Psychology being the easiest course to pass in College! [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jan 5 2007 : 8:45PM Men are judged on their ability to earn, fuck, and fight. Pleasure on our own terms? Hah! We're not supposed to USE devices and machines because we're supposed to BE devices and machines. [Link]
Kush Removed 13 Posts 9/06	Posted - Jan 8 2007 : 3:05PM Bob wrote: Men are judged on their ability to earn, fuck, and fight. Pleasure on our own terms? Hah! We're not supposed to USE devices and machines because we're supposed to BE devices and machines. Click to expand YIKES! & DAMN Bob! Cut it to the Quick, Cut it to the Bone & Cut to THE MARROW; I can spell SUCCINT with a little help from you know who. NUFF SAID & TOO-TRUE! [Link]
Kush Removed 13 Posts 9/06	Posted - Jan 8 2007 : 3:08PM Kush wrote: Bob wrote: Men are judged on their ability to earn, fuck, and fight. Pleasure on our own terms? Hah! We're not supposed to USE devices and machines because we're supposed to BE devices and machines. Click to expand Kush wrote: YIKES! & DAMN Bob! Cut it to the Quick, Cut it to the Bone & Cut to THE MARROW; I can spell SUCCINT with a little help from you know who. NUFF SAID & TOO-TRUE! Click to expand [Link]
Pagoda Senior Member Thread Killer 1747 Posts 10/05	Posted - Jan 8 2007 : 5:50PM Of all the customers that patronize my store, men are the most secretive. They're embarrassed about buying a pocket pussy, and feel threatened by sex toys designed for women. It is the rare male that seeks assistance for himself and/or his partner from the likes of me. I praise them for it, openly and unabashedly. Whenever a man approaches me about buying a masturbatory aid, I do my damnedest to help him. Unfortunately I have very little information to work with. My male customers do not come back with stories of their success or failure with any particular product. I wish they'd be more open about it, because it could greatly assist other men. Honestly, my only feedback about such products is gleaned from ADT. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jan 8 2007 : 6:23PM Interesting observation, Pagoda. I've used shopping for sex toys, in part, as anti-shame therapy. A place like the Pleasure Chest in Los Angeles -- which has every kind of toy, gear, book, video, costume, lube, etc. that you can imagine -- has been a great place for that. By and large, the staff (especially the women) are incredibly helpful and friendly. * Off topic -- I've spotted pornstars there on a few occasions. A couple of months ago, two familiar performers came in together, looking very much like girlfriends, shopping for slave collars, ball gags, and other bondage gear. I kept a respectful distance but enjoyed the eye candy (then) and the fantasies (later). [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jan 8 2007 : 10:26PM Pagoda wrote: Of all the customers that patronize my store, men are the most secretive. I wish they'd be more open about it, because it could greatly assist other men. Honestly, my only feedback about such products is gleaned from ADT. Click to expand I read a funny article once that said there's an unwritten social contract between porn-shop workers and customers: even though we both know why you're there and exactly what you're going to do with this stuff, you never, ever acknowledge the fact that it's going to be fodder for masturbation. Absolutely true. It's a part of my private life that I generally don't want to share with friends of mine, much less strangers. If I'm in a porno shop and I buy something, I can pass it off as a bachelor party gift, but deep down I know it's not. So I'm standing there with my copy of Big Tit Illustrated or Ass Over Tits or She-Male Monthly, or a dvd of Busty Asian Masturbating Lesbian Nuns 9, or a $200 rubber pussy molded from my favorite porn star, and I feel like anyone who sees it has an x-ray vision into a dark part of my soul. I don't necessarily want the world to know what gets me off. I don't want people picturing me beating off or humping this thing. I especially don't want people busting a gut in the backroom talking about it, even if I never know about it. Cause I suspect it. I don't think it's so unusual. A little bit of it is generational: I didn't grow up with the internet, softcore porn on cable tv and explicit sex in paperbacks you can get at the grocery store, but I'm not that old. My friends and I had a pool of men's magazines and we'd trade them. But outside of the occasional joke about pages being stuck together, we never, ever mentioned what we might be doing while reading them. In our minds we would just look the pictures and sigh, like we do now looking at photos of exotic sports cars and warm Caribbean islands. I'm free with my advice here, but I can't imagine myself holding a conversation with someone at a porn shop, debating the merits of the Danni Ashe Boobs (save your money) or the Kobi Thai Ultra Realistic P&A (great if you can afford it), and so on. That's why I buy my stuff on the internet. The postman has no idea (hopefully) what I'm getting. Now I have no problem discussing any of this here. I actually enjoy discussing it; but here I have anonymity (or at least I feel like I do). Edited by - jayo on 1/9/2007 12:36:38 AM Edited by - jayo on 7/1/2007 6:35:07 PM [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jan 9 2007 : 12:40AM Pagoda wrote: Unfortunately I have very little information to work with. My male customers do not come back with stories of their success or failure with any particular product. I wish they'd be more open about it, because it could greatly assist other men. Honestly, my only feedback about such products is gleaned from ADT. Click to expand I know you say it in the last sentence, but I'll offer it anyway. I'll be happy to discuss any product I'm familiar with, for what it's worth. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 7:24PM Pagoda wrote: I wish they'd be more open about it, because it could greatly assist other men. Honestly, my only feedback about such products is gleaned from ADT. Click to expand Pagoda. Have you ever tried to find an online forum that's dedicated exclusively to sex toys? There just has to be at least one. There seems to be one for just about everything. [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 7:30PM RandomPrecision wrote: Pagoda. Have you ever tried to find an online forum that's dedicated exclusively to sex toys? There just has to be at least one. There seems to be one for just about everything. Click to expand I wondered the same, but never found one (not that's any good). The only ones I've found that are close are Doll Forum, which caters specifically to love dolls, and one for Fleshlight users. They're good, but they're very limited in scope. and Sex Toy Talk is all reviews. [Link]

RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 7:53PM One could always start one. [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 8:07PM I don't have the equipment, time or knowledge to do it properly. I keep hoping one will open as an adjunct here. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 8:19PM I doubt it would get much traffic. Most people who end up here are interested in information and discussion about DVDs. In order to really draw a good crowd of people who were all interested in exclusively discussing toys, that would have to be the forum's main purpose. And it would probably take a while for it to become established. I've seen some dead forums that seemed like great ideas. I have no idea why they died. It really is like lightening when a forum succeeds. It isn't guaranteed. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 9:29PM I enjoy perusing the Fleshlight Forums, and was even a moderator over there for awhile. It's mostly men (a few gals) discussing the Fleshlight and, typically, comparing those male sex toys to other P&A units/pocket pussies out on the market. By and large, most users feel there is no comparison between a Fleshlight and most other toys for the same price, at least in terms of feel. This topic comes up over there almost all the time. Generally speaking, most users feel that men just are too uptight with their sexuality in general to openly discuss sex toys. It's considered "less manly" to even discuss masturbation in purely sexual terms....borderline gay, in fact. Not that I agree. But it's still pretty much a taboo subject. Men just aren't typically "man enough" to admit to using sex toys...let alone enjoying them. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 9:51PM Well. In that case. I have never had a toy pussy but if I did, I'd fuck it silly and would have no problems admitting it. It's odd that some men won't even discuss these issues with strangers they've never met and never will. [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 10:45PM It reminds me of this thread. Thousands of views and over 100 posts, but at least 1/4th of the posts are mine. People read it, but very few will post. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 11:04PM Basically, the only reason why I don't have a bunch of sex toys is because - 1. I can't afford them 2. The only store I know of that sells them is about an hour drive from here. Otherwise, I could debate you all day or night on which plastic pussy feels better, fits better, looks more realistic, weighs more/less, etc. I'm not shy about that kind of stuff. Maybe a lot of people buy them mostly as novelties. I don't know. I think an artificial pussy would have to be designed pretty damn well to even hold a candle to the real deal. And that would mean a very expensive toy. Most people just won't drop that kind of cash on a sex toy. Dildos are a bit more simple. Cylindrical, non toxic, washable, smooth. There's your basic dildo. [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 11:08PM This is on the way: Head Honcho Sleeve. I'll post a review on Sex Toy Talk when it arrives. I'm usually turned off by the price of toys, but this was cheap enough for me to take a shot. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 2 2007 : 1:20AM Interesting...... [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 2 2007 : 1:21AM Shit! I thought that said "Head Honcho Steve". And I was thinking "Man That's SO wrong!" [Link]

VStampede Member 82 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jul 5 2007 : 2:33AM yeah I know how this goes... aside from one girl I know, which surprisingly is the one who got me into these things in the first place, only one other girl knows (and likes) the fact that I own sleeves. But I'll admit, I dont think I could so easily talk about this to just anyone... besides, the few times I've even mentioned em I've gotten weird looks so... [Link]
jayo All-Star Member 2117 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 5 2007 : 2:36PM VStampede wrote: yeah I know how this goes... aside from one girl I know, which surprisingly is the one who got me into these things in the first place, only one other girl knows (and likes) the fact that I own sleeves. But I'll admit, I dont think I could so easily talk about this to just anyone... besides, the few times I've even mentioned em I've gotten weird looks so... Click to expand In real life, I understand that completely. But does that apply here on the forum, where nobody knows you from Adam? [Link]