No matter what size the tits are....play with them.... 732 Posts 12/08
Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 6:25AM
Avy_Scott Wrote on a breast slapping thread: I'm into almost any kind of tit play...LOVE ROUGH BOOB PLAY!! Using as fuck handles has to be my fav! ____________________________________________________________________________________ It looks like some people want the lovely Avy to stop having her ass and boobs slapped, who's going to tell her not to do it, darklyon2 no doubt, the self appointed policeman of porn. Come on guys, the performers sign the bottom of the contract with the box marked "spanking" and "choking" ticked, they know what's coming, get to know your porn and you'll know what's coming too.
^ Well, see that last part is where I disagree a bit. On ADT we're always talking about "hey they know what they're getting into' blah blah blah... But that's not always true. As just one example, I'm sure many of us have read Kylie Ireland's [ invalid url ] about her shoot for JM. If you haven't read it yet, it's an eye opener. OK so obviously that was a horrible shoot. But there are a couple things of note here that we often ignore when talking about rough sex scenes, consent, etc. 1. The star did not sign on for what she got. Things were a lot rougher that what she expected or consented to. 2. The star continued to the end. So often, when we talk about rough scenes, and whether a scene looked too rough, etc. we claim that "well if it was too rough for her she would've quit the scene". Well, it's just not that simple. And in this example, we have a star who was getting it rougher and worse than she could handle, yet for various reasons, she finished the shoot anyway. And of note here is that this happened to an absolute legend in the biz. If someone as popular as Kylie was treated this way, and intimidated into finishing the shoot anyway, how often are other girls, ones who are much newer to the biz or not nearly as popular, exposed to similar situations? It's just too simple to look at every rough scene and say "well she finished the scene, so it must have been fine. She knew exactly what she was signing on for, and nothing unexpected or unappreciated happened to her". ***** Now, this doesn't mean that there aren't times when things are rough but the girl liked it that way. Of course there are. But there's no way that it's always the case.
No matter what size the tits are....play with them.... 732 Posts 12/08
Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 7:07PM
Thanks for the link kilbillvol69, it was a thought provoking read. There can't be a much worse place for an established actress than an unprofessional film set with drunken girls trying to create a name and image for themselves with an unforgiving dildo. I tip my hat to Kylie for hanging on in there, a true professional who would probably never work for Jim Powers again. I can imagine that some girls are persuaded to go further than they may of wanted in a scene, probably the director telling them that they will get more work and better pay if they do, but they still have a choice to do so or not. There may be other things in the lives of the girls driving them, thus allowing themselves to be exploited for more money and work. There is one thing for sure if a movie has, Gang Bang, rough, violation, forced or slapped somewhere in the title, you know what you are going to get. The funny thing is, that they sell and they must sell well, because they keep making them. Remember when Max Hardcore was making movies, he seemed to always find a poor girl to almost destroy on camera every other week, now that is sad. One more thought has just come into my mind, if the Violation of Kylie Ireland had been a Gang Bang scene with 6 males, would it have been allowed to get so painfully rough internally, also is there a thing about a female hurting a female that makes it seem more acceptable than a male hurting female in mainstream porn, I'm not sure, maybe discuss. Buy the way guy's, I'm not into watching over-rough sex, the scenes I enjoy most are 1+1 or 2+1 Male or female pair with some playful motivational spanking, sometimes to get that, I have to put up with some of the this other shit. Edited by - jettyman on 8/20/2009 7:09:24 PM
Well, honestly, I went to that page expecting something far more horrifying than what it actually was. I mean, I'm sure it sucked and was something she didn't enjoy but I was thinking it was going to be far worse from the way you built it up here. And I'm not necessarily disagreeing that it's highly possible (probable) that worse things can and do happen in porn. Basically, what stories like this do is simply prove that it's impossible to make porn without taking some risks and occasionally, tempers are going to flare, disagreements are going to happen and so on. But in the end, we're dealing with things that are basically beyond the ability of us to control. What could anyone who wasn't on that set have done to change the way things went that day? Porn performers have got to take measures to protect themselves. Out here, we're simply observers. And we can't see any more of any given flick than the person who made it chooses to show us. For all I know, half of these girls could be slaves with no choice whatsoever. I just don't know and can't be expected to keep up with it in order to qualify myself to be able to watch the movies without guilt. I hope this kind of stuff is fairly rare but I doubt it when it comes to someone like JM. If girls are being taken beyond what they agreed to, it's up to them to do something about it. No matter what kind of scene they're shooting, the door is always wide open for a girl to later claim she didn't agree to everything that happened. And anyone who wasn't there would never know the truth. Adding complexity is the fact that just because something seems like a thing nobody would be willing to do or tolerate or even get off on, that doesn't mean nobody does or would. How do you deal with that? You can't. It's just part of the reality of making porn for a living. If a girl doesn't take steps to protect herself and aggressively go after people who step over her boundaries, no one else can. And you can bet that if women don't protect themselves and don't have a reputation for not putting up with it, those who are given to crossing those lines will do so. Kylie Ireland seems to have taken some reasonable steps there and from her writing, I can see that she's a very bright woman. I'm not necessarily criticizing her. At least she spoke out about it. They should all do that. We can't know how they feel unless they tell us.
Edited by - randomprecision on 8/20/2009 7:19:26 PM
I was expecting worse too from Kylie Ireland story. Though being in brutal vaginal and anal pain while being fucked with huge dildos sounds horrific. The story just makes me wonder about all the crazy stuff that happens behind the scenes... As for the topic I think spitting and slapping can be hot as long as it natural and the girl is into it. Obviously forced, mechanical and scripted action is always a turnoff.
If you like me, great, If you dont, then fuck off! 2 Posts 9/09
Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 4:28PM
haven't you guys ever seen spermsuckers.com or facialabuse.com? thats all those sites are... you wanna talk about rough lol...my throat was bleeding when big red mark and redrum dave were done with me lol...i jsut shot for them yesterday
