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M vanHouten
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 5:02PM
I should grow up?
I'm a grown man from Europe who hardly speaks English ever. But when I write something on an English speaking forum, I try the best I can.
You however are a young child (who apparently doesn't remember Michael Jackson and lives with his parents) who writes in a backward dialect that is very hard to understand.
Wat zou er gebeuren als iedereen maar in zijn eigen dialect zou gaan schrijven? Een babylonische spraakverwarring zou het gevolg zijn. ( <- that's me writing in my dialect )
So please. Write in English, use proper grammar and spell-check your posts.
Croc
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 5:31PM
D: If you believe that what is between Kardishian sisters and their athletes is necessarily love, you still have much to learn. Also, you forgot Tiger and Elin.
Because race exists (as a social fact, not necessarily in terms of biology) and reproduces through physical reproduction. And then there's this dumb one drop rule. Barack Obama was brought to this world by a white woman, raised mostly by a white couple, socialized in white institutions, intellectually influenced by white thinkers. He doesn't even really look black. The only thing that's black about him is pretty much the genetic material from his father's sperm. Yet, he's the first black POTUS. Now, if his mother had conceived him by a white father he would be white and it wouldn't matter how ghetto he would act or whatever. This is why fucking a black guy can't mean the same thing as fucking a white guy. Ironically, this is also the reason why certain white guys crave IR porn so much.
Edited by - Croc on 2/10/2010 5:32:07 PM
Master D
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516 Posts
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 6:24PM
Dude I am 19 and you need to chill out. Don't want to started a fight and plan not to get into one. i am not that good with spelling and you want to make fun of me. I hate it when people make fun of me because it show no respect for me.
Edited by - Master D on 2/10/2010 6:26:09 PM
Stud_Rob
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 6:34PM
I think what Brazzers decides to do with their site is up to them. It's not like they haven't tried. If it isn't working out for them then it's their decision not to maintain an IR site, plenty of others around to cater to needs. It ain't the end of the world and as Bramm said they do release the occasional IR scene.
 
Master D
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 6:54PM
Not true, there are IR fans who are black guys but you don't see it. Are you going to hate me because I grew up on IR parents because my father is black and my step mom is white. My step brother and sister have been pick on because there parents are different. My 13 year old step brother understand it but not my 7 year old step sister doesn't. But sometime then I go out with my famliy we sometimes get dirty looks froms blacks or whites. But my 13 year old step brother have white and black friends and they do come over to my parent house to played video games and there parent of the kids trust them now my real mother is light skin.
Master D
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 7:23PM
Well if you want a better IR site that have the same things Brazzers does then some ones is going to step it up. Did you know that Brazzers doesn't feature black woman too so something isn't right, well we lived in a world were racism happen and it everywhere. Well MLK JR fought for civil rights in the 50's and 60's and this month we have black history month which most of these girl who did porn have to write a report on a famous black person when they were in school or did they drop out btw? If MLK Jr was alive today he would be shame on because he had a dream that all races come together as one. If MLK Jr wouldn't been shot then thing would be different and he would run for President in 1980. Well IR fan only have Blacks on Blondes which is good but not as lacking like Brazzers is. Unless someone can do an IR website that have the samething like Brazzers and stay way from the sterotype then it could be good.
Irex
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 11:35PM
Two points. First, the girls you've mentioned who do IR on their site. Phoenix Marie did about four and has put it on the back burner for some time now. Priya Rai? One scene, for her website- hardly mass consumption... Shyla Stlyez just started again in the last year. they have several like Eva, Courtney, Lisa Ann, and Julia Ann, but shall I name many of the girls who DON'T do wf/bm IR?
Alexis texas, Rachel Roxxx, Rachel Starr, Sienna West, Audrey Bitoni, Carmella Bing, dylan rider, diamond foxxx, abbey rode, nikki benz, memphis monroe, tanya james, lezley zen,amy ried, austin kincaid, ava lauren, holly halston,etc.
Now I don't just put these names here because there are a lot because as you check the listings the numbers do start to get to about the same average for porn in general with bm/wf percentages. These women share an interesting distinction.
These are the highest rated women on brazzers sites.
There are a smattering of IR stars among the mix in the top, I won't deny, but their highest rated stars are for the most part the ones who don't do IR.
And yes, porn is EXACTLY like a bigot that doesn't want to anyone to point it out. Most people are exactly like that.
Have you met anyone who likes having their shortcomings or narrowmindedness pointed out to them?
Look Brazzers is all but saying "there may be money in wf/bm IR but we just can't be bothered to make it."
So why not try to get someone who is actively interested in the genre and wants to do a good job of it to make the damn money?
realtip
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 5:33AM
^Brazzers does have a fair share of girls who have never done IR. But if it had an IR site, it's not like it would be impossible to hire talent for it. There seems to be more girls in the industry who do IR than who don't. I'm not saying that Brazzers has to do an IR site if it believes that it doesn't work. But going by what I've been reading here, it just doesn't sound like there's any good reason to believe it wouldn't work if they decided to do one and stick with it.
We all know that race exists. But what does that have to do with the constant focusing on it? Aren't we supposed to be past that by now?
Also, although I hate to get off topic, did you really say that Barack Obama "doesn't even really look black?" Really? What does he look like to you? The fact that he looks like a black man is exactly the reason that it's so easy for everyone to forget the half of him that isn't. True, he is biracial, which would still be the case if the races of his parents were reversed. As for the "one-drop" rule which has been outdated for years, I'll just comment to say that rule was created by white people, not blacks, as a way of keeping the white race "pure." Although I'd like to say that none of this has anything to do with the stupid standards of interracial sex in porn, there are apparently still people holding on the foolish idea that IR sex is still somehow more illicit and sordid than "regular" sex.
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 6:07AM
They should banned them for racist comment like other forums does. It not nice to called somebody the N-Word. If that was a white person calling the n-word to a group of black people then he would be in a bodybag. We are still dealing with raciam in adult industry and even in this country the fact that we have a black president in the white house.
Croc
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 7:26AM
Realtip, have you ever been to America? The one drop rule is anything but outdated. And if you look carefully at Obama's face you'll notice more features typical for European people than those typical for black African. Yet, he is black because one of his parents is black. The point I'm trying to make here is that white race in America can survive as long as there are white girls choosing to have sex with white men. Therefore, having sex with a black partner is not the same thing as having black friends. And because pornography is all about sex, it can never be truly colorblind.
Bramm_Brazzers
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Do you see what happens, Larry?
125 Posts
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 8:33AM
Gonna try to answer a bunch at once here...
Look, the reality is that IR just doesn't work for us. We tried and it just doesn't work.
We understand that IR is a big market and everything, but i guess it just doesn't fit into our network.
I honestly doubt that some of our older interracial stuff will ever make it to dvd since they were all shot in gonzo style, and we are now only produce reality based content.
As far as the the forums go, there isn't really any racist comments on there...a lot of the racist stuff could be found on scene comments. We're firm believers in freedom of speech, but if there are some really racist comments on there we usually try to remove them, it's just difficult to keep track of every single scene's comments.
Finally, just to clarify, it's not only comments that we base our decisions on...if we decide not to shoot IR, it's also because of ratings, number of views, how well a scene sells...etc If we don't see it to be marketable for our network, then we wont invest in having it produced. I'm not saying that it's not marketable at all, i do agree that it is a fairly large niche.
And on a side note, I do agree that the term "interracial" is the wrong term to use for this, but at this time its the best way of referring to BM/WF without going into detail. It's sort of become the standard in this industry.
terroboyd
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 10:17AM
I really dont think they made that much money from the black guy/white girl porn they made. Seriously I think some people need to learn what IR falls under and stop categorizing it with anything that has to do with black and white.
But anyway continue "LOLZ Brazzers shud make an IR series because they can get rich quick and sex up lots of white girls"
Also IR isn't that popular but thats a whole different argument.
Seijuro
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 10:46AM
Correction one of his parents is African. Because of that I think he should be considered as black as any African American. Black Americans are typically a mix of races but the majority is African hence 'African American'. Barack doesn't look black? C'mon dude. The darkened lips, the wide nose, skin tone that only the darkest of Europeans have, his hair, darkened gums, the African name. Do you think if he were just a civilian that people would consider him "that white guy" or "that black guy"? Trust me in the 1800s he would not be walking around as a free man. Actually Barack in some ways reminds me of younger version of the guy in the last pic.
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Seijuro
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 11:10AM
@Bramm
Well in the 1950-60s Blacks and Whites going to the same schools, using the same restrooms/ fountains, etc. didn't work for a lot of people. However, over time and relatively quickly it became a norm and even totally accepted. The point is to put it out there for it to catch on. You never know, maybe a lot of your viewers now don't get into BM/WF porn but putting it on your site could bring in new people that do. Its like anchovies on pizza, though many hate them they manage to stay on the menu because someone seems to buy them. If white girls fucking black guys were such a problem then Gianna, Julia Ann, Lisa Ann, Shyla, etc, would not be among your most popular girls. I would even bet that a number don't like BM/WF because of the low quality, ghetto guy stalking the poor white girl crap that unfortunately exists. I'm a black guy and I can't stand that shit. Plus, its not like truly anti-IR members are going to leave Brazzers because there will something for them too.
 
Croc
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 11:49AM
Repeating the same logical fallacies and flawed arguments over and over won't make them any less false, I'm afraid.
Seijuro
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:08PM
What I'm saying is there is an audience for everything so why not put IR on Brazzers? The only thing that will happen is it will bring in a new demographic that want to see it and that equals more money. I'm not banking on it changing anyone's mind on their racial preferences. Those that don't like IR probably won't watch it, but they won't leave Brazzers b/c the scenes they prefer are still there. In terms of low ratings, of course those that don't like IR rate the scenes low but why not try attracting those that do? Bringing in a new option while keeping the others never hurts any business. It'll either improve or stay the same.
Seijuro
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:11PM
Ok, yes creating IR does cost money, but I really believe bringing in new members that like it will justify it.
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:35PM
Well I see why I cancelled my membership not because you do IR because of the racist comment. Look like IR fans are going to email Lexington Steele or Jules Jordan for a better IR realty based content. But you have a problem with the word interracial, do you think it is a sin or it is a bad word. But as for IR fans the best way is to support companies that do IR and buy there movies and maybe one day we could get an reality based IR website like Brazzers.
Edited by - Master D on 2/11/2010 12:53:10 PM
Bluto
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:36PM
For every new member, they lose 10.
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:41PM
I don't agree with on IR isn't poupler, But have you look at the AVN Top 10 and there is an IR movies on there too.
Seijuro
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 12:52PM
Are saying that if Brazzers adds IR for every new member "they" WILL lose 10? If so how do you know? That is merely your opinion which you are entitled to. All you can know is what you will do so don't make baseless, backwards generalizations about everyone.
Stalag
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 1:00PM
Probably not 10, but they would definitely lose 5.
ninja1
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 1:02PM
How do you know this?
The 10-to-1 ratio sounds highly bogus to me.
In my experience 90% of porn is crap, and if something is good enough for me to buy a subscription, it must be pretty good, though admittedly, no site is perfect. So, one or two "dud" scenes won't make me cancel my subscription, because the sad truth is that there aren't many alternative sites that can do much better. I can't believe that the Brazzers members who complained about IR scenes are 100% in love with EVERY (non-IR) scene that Brazzers released. The nature of website membership is that a few scenes will be great, most scenes will be OK or so-so, and some scenes will be total crap. That's just the way it is.
But...there are a few sites I have joined just to download 2 or 3 scenes, just because I considered those to be must-have scenes. If $20 for 2-3 worthwhile scenes is good enough for me to justify a DVD purchase, then $20 for 2-3 worthwhile scenes from a paysite is good enough too.
Ramsey
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 2:27PM
There are already enough good companies with great BM/WF content. It's better to join those sites instead of giving your money to those thieves at Brazzers.
 
noballsbitch
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 2:30PM
It's the wrong standard and anybody with half a conscious will create another standard. Either way, I agree, we don't need Brazzers for this and I don't understand why some keep begging you guys for it. Have some pride, you morons. The answer has been given and BM/WF will simply be distributed by somebody else. Damn. Talk about about beating a dead horse.
FadeToBlack
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 2:32PM
^^ What Ramsey said. There are indeed plenty of sites supporting that content. Although its frankly ridiculous to think that any site which is ultimately trying to be a central hub for online porn (which Brazzers at one point said was its goal) is going to completely cede such a popular part of the market to competitors...
realtip
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 3:32PM
I see what you're saying. It makes sense that if something isn't working for your network, then you wouldn't bother investing in it. However, as someone on the outside looking in, I have my own views as to why it may not be working. I think it could work if done right. Frankly, I think ever since the decline of B&B and R&B, the IR attempts by Brazzers have left much to be desired.
The porn industry has to understand that being IR is not enough to make a scene good and watchable. It still has to be a decently hot scene with talented performers. I have to admit that I haven't been liking some of the IR scenes done by Brazzers, and I wouldn't watch some of them. So, in my opinion as a viewer, I think it doesn't work for you because it hasn't been done with quality, not because it happens to be IR. If the network bothered to do it well, with the same amount of attention and quality given to the scenes on the other sites, then perhaps Brazzers wouldn't have a problem with making it work for its network. If you just put up any old thrown-together IR scenes, then No, it won't work.
The "one drop" rule is just as outdated and erroneous as all the other racist ideas that once pervaded society. It was created as simply one of numerous means of perpetuating a racial caste system in America in which rights and privileges were bestowed only to white people at the exclusion of everyone else. Fortunately, things have improved since then, though much more improvement is obviously still needed. The "one drop" rule has since been discarded along with every other racist fallacy. I don't doubt that there are still people who believe in the notion that one drop of blood determines who one is as a human being. But there are also still people who believe that women should stay at home barefoot and pregnant, or that a white woman who has sex with a black man is spoiled for life regardles of how many dozens of degenerate white men she fucks. Go figure. But I wouldn't put much stock into what these people think.
As far as IR goes, we're talking about porn here, not survival of the races. I doubt if any of these girls are in porn because they want to be ethnic progenitors. I also don't know why you believe that people can never be colorblind in choosing sexual partners. I am. Almost everyone I know is. If you are racially colorblind in all other areas, then there's no reason that you wouldn't also be colorblind in choosing sexual or romantic partners. Conversely, if you are someone who sees other people only for what color they are, then you'll probably do the same thing in choosing partners. I don't think most people are that way. Porn could easily be colorblind if that's what those both inside and outside the industry wanted it to be. But they don't. Race is only an issue because people make it an issue. There are some people who are so deeply entrenched into their backwards ways of racial thinking that they insist on projecting their irrational fears onto everyone else. Somehow, these peple are getting to have too much of an influence on porn.
shalalin
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 3:34PM
I have no idea what the actual bottom line effects would be, but at a more general level I think the statement is pretty close to accurate: Although, generally speaking many porn network comment boards are teeming with people who seem to take it as a personal insult and scream about wasting their money whenever a single scene out of dozens in a given month fails to conform 100% to their personal fetishes, the Brazzers anti-IR crowd are far and away the worst anywhere. For whatever reason, the "IR haters" there are much more rabid than any other anti-something group even among Brazzers' own subscriber base (anal, DP, lez, teens, small tits, etc. etc.), and comment threads on IR scenes often degenerate into racist hate-fests almost immediately, especially on BM/WF scenes.
Even if featuring more IR content would be a financial net positive for Brazzers (and I'm iffy on whether it would be), they may well think that the reputation hit they take from not having an IR site is much less than the hit they obviously take anytime the anti-IR part of their fanbase is dragged to the forefront. Those guys just can't fathom the "it's only one site among many on the network, just ignore it if you don't like the content" idea. Seriously, anybody who was a member during the Teens Like It Black release knows exactly why Brazzers is shying away from doing another dedicated IR site.
Stud_Rob
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 4:28PM
Is that so...?
Diamond Jackson scene
Eve Madison scene
And that's just for tomorrow!
I think you are taking this a bit out of proportion just because something isn't quite fulfilling your full on needs. Nothing is perfect, but Brazzers are trying. It's their site they will do as they please and what is best and works for them. We can suggest things as fans but we don't really have the right to lecture.
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 4:46PM
You are right, if you don't like that Brazzers is doing them don't spend the money on it. Like you said there good companies IR website that are more for IR fan to enjoy.
ultimate_dap_fan
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 5:38PM
no they shouldn't , interracial is overrated , a cock is a cock , how is the color important ????????????
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 7:08PM
Dude you hate IR or someting. BTW I am in an interracial relationship so you called me overrated.
Irex
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 8:22PM
I get what you're saying in theory. The problem is people are turned on by what they're turned on by. Your argument is like saying an eighty year old chick is the same as a twenty year old, after all a pussy is just a pussy, right?
Why is the age important?
We discriminate for hundreds of reasons, from hair color to weight, to height, to everything you can think of.
Turn-ons don't have to make sense. Why do some guys like feet? Why do some men lick heels? Why do some men wear panties when they fuck?
In reality, none of these odd things should be important, none of it is required for sex. Yet people like it.
So why fight it? If people want to see a black cock or an eighteen year old girl or anything that floats their boat, as long as they're not hurting anybody it's somewhat of a pointless question to ask why...
Master D
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Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 8:59PM
^Yeah people like different things and just like people like an NFL team. Like he is saying nobody isn't getting shot or killed, because it is an fanstay. People have different taste in porn some like IR, some like anal, some even like gay porn (well not everybody). We like to see our favorite NFL team win the Super Bowl but they don't make it every year, I was upset that my Giants didn't make the playoff this year but they are still my team.
[mod edit: unnecessary quote removed. please review etiquette and the expected use of quotations on this forum. thanks.]
Edited by - savoy on 2/11/2010 10:22:13 PM
 
HarryPalms
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Posted - Feb 12 2010 : 7:02PM
Thing is they do not depend on members ratings and comments when determining whether something works or not. Don't forget they have access to the raw data: sign ups, conversion rate, customer retention rate...all these numbers are being analyzed regularly and they don't lie. For example twistys, another popular site, recently featured Tori Black as their "Treat of the Month". She was the first treat in twistys who had sex with a black guy (Tee Reel) in one of her Treat of the Month videos. As a result, the sign ups fell faster than Obama's approval numbers, despite all Miss Black's undeniable qualities. They only picked up after the IR portion was removed from the trailer.
It's clear that there's an important group of porn consumers who don't want to see white girls having sex with black guys. Therefore, brazzers would loose a lot by having an IR site, which is more likely why they don't have it. They had some in the past probably because they did not understand the market very well.
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To respond to this topic and the the above post - I am a member of Twisty's and the IR isn't the problem it's the type of IR- I love Tori Black- Twisty's isnt reinventing the wheel they are just doing what Playboy wont do- Shooting Hot Chicks in Porn Sexy - showing pink and insertion- Hustler is a littly too dirty for my taste at times and the girls arent as cute.Twisty gives a male fantasy style porn- Some guys want to see pretty girls looking pretty- The Problem with the Tori Black Scene( Not that I had a problem with it) was that it was shot like a porno gonzo movie scene/ you had all these beautiful pictures of her - then a rough hardcore scene of her acting like the groupie of some rapper- It was just silly-and the trailer was all about her wanting black dick- it was stupid on there part to think thats the only way to shoot IR. Tori is one of the prettiest girl on the site- and that does IR so it's like they decided to shoot a crazy gonzo IR scene to capitalize on that - and they failed- if the scene was just her hooking up with some fantsy guy or a coworker who just happned to be a black guy or something it would have been hotter- How many of us can relate to being a rapper??? If Brazers or some other company could get hot white girls to do scenes where the IR wasnt played out to be dirty/nasty in a glory hole/monster cock/or gangbanged that site would be a hit.
Bramm_Brazzers
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Do you see what happens, Larry?
125 Posts
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Posted - Feb 12 2010 : 9:52PM
honestly guys...who gives a shit...lol
if you guys want IR, then i encourage you to go somewhere else because (for the time being) we simply just don't provide it on our sites...
Im not saying that it doesn't sell...if don't properly, it can be a very marketable product, however right now it's just not our thing.
we focus a lot of attention on our IR stuff on mofos.com (which will be increasing over time) but that's pretty much where it'll stay for now.
again, never say never, i think we'll try it out again in the future...but for now, you'll probably only see the occasional IR scene on one of our regular sites
trivers77
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22 Posts
5/07
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 1:36AM
Nowadays, I try to just let people talk themselves into circles concerning IR, and only comment is something really absurd is being said, but I feel the need to comment on Barack Obama and his "blackness"
Obama IS black.
Being black by traditional standards has never been about a specific genetic percentage, it is more of an "eyeball test" if you will.
Basically, if Barack is not black, than I, and most every other person in this country who we consider black is not black. If your standard of blackness is that it takes two black parents to be black, then that means that his kids arent black, since to you Obama is not black. That means I'm not black, because my great-grandfather on my mom's side was white, and I'm not black because my great grandmother on my dad's side was a Seminole.
By saying that one parent being non-black negates your blackness basically screws up the whole system, so that people like Barack's father, who are 100% (that we know of) mainland African, are the only true "black" people.
If anything, Barack is in some ways closer to that standard of blackness than I am, as his genes are 50 percent direct from mother Africa, and have only been "diluted" once.
But It is interesting that for hundreds of years, this country's particular definition of blackness has stood to include those of recently mixed heritage, but as soon as one makes it to the White House, it suddendly must be changed.
And to say that the way he grew up, with White grandparents and private schools and such should outweight his actual genetic composition as determining his blackness, WTF?
What is blackness other than, y'know, having genetic material from black folks?
Edited by - trivers77 on 2/13/2010 1:39:04 AM
Edited by - trivers77 on 2/13/2010 1:40:16 AM
Stud_Rob
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 4:56AM
No offense but someone seriously has a chip on their shoulder.
The point of this thread was 'Should Brazzers do an IR series?', hey personally i agree with you and I think they should. We had a response back explaining why they don't have such a huge focus on IR and so really that is that. Move on, there are other sites that have been mentioned which will cater to your interests.
Edited by - Stud_Rob on 2/13/2010 5:00:29 AM
Croc
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55 Posts
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 10:11AM
No, people hated the scene because it was IR. True, they did rationalize it in several different ways, some quite original, but that doesn't mean it was not 100 % about Tee Reel's race.
Edited by - Croc on 2/13/2010 10:11:28 AM
smutlover65
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359 Posts
10/07
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 1:18PM
I miss vivid suck. He would have some really profound things to say on this topic.
trivers77
Member

22 Posts
5/07
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 1:40PM
Lol, I think I remember that guy.
I'm certainly not him, but maybe you care to hear my opinion on the matter at hand.
I tend to take more of a Booker T. Washington stance when it comes to porn production and even mainstream movie production, as opposed to say a W.E.B. Dubois stance. (I bet Carter G. Woodson would roll over in his grave with me bringing these fellows up on a porn messageboard in February of all months)
When it comes to people choosing to not make interracial porn, despite the fact that it would be financially beneficial for them to do so, I can't say anything to that. As long as they are not preventing others from doing so, and are not nasty about their reasons for not doing so, I can't really get too upset about it. How can you get upset if somebody would rather lose out on decent money than hire a few more black guys for their scenes?
Rather, I think it then becomes up to black porn producers and directors to do a good job catering to such market. To not just produce a product, but one that is of good quality, and isn't an insult to the consumer. And if you, the consumer, are serious about wanting a more "upscale" genre of interracial pornography to flourish, it becomes your responsibility to support it. Not only with words on a messageboard, but with purchases.
For me, it's one thing to be against model agencies actively trying to convince new talent to avoid doing scenes with people based on the color of their skin, but quite another to criticize a group for not investing their particular resources into making interracial content.
If money doesn't convince them, what possibly could?
JUSTICE?
AHAHAHAHA
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 2:16PM
If all the"gloom and doom" stories are true, then nobody can afford to try new ideas, it's just too big a gamble. So everybody is staying within their comfort zone. And fear of losing existing customers is more powerful than the prospect of gaining additional customers.
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 3:54PM
Oh, I'm sure he might be around here somewhere, under a different name perhaps.
Stalag
Deactivated User

476 Posts
1/10
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 8:14AM
Regular is fine.
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 2:31PM
Brazzers is about to get fucked the same way they have been fucking everyone else.
yesterday the feds froze 6M USD and charged Brazzers with money laundering
today Pink Visuals filed a 6.75M USD lawsuit for copyright infringement using the same law firm that brought down grokster, usenet.com and a few torrent sites.
[mod edit: deleted sentence not adhering to etiquette also fixed a typo for you.
This bit of info would actually be more interesting as it's own topic in "Porn News" than getting buried in this thread and taking it off-topic. Thanks.
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Edited by - savoy on 2/16/2010 2:42:13 PM
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 5:08PM
Excellent. Finally some justice!
realtip
Deactivated User

2301 Posts
6/04
Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 6:11PM
Justice for what?
theheretic
New Member

3 Posts
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 2:16AM
As a consumer I will not spend money on IR porn. I have nothing against it other than that it is not sexually appealing to me. Therefore I dont watch it or buy it and if I see that a DVD has IR in it I generally move on to a another title that will give me more value for my money. Everybody has their sexual preferences in porn however it seriously matters if that sexual preference sells. IR does not sell very well thats an indisputable fact. It does not sell well domestically or internationally nor does it do well interestingly enough amongst the African American community. Just like mainstream media if it does not generate revenue it gets cancelled. You may not like it from a moral or ethical standpoint but this is about business. If your one of those posters that somehow thinks that Brazzers is lying and everyone is somehow racist. Then put together your own money and shoot the DVD and lets see how well you do. Money talks bullshit walks.
Royal Tee
Member

665 Posts
6/07
Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 5:21AM
^
Yeah do realize that Brazzers is a web studio, Right?
On IR forums I defend companies that don't have and IR site. Other members get upset because Naughty America and Bang bros don't have one site dedicated to IR. I would bring up that IR fans aren't the target audience, so we should just move on to sites that focus on IR. No Biggie. But With Brazzers, I don't know. I'm not buying it. First they have the Rack & Black/Butts & Blacks. They don't do so well, so they scrap them. Alright that sucks but whatever. If I remember correctly, they have a poll to see what type of site would their MEMBERS want to see. Once again IR pop ups. So I guess in the short time that MILF like it Black & Teens like it black were created and up and running, all those people that voted/requested a IR site all just vanished. Replaced with members that hate IR and will cancel their membership. Sorry man, I'm not buying that completely. It's pointless to give my reasons because they don't matter, I'm not a apart of the company and cant do anything about it. Honestly don't care too much either. It's just,well that kind of sucks. Some IR fans lose out on videos because of a bunch of racist members.Now, The people that dislike IR updated on MILF/Teens like it big are okay in my book. I understand. I really dislike it when IR titles have one vanilla scene because the director shot a scene with a woman that doesn't do IR. But to lose two sites. well, that just plain sucks.
Forgive me if my information is incorrect. I skimmed over this thread fairly quickly.
Fernandez
Deactivated User

781 Posts
12/08
Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 2:05PM
They have already doubled their profit margins from the publicity.
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