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nruddock
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Posted - Apr 26 2000 : 7:13PM
Don't you think it is a false economy for retailers to charge ridiculously high shipping charges for international customers? If even one company charged the real amount, then all international customers would certainly buy from that company. It seems stupid to me, as they can only lose money by operating the way they do!
sonic
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Posted - Apr 26 2000 : 7:16PM
I still cannot believe the huge amount of shipping cost there is for international orders!
You can almost buy an extra dvd with that amount of shipping cost! <small>
[This message has been edited by sonic (edited April 26, 2000).]
Saki
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 1:00AM
I've always been under the impression that practically all of the international shipping charges are attributable to the international shipping company, such as DHL or UPS. It's not the retailer that is charging ridiculous amounts but the shipper that the retailer uses. The charges are a function of distance and volume (and in some cases, risk).
Saki
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sonic
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 1:41AM
Yup..I agree.
CrumpetMan
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 1:48AM
The adult online retailers seem to charge around $15 (either flat rate or for about 4 items) to ship to the UK. It's odd then when the package arrives to find a $5 stamp on an envelope (which itself could not cost much). So where does the other $9 go?
When you order a few items at once, the shipping charge is pretty much the same as buying from reel.com or amazon.com. It's just that single item purchases are really expensive with the adult retailers.
I've had some friends in the US send me DVDs before and it generally costs them about half what the online retailers charge.
Still, it's the price we pay to get hold of DVDs which either aren't available here or are cheaper for us to buy from the US even with the shipping charges.
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sonic
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 1:54AM
I wanna know.
nruddock
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UK
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 5:46AM
I've seen shipping charges on dvd orders from the states ass low as $3.50. This is when I've paid $15 or more.
What this means is I can't buy any dvd's untill there is 3 or 4 I want! If the shipping was around $5 + $1.50 for each extra, then I would take a chance on allot of disks, which with the current over-charging I can't. I can't see how it's in their interest!
What I would like to see is a company join this discussion.
lasersedge
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 7:29AM
We charge a tiered rate on Air Mail based on the # of discs. Europe is $4.00 for the first disc (or $2.00 + $2.00 each add) and $2.00 ($3.00 each additional for all other countries)for each additional disc up to 10 discs (I wouldn't recommend sending over $100) by Air Mail. Canada is a flat rate of $2.49 and South American countries are $3.00 for the first and $1.00 for each additional (just to cover all the bases). We declare discretely, remove cases (if requested), package discretely, and generally anything else requested (within reason).
For Express packages I do not think it is the retailers that are taking it out on the customers rather than the shipping companies taking it out on the retailers and the retailers just charge what they are charged. Most express shipping charges are within reason. We charge $18.00 for UPS Express to the UK and Japan for 1-6 DVDs, $26.00 for 7-10 DVDs and $2.00 for each additional DVD after that. Most other major countries are $20.00 for the first 1-6, and additional $8.00 for 7-10 DVDs and $2.00 each additional. Check [url=466264]http://www.lasersedge.com/shipping_rates.html</A to see your countries rates.
I would agree that international shipping charges need to be appealing to customers, but it is really unrealistic to think that they will be right on par with the domestic shipping rates being listed.
Email me or post if you have further questions.
Marc @ The Laser's Edge
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 9:22AM
There are a few other reasons why some companies may charge extra for international shipping.
1) US Postal service requires international parcels to be shipped from the local post office. They will not pick them up for you. Therefore the company needs to send an employee to the local post office to stand in line to ship your packages. Everyone knows what a wonderful experience it is to visit your local post office at the end of the business day. It could make an enternity in hell seem like a tropical resort.
2) There is extra paperwork and time involved in preparing an international order for shipment. With domestic orders you can just slap a computer generated shipping label on the box and a $3.20 stamp for Priority Mail and you are ready to go. With international there's a lot more involvled. At my previous job the shipping department was able to package and ship 5 domestic orders to every one international order.
3) International orders are lost more often than domestic orders. Companies need to charge a little more to offset these expenses (or simply charge more for their products across the board).
I'm sure that there are other reasons in addition to the actual shipping charges being higher. I figured these where the most important ones.
nruddock
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UK
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 11:23AM
Questions for Lasersedge.
1: Do you think you can emulate DVDNOW's shipping methods and success rates?
2: Why don't you offer a price-match service? If you could, your company would be unbeatable!
If you could, then why would any international customer buy from another company? Even if you lost a dollar here or there on an individual dvd, you would easily make this up by the increase in customers and orders.
lasersedge
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Carmel, IN, USA
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 3:22PM
<quote>1: Do you think you can emulate DVDNOW's shipping methods and success rates?
We have an excellent success rate and do just about anything the customer asks that they feel will better their chances of receiving the discs. As for shipping methods we use Air Mail and UPS or DHL. I am not familiar with their shipping methods/pricing.
<quote>2: Why don't you offer a price-match service? If you could, your company would be unbeatable!
We have never really considered it as some companies get special offers/deals from different studios/manufacturers/distributors that enables them to price certain titles/lines at "insanely" low prices that would cause a "price-matching" site to lose a significant amount of money. For example our current LIPSTICK SALE ($8.84 each) would cause another store to lose money if they "price-matched" these titles. More than likely the stock they have on hand is at the regular price/wholesale price and in most cases the sale price offered by another site may be lower than their actual cost.
We try to price new additions to our site on par with the lowest priced sites and most times lower. We are always open to emails regarding the price we are charging for a title and will lower it if at all possible. If we can't we will be honest and let you know. We base our pricing on our "wholesale" cost, not a "Suggest Retail Price" (which I have yet to ever see set by an Adult Studio). Therefore, if at all possible we will match the price and in fact lower the price on the site so you can order it at that price and not worry about checking your credit card statement.
Hopefully, this has answered your questions.
FYI, We will be running a SAMURAI and SNATCH sale probably starting tomorrow night or Monday (so check the site).
Thanks
Marc @ The Laser's Edge
Jay
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San Diego, California, USA
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Posted - Apr 27 2000 : 11:23PM
Regarding expensive international shipping charges, I can tell you that our company, Adult DVD Now, goes through a lot of trouble to ship international order successfully. This costs money. We have to pay our employees to specially prepare international orders.
To compare, an order shipped here in the United States is very simple. Just put a dvd in the box, and stamp it. With Foreign orders, it depends on the country, but let's take UK. For UK orders, if we did the same thing, the order would be confiscated! We have to strip each DVD of its case, wrap the disk and cover in special protective sealer, and place in an envelope. Then we need to fill out customs forms and labels. All this is very time consuming. Most of our customers are very pleased to receive the the product, but it is unfortunate the UK forces us to go to such great lengths to get an order through!
Hope this helps.
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Pasky
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UK
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Posted - Apr 29 2000 : 12:05PM
Jay. I do hope Customs in the UK are not monitoring this forum as they do usenet.
If so, they will be particularly ever more vigilant in examining anything resembling the type of shipping you have just described.
Hope not, coz otherwise they'll have my order from you in no ime flat.
Up til now, 100% success rate in shipping.
Hope it lasts



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