OK I know Veronica just made a smart post above, and made a good point about ignoring some of the bloggers, but unfortunately for me the post above hers suggested a blog had info about this incident and I had already clicked on it before reading her post. Anyway, on that blog which is mentioned a couple posts above but which I will not bother linking to, it mentions that Sheena texted Rob Black and told him that Stagliano "has his hands deep in the cookie jar". (From this point forward I'll assume that this really happened. I know it's possible that Black lied about receiving a text, but work with me here folks.) Black and/or the writer of the article (it's tough to tell whose view is whose) interprets that text to mean that Stagliano is stealing from someone (the usual meaning of that expression). But reading Veronica's post, and her assertion that Sheena was not in a relationship with Stagliano, makes me think the text has a different meaning. To me, I interpret it, along with her cryptic tweet, to mean that Stagliano is having sex with other porn performers, not Sheena, and the adult talent pool is the cookie jar she's referring to. Further, when she says Stagliano should keep his dick in his pants, she's not saying he cheated on her, she's saying he shouldn't be fucking porn performers, because that makes the whole biz unsafe, which is why she feels the need to retire. That's the only way I can make sense of the tweet, the text, and Veronica's assertion that Sheena was not in a relationship with Stagliano. Now, one can agree or disagree with Sheena's decision. Or one can believe or not believe her claim. But I think this is the most likely meaning of what she said.
^ That would be a reasonable explanation... and it has the advantage that you don't even need to believe Rob Black that he got that text (and I wouldn't believe him or AdultFYI if they tell me that at midnight a new day is gonna start). BTW: do we have any hints that this Sheena-Stagliano relationship existed, besides Mike South's blog? From the way he worded it, he a) got that from someone else, so it's hearsay, but b) believed it himself, so he got it from someone he trusted...: ----------------------------------------------------------------- "[Update To This Story] It seems that Sheena and John had a relationship and this was her way of breaking up….poor choice of wording because an awful lot of people thought that she was indicating that he had either given her HIV or that he had behaved inappropriately in the end its just a lovers spat… --------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess Veronica Avluv's advice not to read any blogs has quite some wisdom in it. Then you don't have to rack your brains who is when honest or dishonest and credible or not etc. But on the other hand, where are the really credible news sources?
+1 but i have to say it really hurt my feelings as a true admirer of buttman. Of course i don´t know anyone in the business in person but if "the man" the "buttman" the "icon" starts to fuck up it´really time to leave Cube ... not amused
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Posted - Aug 9 2013 : 4:11PM
While it's always amusing to read people's speculations about my personal life, I'll put one speculation to rest. John and I are still married, still together. We have 2 kids and 2 cats. We're happily planning a much-needed family vacation together that we'll be taking next month. Other than that, I don't like to discuss other people that I don't personally know.
It's all speculation right now. For myself, I will wait to hear from Sheena (if she posts or tweets) to get the real lowdown. In the mean time I tip my hat to the lovely Sheena Shaw. I wish her the best and will appreciate what she has thusfar given, and will support her by purchasing titles she appears in should she return.
I can tell you that more than a few performers took her tweet to mean that John had infected her with HIV. Which I of course told them was close to impossible and that her tweet had a different meaning.
^ I think almost everyone initially took it to mean that John had infected her with HIV. It seems that's not the case, so it was a poorly worded tweet. Unless that's the impression she wanted to give (for reasons I can't guess).
She is great performer, but she always seemed a bit loopey and i always tought if i ever meet her, better not piss her off. I really hope its just some personal problems between the two. As it would be fucked up if John would actually be that irresponsible that he would fuck any girl who dont have HIV already. He really seems like he wouldnt be that dumb tought.
^killbillvol69 you make some very good points in your post,it is all speculation as far as us fans go and we might never know the truth.What is to stop someone spreading rumors that John has been fucking some porn girls,when confronted the girls would deny it as would John and the old saying "If you throw enough mud some of it will stick" comes to mind. Of course im only giving my opinion and in an ideal world Sheena would still be in porn and John would be shooting too.
^There's also another old saying which is less favorable than yours and it's that: Where there's smoke there's fire. I don't know if yours is the correct one or if mine is because I honestly don't have a clue what Sheena meant and no one is coming forward with any actual real facts. All we are left with is speculation. The only thing we seem to know is that Sheena is no longer in the industry and her parting words don't paint a nice picture of John.
Come on guys, think: if Stagliano really wanted risky sex would he pick someone who (1) could unequivocally ID him in a police lineup or court, and (2) would definitely be having an HIV test soon anyway? A better guess is she was trying to get a deal with an EA director -many pictures or even a contract - and John stepped in and vetoed it.
I just don't get why Sheena felt the need to be so cryptic/vague in her last message. Even if she didn't want to go into details about what John did or what she thinks he did she could've been more specific about what made her decide to go. In any cse....if she has friends in porn she's still in contact with I'm sure we'll get more details soon. When a girl decides to leave porn because she's had enough or wants to move on I have no trouble with it but it's messed up when a girl decides to leave sooner than they intended because of stupid stuff. Edited by - draxxx on 8/10/2013 9:40:15 AM
sometimes it may be better not to write anything while you are in hulk_mode ... i know what i´m talking about. I had some serious trouble at hand when i wrote some "nice" stuff to the wrong people at work eg. Cube
I'm not going to get into the speculation because I know nothing but the speculation of others, but I would like to wish Sheena all the best in going forward in life. She was an amazing performer who could do things that would literally leave your jaw sitting on the floor...all while maintaining a sexy mystique. While it's sad to see another favorite of mine make an early exit (i.e. Brooklyn Lee, Sasha Grey, etc.), I do hope the best for her and am sure that she'll be successful in whatever she does in the future.
Is she in Europe now? True or False? (don't know),I hope everything is okay....see the link below [mod edit: link removed. We don't need to help those guys. They're enemies of the porn industry and gladly endanger the lives of those in it.] also check out Lisa Ann's twitter account...she talked about another porn industry scandal but with no names Lisa Ann's Twitter Account Edited by - killbillvol69 on 8/12/2013 1:16:14 PM
The Europe one has got to be bullshit. I feel stupid for reading it. Lisa Ann's tweets refer to a male performer listed on LA Direct so that's some other thing.
I am not accepting the fact that Sheena has retired! She will come back very soon. She just needs to kick Stagliano in his nuts (whatever reason it may be). and c'mon guys.. stop saying that she was in a relationship with Stagliano! There is no way that she is so dumb to begin a relationship with a HIV infected man!
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on a sidenote ... i hope that everyone who talks so "nice" about people with hiv never finds himself on the "other side" respect for other people seems to be a dying thing Cube
Drecksau, the problem as I understand it, is Sheena originally twittered a tweet that stated John Stagliano should have kept his penis in his pants which sort of implied they had some kind of sexual incident. Knowing his medical history several industry people contacted her and then she said something that implied it was some sort of business disagreement with John and nothing of a sexual matter. She may have been angry for some reason, but firing off something like that was (to me) irresponsible. I'm not sure she is actually retired because it appears the tweet was just a response made in anger. She may or may not have been justified, but doing what she did I would think could make producers leery of her just sending out an inflammatory tweet. The business is on shaky ground as it is and there seems to be plenty of gorgeous newbies willing to take her place for work.
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Posted - Aug 17 2013 : 7:38AM
I don't really care about what exactly the reason was. I am 100% sure about the fact that she DID NOT had sex with Stagliano. She simply can't be so dumb. And if it was some business thing.. i am sorry for her but there are always ups and downs in business. But still a dick move from Stagliano. What the heck is Stagliano still doing in the industry anyways? It's not just about business here. He is HIV+. He needs to get the hell outta there! If you hire and see hot and young girls getting banged in front of your camera day for day for day, it's gonna make you horny and you start to convince some of them of having (protected) sex with you and there is no 100% protection... so just look for another job! There have been rumors that he did that and this is what might have pissed Sheena off. And i honestly don't think that a newbie would be so dirty and slutty (in the most beautiful way) as sheena was/is/will be in her scenes. There are/were very few performers like Sheena. For example: Dana Dearmond, Bobbi Starr, Sasha Grey... Yeah so i am still not ready to accept the fact that she has ultimately retired. I truly hope that she comes back after she has calmed down. Sheena is so beautiful. She really needs to come back for the fans. I was so devastated when Jenna Haze announced her retirement. I don't want to go through all of this again...
Sheena's twitter account has been deleted. This doesn't look good for those of us hoping for a comeback. I was hoping for some eventual clarification of the facts from Sheena, but this seems unlikely.
IF Sheena is done its not like she hasn't left a boat load of scenes to enjoy.I mean I've watched plenty of her scenes and there are still a fair few i haven't yet got to.
^ so what u saying is that x pornstars like Carmen, Brianna etc are gonna return when they in their late 30s to 40s yeah I highly doubt that
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Posted - Aug 21 2013 : 11:17AM
^&^^&^^^ And even if they did return years later, is it a good idea? Using myself as an example, I was a studly athlete back in my playing days and looked good in pictures. 25 years later, even though I've kept up with myself, given the choice of seeing my 20 year old self and my 45 year old self naked on the screen, I'm opting for the 20 year old. Porn stars from 20-25-30 years ago coming back today because they have money issues isn't hot, it's just sad, and not always pretty. I mourn the loss of Sheena as a scene with Bonnie would have been epic, but life and porn goes on.
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Posted - Aug 21 2013 : 11:44AM
Well, since you more or less are implying that you're in the know, care to shed some light on the situation?
That is true but more often then not they do return. They go from making great money to minimum wage and it wakes them up to return to porn. Lifestyles are hard to change when the fix is just a phone call away. The odds of her returning are higher then not returning. Even Raylene returned......Sheena isn't gone forever. She is just cooling off.
Oh you big tease Christian ha ha,your punishment will be the next Strap Attack movie you do and the girl uses tabasco sauce as lube before she sets about your cornhole :)
Pornstars like Ginger Lynn, Lisa Ann, Raylene, Inari Vachs, Briana Banks, Devon, etc. have returned to porn, so it is possible. Edited by - matchmaker on 8/22/2013 2:33:39 AM
^ well difference between all the girls u just named & the ones I named are their generations of when they started, I'm not sure but they probably was already consider as milf when they left & Carmen wasn't doing porn long enough to want to come back & Brianna she has a daughter so she probably living somewhere happily with her family. Like some other x pornstars. So u think bree Olson & Sasha grey gonna come back some day I guess?
^I think about all of the pornstars I named were in their 20s when they first retired. ^There's a chance that either could return someday, but I could see Bree Olson returning to porn before Sasha Grey.
^ I doubt sasha would want to return since she implied that porn"ruined her life"(if you believe what james deen said in that interview) as far as bree goes hasn't she started back hanging with charlie sheen again..?
