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scipio
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Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 12:13PM
Firstly Apologies to Lunacy and Lindi if it turns out this is the wrong forum to post this in - it's not quite ADVD talk, and not quite World News, (but may well be Nonsense!). Feel free to move this if (in)appropriate.

Shameless - firstly I am not taking the piss out of you, just so you know.

I've read many, many posts by you about the various girls who's services you rent for various amounts of time, and your huge porn consumpton, and it struck me yesterday to make the suggestion to you - why don't you make your own Porn Videos?

Seriously, all you need is a decent digital videocamera. You could spend big for a 3CCD camera for broadcast quality (this is an awesome camera to use) or you could just as easily buy almost any Mini-DV camcorder for pretty good picture quality. Buy some cheap editing software, a good computer and a firewire card and away you go!

You'll also want to get a sample of a model release (very important for age records/verification if you want to release your footage in the U.S.) off someone off these forums. From your work, I assume you can do the translations yourself. Once you have a bunch of footage, again using these forums you could find a way to sell your footage or films.. ;)

Just after hearing the amount you spend, and your praise for these Russian girls that you think could make it big if Woodman or the Ana/Diabolic guys came to your local area, I thought, well, Shameless could probably do it himself with that amount of money to spend.

Of course you wouldn't be doing it every time you hire a girl, but you can set up a camera on a tripod, and from some of your adventures (the "aiming" contest) you don't seem to have much trouble with others around, so you could get a friend into the act as a part-time cameraman or something. Just look at Ed Powers or Rodney Moore for examples of this genre. Actually, from what I read, this sort of thing was how Seymour Butts got into the business. (with thanks to a loan of John Stagliano's camera).

Now I remember what inspired this thought of mine! When you mentioned Wanda Curtis the other day! - I thought if you wanted to "do it" then you may as well REALLY "do it". :D

ok I'll shut up now till your reply,

cheers,

scipio


Edited by - scipio on Jun 13 2003

shameless
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Moscow
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Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 12:52AM
Scipio,
You sure talk of one of my biggest dreams!


BUT...what you suggest is the Woodman-Casting thing: recording myself fucking my escorts/girls with camera on a tripod. Now this is certainly not the quality of porn I would want to produce! We have enough of this amateurish porn-product already here in Russia.
What I would like is high quality gonzo or vignette porn. And to produce this yourself without experience is not that easy. Also, while I sure would like to fuck some of my porn talents (like most porn producers do), I dont dream of being a porn actor. While I have overcome some of my woodproblems with other dicks around, I doubt very much I could stay hard for hours and hours. Fucking escorts is fun, fucking as a porn actor on set I have my doubts.

Sure I could look for capable Russian male actors and hand them over some of my favorite escort girls. Sure many of my escort girls would not mind to earn extra-money that way, also due to additional free advertizing. Sure, I am confident I could come up with some very hot porn settings, I could really garantee dirty dirty hardcore content, I would not shy back from controversial issues like fake-rape or fisting. And sure I would have some of the best dressed, cutest and most willing girls. Sure, my production costs would be a lot cheaper than in US, BUT frankly speaking I am not confident I can provide the world the quality I would ask from such films myself. Plus all the hassle with distribution, duplicating, shipping, customs...!!!!

Still, thanks for your thumbs-up. I still work on this dream. I still keep good contacts to Natalia from the the "aiming" contest . I sure would want her to be one girl of my porn project...but, as said, I am very uncertain as far as all those technical acspects of the business are concerned.

2dvd
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Trading DVDs
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Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 2:11AM
That was the same idea, i was thinking just now.
shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 5:44AM
Sorry, dont understand: What was the same idea?
scipio
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Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 6:37AM
Well, Shameless, the things to bear in mind is that no-one does their very best work as their very first work.

Everyone has to start somewhere, and it's with experience and practice that people learn their craft, whatever it may be. I'm sure you would not be satisfied with your first works, but it's only by doing that you'll improve and learn what you did badly, what you did well, and what you need to work on more.

As a solution to your wood problems with other men around, 2 things come to mind as suggestions:
1) Viagra
2) Book 2 girls, and get them to each do some filming of you with the other.

As far as distribution, shipping, etc etc, I would not even worry about that too much to start with. I think you'd be better ioff to concern yourself with those once you have something ready to go - shot, edited, and ready to put onto a master tape or DVD-R (HDD space is cheap these days after all, but DVD-R space is even cheaper once you make the investment.)

There may be too much of the locally-produced, horrible, amateurish porn product already in your area, but I think most of the other producers would not have access to the knowledge you have here at ADT, and also from what you say, would not care about their product as much as you would seem to.

Other thing to remember, is of course that if you make some scenes that you think are not good enough to release, you can always keep them as your own home movies of your adventures, and so you have a memento and also can use them to improve your future work.

Another option is for you to team up with either a well-built friend of yours who wants to be your "porn guy" or get a local who fits the bill and let him be your main guy in your vids. Like Jake Steed is to Ed Powers.

After all, if Ed Powers can do it, and Dave Cummings can do it, and Rodney Moore can do it, then any of us with enough money and access to good looking girls can.

cheers mate,

scipio

 
brasilfan
Member

130 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jun 15 2003 : 9:31AM
Scipio,

I am not Shameless but my dream is actually doing what you have suggested to him. I am already in the planning stages and I will go to Brazil later this year to final live my dreams. I prefer the Latin and Black girls over Russian girls and as I am fluent in Portuguese and know the country it will be much easier for me. Production cost might be higher than in Russia but I doubt it and do not really care if the result is better.

I have a question though because this is one of the remaining problems and you seem to know more about it: Where do I find a sample of a model release and a model contract which enables me to release my films legally in the US?

Thanks for your help.

Fucking is never as good as you imagined while jacking off!
http://de.photos.yahoo.com/bc/f_erkelchen/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.dnm=brasilfan.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - Jun 15 2003 : 10:16AM
Will you film them condomless? If not, I dont see much sense in producing such porn.
This is still one of my problems, as all medical stuff in my country can easily be bribed.

Still you and Scipio are right: We should all try to live our dreams. I preach the same all the time. And me, too, I sure work on my dream to become more involved into the porn biz myself. I really want the West to be able to enjoy our beautiful and willing girls! It will be a better advertizement for Russia than Putin, the mafia and the wars we fight. But...other problem is, I really dont very much like POV-films.

Well, brasilfan, I wish you all the luck. And have fun!

brasilfan
Member

130 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jun 15 2003 : 2:00PM
Shameless,

thanks for the good wishes.

I agree that condoms would really not make sense and I will only do it without provided a valid and recent test certificate is available. I definitely do not wnat to commit suicide.




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