New Pornstar Interviews - [more]
Introducing Lady LorReign

"Good oral on me turns me on. Also, knowing that my partner is enjoying themself,"
All Forums > Tech Talk > Tech Talk Forum Page 38 > Shooting gear & producing vids
AuthorPost
yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 4:16AM
I am thinking about getting into amateur porn, perhaps become the first Asian pornstar. I think I have some chance because I have a decent physique, hung like at least as well as the average white guy and I have a great girl to work with. I have done some private stills. I plan to shoot a few scenes in POV and I am wondering what sort of video equipment most directors may use, specific brands & models would be useful. I also have the cash to produce some mainstream porn too and I wonder how I could get a foothold into this aspect. What sort of profits am I likely to make?

Topic Moved by - hardware on Nov 25 2006

Eric381
Deactivated User

What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 4:05PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but "first Asian pornstar"? Didn't West Coast have a guy they used for their "West Coast Gangbangs" for a while?

Everyone wants to be a pornstar, lol.

I'd say you're looking at least about $3k just for a decent camera.

Edited by - Eric381 on 11/19/2006 7:04:50 PM
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 4:09PM
cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 5:42PM
You'll have to compete with Hung Lo and his Chinese banter


Cal444
Somewhere thinklin

yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 20 2006 : 7:09AM
Eric I'm not asking you what you think my chances are. I know I've got the goods & several hot white chicks that take it up the ass, eat ass & swallow cum. I already own 30k of camera gear so 3k is small fry for me. Tony thanks for the tip. I also am interested in production and have the cash to be a backer of films.
 
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Nov 20 2006 : 4:29PM

You wont listen to me but trust me You aregoing to take a bath


TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 20 2006 : 4:30PM
Indeed! Proper hygiene is key to POV success!
Eric381
Deactivated User

What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 20 2006 : 6:54PM
There ya go...

Then again, Mike...maybe he will listen?? Naaahhh.

yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 21 2006 : 4:21AM
Once again, I am not interested in the opinions of little insignificant specks regarding whether I succeed or fail. Please keep replies limited to the question at hand : production, video equipment. PS everything I touch turns to gold and this will be no exception.
RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Nov 21 2006 : 12:34PM
You sound straight Asian Dude so I'll offer my two cents...pity some of the other jokers are so disrespectful of any one trying to follow their dreams as you are. Although I have to suggest that Mike South's cleanliness statement may be closest to the mark. This industry is fully glutted and to make it you have to be possessed with more than a few talent connections and money in the bank.

It really doesn't matter what camera you buy since there are so many great ones made now. For the last couple of years a number of companies have been shooting in HD (mostly HDV) to have content for the impending consumer switch to HD TV's. If you are forward thinking then you should do the same. Tony's suggestion of the Anima camera was a sly joke. That is a very expensive movie film camera meant to get into small places. For HDV you have a growing number of suitable options. I heard (not completely up on it yet) that there is a brand new format, similar to HDV (I think they're still calling it that, but the format has differences from the original) that is better. I would highly suggest Canon's line and I know that they have new models with the newer format. Panasonic makes a killer camera - the HVX-200 - but it is very pricey when you get all the storage bells and whistles. But any camera that is small and with 3-CCD's will be workable (for POV, choose the ones that have a flip out LCD and top handle).

Lighting is also pretty standard and wide open to many options. The industry choice are florescent fixtures that are color-balanced to the other lighting available. The most pricey but sweetest rigs are made by a company called Kino-Flo. But most other company's have similar banks of lights. (Do you understand the concept of color-balance?)

There are many many many more things to considers before getting wet (hmmm). If you have a ton of cash and the midas touch, you should get a hold of an honest straight industry vet like me, to counsel you on the way. They all may laugh, but if your dream is overpowering and your disposable income huge, you can do anything.

However, for anyone to offer you feedback into your proposed return profit scenario...there are just plain too many variables to determine first. Distribution is the big nut to crack...some self-starters just ply their craft over the net, starting paysites and purely self-distribute. But even that world requires mastery of the tools needed to make it. Good luck.

Edited by - RichB on 11/21/2006 12:38:59 PM

Eric381
Deactivated User

What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 21 2006 : 5:27PM
Ummm, nevermind...not worth my time.

Edited by - Eric381 on 11/21/2006 6:56:33 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 21 2006 : 7:21PM
Emo.
Eric381
Deactivated User

What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 21 2006 : 10:32PM
I wish my lawn were emo, so it would cut itself.
bauer024
Senior Member

It is what it is
1345 Posts
12/05
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 6:51AM
i knew eric was a emo lmao

As for yellow i wish you the best man if ivan is around here i will aks him to stop in and give you a pointer or two he does great stuff .......


eric you emo


dan

Comet Man
Member

Boston
96 Posts
4/01
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 9:16AM
I thought the standard was Arri lights for video work? At least that's what I found when I was researching how to do a commercial for my company a while back. They're hotlights so you don't have to worry about the color issues w/ fluorescent lights (the Kinoflo's are the best fluorescents though).

For a videocam, I thought the Canon XL2 was good enough (though only 1080i), but there are lots of of others that are 1080p now. Videocams and lights can be rented by the day, but past a week or so, it's probably not worth it:
http://www.rule.com/category.cfm?categoryID=1

 
RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 12:07PM
Comet Man - Arri lights are just another brand and make both daylight (5600 Kelvin, outdoor, blue) balanced and tungsten (3200 Kelvin, indoor, orange). Believe me when I tell you, they do not hold up to wear and tear like some other brands. The florescent lights are great (many company's make fixtures for them) because you can simply pull the tubes and replace with the other color-balanced tube needed AND they offer that big fill shadowless source. There is no such thing as one bulb/tube doing both color temp's...yet (though gels can be put on either the camera lens or light to match the desired temp - reducing the light exposure/output). And as for "hot lights", all that means to me is that they'll heat up the room, which any tungsten is known to do (they waste tons of energy). Again, the florescent light is very energy efficient and does not cook the talent.

Maybe when you said hot light, you meant hard light. In porn, the preferred choice is soft light, so that there are as few shadows as possible. Gonzo dudes love a big natural sources (read windows) and supplement with a few Kino's. They will sometimes even blast the soft light into the ceiling to try and soften the source more. Hard light is from a strong direct light source...sometimes even the light has a lens to focus the light even more (fresnel). This creates shadows which adds mood but sucks when your talent moves an inch and puts the goods in the dark. Either color-balanced type lamp will offer hard or soft, depending what smutz (diffusion) you put in front of it or (white card) bounce it off of.... Sure are lottsa' smutz's around here. Not you Comet Man.

Edited by - RichB on 11/22/2006 12:17:34 PM

prototype
Member

Bad Taste
113 Posts
6/06
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 12:25PM
I hope it goes well for you yellow peril!

Dont let other people get to you and try to knock you down.

JimGunn
Member

Where The Teens Are
173 Posts
1/02
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 2:40PM
RichB's lighting advice has to be the best I have ever read on a forum like this.
RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 6:20PM
That's mighty nice of you Mr. Gunn! Your work and career is highly respected and admired.

You never know who might truly deserve the help...I sure had enough people helping me along the way. Gotta' give back every once in awhile.

Yellow Peril doesn't seem to be checking back into his own post, but he'd sure learn a lot just by going to your site and reading your bio. Cheers!

yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 8:10AM
RichB, thank you very much for your comments, just the sort of useful information I was looking for. I haven't been able to check into my own thread for a while due to work commitments. Mind you most of the replies I received initially were from narrow minded individuals with no useful contributions. I have some ideas of the technical aspects & lighting due to my involvement in photography and I learn fast, turned pro 1 year after holding a camera for the first time. With regards to personal hygiene in POV, I am somewhat obsessive-compulsive about this, so it will work to my advantage. One of the girls I will use tosses my salad a half hour at a time, my ass is so clean!
RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 1:19PM
Mmmm...the comments made about bathing were to suggest you are going to loose your shirt. And that doesn't mean you're going to be shirtless, shoe-less and toothless, but more likely than not, going to go broke. Definitely look at your business plan deeply and grant yourself at least a couple years before seeing any potential profit.

Also, be aware that there are occasional STD (sexually transmitted diseases) outbreaks that coarse through the entire industry and no matter how many times you shower, you're fucked. Some do not go away, although there are series of shots available to protect yourself (Hepatitis and HPV). You sure you want to go through with this...?

yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 10:05PM
Yes I am aware of all the STD's that exist and potential measures for prophylaxis against them. I am only intending to use myself for the odd scene, I am not so arrogant or egotistical to think I can carry this through as my self as the main male talent. This will also reduce my exposure to STDs. As to people thinking I am going to go broke, are they so stupid as to think I reached my current financial position by committing my entire worth into dodgy projects like this? And yes I am familiar with the figurative term 'to take a bath', I was referring to TonyC's clever quip about personal hygiene.
Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Nov 25 2006 : 12:16PM
Hi yellow peril,

this month it is exactly 10 years that I started porn and I never regretted my decision. Go for it!!!

RichB's advices were very precise. Although I wouldn't use a HDV camera for POV. I have one but I use my old Sony VX2000 for POV. 16:9 is not a POV friendly format and the cameras are heavy.

Steve Holmes

yellow peril
Member

13 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 25 2006 : 4:20PM
Wow 10 years in porn and already a legend. Yes, I have done some experimentation in POV and it is difficult. There is surely very little in the world more difficult than holding a camera while there is a girl jerking you into her mouth. Trying to get a good angle while she is eating ass is also problematic, an activity which you seem to enjoy a lot in your scenes. Thank you Steve for your advice & congratulations on the milestone.
melpster
Member

582 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 25 2006 : 4:25PM
I completely forgot that this was your 10 year anniversary. What a dreadful fangirl I've been!

Happy Anniversary, Mr. Holmes. It's safe to say I'm extremely grateful that you've never regretted that decision!

 
Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Nov 27 2006 : 12:55PM
Hi Melissa,

I love your new avatar!

Steve Holmes

Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Nov 27 2006 : 5:31PM
POV is probably the most difficult to shoot. After working for some Italian producers where the scene takes 10 hours.

Steve Holmes

All Forums > Tech Talk > Tech Talk Forum Page 38Shooting gear & producing vids

Previous topic: Trackball trouble
Next topic: Here comes Internet Explorer 7



Jump To: