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iWorship
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Posted - Jun 18 2009 : 9:11PM
Dirty harry or the Minion, etc... First off this isnt a knock on Dirty harry(I love him, seems alright), I hope he continues to get lots of pussy and make as much money as he can. This also isnt a knock on any women out there in the business as obviously they can have sex with whomever they choose but seriously....
I know there is blatant racism in every industry and walk of life in this country but why here? This is be a carefree, loving environment where nobody cares what the fuck anyone else thinks. Why choose not to do a certain race of people just "because", yet you'll stink your tongue up dirty harry's ass or do all sorts of nasty things to the minion, which is fucking disgusting. Im not saying you have to look a certain way to be male talent, and I love the weird looking guys, im just trying to get inside a whores head here and understand.
Cerebral Jedi
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Posted - Jun 19 2009 : 10:16PM
Hmmmmm? This topic seems oddly familiar to me.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 1:32AM
. . . windows.
Lange
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 3:51AM
That's all we need - another interracial thread. Not.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 5:18AM
Why not? That would be more interesting than another IR thread.
 
ma meeshka
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 7:36AM
seek help.
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 7:42AM
Some guys figure that if a pretty young girl fucks Dirty Harry, the Minion, Ron Jeremy, etcetera, then she might fuck him.
juha
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 7:57AM
This thread is bound for closing.
Zaer
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 8:29AM
There's no logic to racism.
deviousdee
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 4:09PM
You guys haven't lock this thread, yet?!
DVS D
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 6:27PM
This thread is dumb. But I don't think there's any reason to lock it.
I would like to see the OP give up using the word "whore" to refer to adult performers though. Thanks.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 2:05AM
"Whore" is so PC-yesterday.
Zaer
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 10:04AM
No reason for it to be, given that the OP is correct.
Edited by - Zaer on 6/21/2009 10:05:22 AM
ntfighter
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 11:58AM
Once you go black you can't go back to Sheboygan Wisconsin.
Cumwhipper
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 12:21PM
Please! Stop the insanity!!!
 
smallcock
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 4:09PM
Which girls have done the Minion or Dirty Harry that don't do IR?
It really doesn't matter. The biggest adult stars today are the ones that DO interracial. Everything is reverse of what it used to be.
Ramsey
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 4:14PM
So she wont do "black guys" but she WILL do......Mr. Pete?
Baggio
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Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 2:13PM
In before the lock.
somedudeyo
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Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 8:31AM
i get what you mean i agree 100 %, they're all racist, and to the people who think they are not racist , if the girl is a prostitute why is it so hard for you to believe they could also be racist ?
Edited by - somedudeyo on 6/24/2009 8:32:36 AM
Fernandez
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Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 4:06PM
Prostitutes are not racist by definition.
Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 8:13PM
What is this obsession with white girls that wont do black guys ?
There are many threads on this topic
Are they all by the same guy ?
Personally (I am a white guy) I like to see Asian girls, and black girls and latina girls more than european girls.
But I much prefer to see white guys doing the fucking than black guys. Nothing against black guys, but that's just how I am.
So to my mind if a european girl does not want to do porn with black guys then thats up to her.
And I do know some prostitutes of one race that do not like clients from another race.

pornlaw
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 8:54PM
Why is it more complicated than a "right to choose ?"
If we live a free society and Roe v. Wade has determined that at least reproductively, a woman has a right to do what she wants with her body -- why does that change if she does porn ?
Why can't a female performer decide that she doesnt want to work with a certain race ?
Are you guys aware that there are male performers that do not work with black girls ? I dont see anyone calling them racist...
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Edited by - pornlaw on 12/14/2009 8:55:04 PM
MikeSouth
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 9:28PM
Michael please do not try to inject common sense into this argument, the people who make it have none.
Harri Patel
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 9:47PM
Most pointless thread-bump of the last month.
mharris127
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 9:50PM
I've just about given up as well on the IR and common sense, Mike. I say that the performers have the right to choose who they want to fuck, and that doesn't necessarily make them racist.
 
tritone
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 10:48PM
It's not. It's just racist.
Why is the only race anyone never wants to work with is black? Huh? Answer that without sounding like a bigot. You can't. And neither can they. So they can make their choice. We don't have to like it and we don't have to shut up about it.
I really WISH my reverse scenario could happen. A total knockout white girl comes in doing ONLY black guys. And not some average girl -- but the perfect girl-next-door teen with big tits & slim body.
Then I'd see how many who tell us to be quiet now would be able to curb their curiosity.
No one notices because they don't watch porn for the guys. But yes, it is equally racist if they only refuse BLACK women.
You're married to Vanessa Blue. How can you be so insensitive to racial issues?
cumfiesta2107
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 10:59PM
I'm personally getting very aggravated by these topics. A girl has every right to have sex with whoever she wants. Enough said.
MikeSouth
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:07PM
pornlaw wrote:
Why is it more complicated than a "right to choose ?"
It's not. It's just racist.
Tritone...please try to refrain from using words you obviously do not know the meaning of, It weakens your argument considerably, there is NOTHING "racist" about that
Now todays lesson for you, should you choose to become more eductaed is to learn the meaning and proper use of the following words
Bigoted
Prejudiced
Racist
I would then suggest you learn the meaning of the word "right" as Michael used it.
When you dont come off sounding like an uneducated moron you can make a far better argument.
Edited by - MikeSouth on 12/14/2009 11:09:02 PM
Edited by - MikeSouth on 12/14/2009 11:09:41 PM
Nimrod
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:08PM
tritone, forget it. I'm very pro IR but let's face it we will never agree on this issue. Just like abortion you will always have two sides. In this case, the performers and their white fans will be on one side and black fans will be on the other side. Let's not waste our time with this debate...this debate is getting ridiculous. I won't even have a problem with it if they lock this thread. I've had my fair share of aruments in this debate and I realized that black and white fans will never see it the same way. This is like a debate between an Imam and a Priest about which one is following the true religion.They can debate for centuries but they will never agree. I'm out of here.

Edited by - Nimrod on 12/14/2009 11:19:15 PM
tritone
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:28PM
Nearly every reason for refusing to do IR in this business is rooted in racism. Racism is believing one race of people is intrinsically less equal or "worthy" than another one.
1. Girl may not be "racist", but she waits to do IR because she can get more money by making fans wait for a big event. This frames sex with a black man as completely different from any other race because we are like an entirely different species! It is extra nasty and extra taboo -- and thus worth more money.
2. Girl may genuinely be afraid of a backlash from racist fans. That base may be more important/significant than anything she might gain from doing IR. So she plays it safe and does not do IR. Again a decision influenced by the racism of others (which is tolerated by the starlet and the porn industry).
3. Girl is brought up to believe all blacks are dirty, nasty, evil, whatever. Affects her thinking so that she never wants to be with a black man even if it is just for work. This is also creates the "I am not attracted to black men" argument. Because they may truly feel that the most HANDSOME, 10 black guy is uglier than say, The Minion. While you cannot put logic behind attraction, it is hard to believe that to them, every black guy in the industry is unfit. No, their minds have been poisoned with racism from an early age and at this point it is irreversable.
4. Girl has racist parents/relatives that find having sex with blacks more disturbing than doing ANY OTHER TYPE OF PORN FOR MILLIONS TO SEE. Afraid of their reactions, she refuses to do IR. Racism.
5. Girl is afraid no (non-black) man will want her after she has been with a black guy. Similar to 3 & 4. Racism again.
Again, no one is denying the right to choose. I am simply pointing out certain truths behind the decision that are often not spoken of.
Edited by - tritone on 12/14/2009 11:40:50 PM
Edited by - tritone on 12/14/2009 11:41:20 PM
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Harri Patel
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Then look up "literally" in the dictionary.
Nimrod
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:37PM
Tritone, everything you are saying has been said before in many arguments and it hasn't changed anyone's views of this issue so just let it go. These types of threads won't make any girl do IR if she doesn't want to. Let's talk about Sports or big butts instead.
Edited by - Nimrod on 12/14/2009 11:39:50 PM
tritone
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:42PM
Well I wasn't the one who bumped this thread. But I couldn't resist not correcting some of the assertions here.
I need to take a break from this. Porn should not make me nervous/irritable.
tritone
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Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 11:45PM
unacceptable comment deleted.
Edited by - savoy on 12/15/2009 12:39:50 AM
 
ChodeMasterJ
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junglew
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 12:51AM
Tritone, wish I could of said it as well as you did. Wish some of our actresses had a better understading of slavery in our society, then they might have a more clear understanding of the pain it still leaves today. Can you imagine a mainstread actress refusing to do a love scene with a black man. Yes, I can. Will bet that there are just as many maintream racist as porno.
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pornlaw
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 10:10AM
Tritone -- you want a "racial" issue to pick up and run with -- try this one, black women are paid far less than white women for the same scene in porn.
Instead of worrying about what race is having sex what race -- try changing that.
To someone who is with a black female performer, that is an issue that hits closer to home.
In any industry, equal pay is far more of a racial issue. A women has a right to choose, even if its based on racism, however employers do not have the right to pay less based upon racism.
Michael
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StormyAlektraKroseblkfan
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 11:56AM
I strongly disagree. This is a non issue. In pon your pay is based on popularity. Do you expect Jenna (Jameson or Haze) and Sierra Skye to be paid the same? They are all white and don't get paid the same so why would Vanessa Blue be paid the same as Alexis Texas or Kristina Rose ? Vanessa Blue isn't on their levels. She isn't even on the same level as newbies like Missy Stone (the white one).
Edited by - StormyAlektraKroseblkfan on 12/15/2009 12:00:20 PM
tritone
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 1:05PM
Pornlaw is right. All things being equal a brand new white girl will get paid more than a new black girl. This is a dirty little secret. There is a "black" pay rate and then the pay scale for everyone else.
You're right in that if you become popular enough, you might be able break through this, but I'd bet that Marie Luv, who is probably more well known than Kristina Rose, gets paid less than KRose for an equivalent anal scene.
What's the difference? Well -- it is obvious.
pornlaw
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 1:41PM
You're missing the point. I can also say Oprah makes a lot of money and therefore all black women in mainstream arent underpaid as well. You are comparing apples to cadillacs.
I am talking about the systemic problem of disparative pay for equal work by similarly situated people.
While you argument does make sense on an individual basis, I am talking in broad strokes. And using your analysis, Vanessa Blue would probably be paid more than Alexis, Kristina or Missy since she hasnt shot a scene for any other company in over 3 yrs. Come back scenes usually garner a premium rate.
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Christopher256
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 4:39PM
Most of the dodgers aren't racists but cowards. And most of them aren't all that great of pornstars anyway, with s few exceptions. Pretty faces, but average performers. They tend to be purely paycheck performers, you can see it in their scenes, which is ironic concidering most of them probably make less by refusing to do black guys. On the other side those that do black guys seem like they enjoy their job more, whether it's scenes with black guys or white guys. It's the I don't give a fuck give me cock attitude which is so hot and which the dodgers lack.
Some of you want this issue to go away. Well I would like guys here to stop bitching about implants which I don't have much of a problem with, but that ain't going to happen.
Zaer
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 7:08PM
No one said these women didn't have the right to work with who they want.
However, the public has the right to criticize them and label them racist if they feel it's warranted.

Edited by - Zaer on 12/21/2009 7:10:10 PM

Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 7:12PM
Why does the public have the right to do that?
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^ Because they're on the internet, it's anonymous and they don't have to face the person and say it to their face.
Edited by - bono-ONE on 12/21/2009 7:16:22 PM
Zaer
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 7:27PM
Well someone in this thread wanted to cite Roe v. Wade to buttress their argument so the First Amendment can be used to buttress the argument that the public has the right to criticize performers for not working with a specific race whilst working with every other race.
Edited by - Zaer on 12/21/2009 7:27:56 PM
rlevor
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 8:22PM
So... Racism exists. Point taken. Can you argue it away?
Also, obsessing over who hasn't had a black man inside them is equally as racist as the actress choosing not to. If we're all supposed to be colorblind, no one has the moral high ground here.
We are all flawed with our own notions of the world.
Edited by - rlevor on 12/21/2009 8:23:23 PM
pornlaw
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 9:46PM
And you have the right under the First Amendment to call them racist. Just as you have the right not to buy their movies or subscribe to their websites. Support those performers that dont have issue with doinf IR on camera.
There's no reason to label people though. Perhaps their reasons for not doing IR arent based on racism ? Perhaps they actually have sex with black people off camera. Perhaps the performer has heard from an overwhelming amount of her fans that if she ever did do interracial they would quite her website and stop buying her movies. So from a business perspective she has decided not to.
Thats business not racism.
Michael
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Nimrod
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Posted - Dec 22 2009 : 10:37PM

mharris127
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Posted - Dec 22 2009 : 11:55PM
[/quote]
And you have the right under the First Amendment to call them racist. Just as you have the right not to buy their movies or subscribe to their websites. Support those performers that dont have issue with doinf IR on camera.
There's no reason to label people though. Perhaps their reasons for not doing IR arent based on racism ? Perhaps they actually have sex with black people off camera. Perhaps the performer has heard from an overwhelming amount of her fans that if she ever did do interracial they would quite her website and stop buying her movies. So from a business perspective she has decided not to.
Thats business not racism.
Michael
[/quote]
Good point Michael! Why should a performer have to fight racism by fucking Mr. Marcus when that person may not feel the desire or need to? The same could be said about Lex Steele and other black talent. Racism is not the all important issue that some here make it out to be. Concentrate on issues that affect people such as abortion (called baby murder in MI) that literally kill innocent children!
charn
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Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 3:59PM
refusing to do IR is understandable in a market with titles like Blackzilla and Oh No! My Daughter's Dating a Negro! the performer may not know the title until she sees her name and picture on the cover.
as a consumer, the guys who shout and cheer and talk bullshit get on my nerves. it may be a swell party, but could they please shut the fuck up and let the women be heard.
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