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oatmeal
Meat Popsicle


Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 6:51PM
I find it ridiculous that you have to buy DVD decoding software in order to watch DVDs you purchased.
baronorca
Member

Montana
528 Posts
1/01
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 7:20PM
????
I can watch dvd's that I have bought just fine on my dvd player, and on my computer with the free software that came with it.
Could you provide some info as to what problem you are having (causing you to have to buy software).
cv
Member

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594 Posts
7/03
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 10:07PM
On my work computer, a Wintel laptop, the preloaded InterActual DVD Player works fine. I thought Windows Media Player also plays DVDs.

On my home computer, an Apple iBook, Apple's preloaded DVD Player works fine.

On both systems, VLC is a functional, free alternative player so I don't understand why you need to pay money for DVD software.

Perhaps your preloaded software is damaged in some way.

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 10:15PM
It's likely that oatmeal is running Linux. There is no licensed software that allows DVD's to be viewed on a Linux-based machine.

This issue is addressed with outgoing MPAA president and CEO Jack Valenti in this interview (which IMO, exposed just how out of touch Valenti really is).

Edited by - Bill on 8/27/2004 10:20:02 PM

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 11:50PM
For Linux there is no better movieplayer than Mplayer, which also runs on Windows or Mac OS X by the way. Even my Macaddicted friends prefer it!

Jacco

 
Kperv
The Cuddler

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(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Aug 28 2004 : 2:50AM
MPlayer is good but IIRC it doesn't do DVD menus.
Xine is good for that.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 1 2004 : 7:56PM
I use XP Home and I don't like the free (or lite) DVD players that come bundled with new computers, they're usually a step above DOS. Full version DVD software costs $50 or more and has a limited scope (what can you do with it? Play Movies. What else? Play Movies)

If you want to use Windows Media Player for DVDs you need to purchase a DVD Pack for $15. This stuff should be included in the OS.

There must be some big money and political ties behind the organizations that control licensing fees.

The same goes for DIVX and other codecs. Give the decoders away for free if you ever want someone to buy your encoders.

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Heinrich Dahlmear
Member

Palatine, Illinois
118 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 2 2004 : 4:36AM
I've usually had good results with Xine - nowadays I use the Totem frontend instead the default Xine UI, though, ever since I upgraded to Mandrake 10.

The reason the commercial DVD player software utilities cost money is because the the MPEG-2 decoder licensing fees. That's why the WMP DVD plugin costs money (although I've heard the playback is excellent). Open source software developers tend not to concern themselves with those things, hence why you can get them for free.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 2 2004 : 9:27PM
Yeah, I know the reason... I still think it's a ridiculous cash grab. There are always alternatives, especially in the digital world.
Spew
Deactivated User

Bend over for the rod and staff of Jesus!
334 Posts
7/04
Posted - Sep 3 2004 : 2:31AM
strange, im using XP pro and i never bought a dvd pack and i do all sorts of things with DVDs w/ WMP
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 3 2004 : 8:35AM
WMP is able to piggyback off the codecs of other installed DVD players. You probably got a lite version of PowerDVD, WinDVD or ATI's video-card-bundled DVD player when you bought your computer.
licker
Senior Member

Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic
1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Sep 6 2004 : 10:34PM
There has been so much trouble over the locked up, proprietary licensing of the DVD format that China is coming out with its own replacement standard, I believe it is to be called "EVD".

If this is released as an open standard, running on the endless supply of cheap Chinese hardware, I can see it eventually replacing DVD altogether.

As far as I understand the situation in the U.S., the DMCA means you can actually be sent to jail for watching a DVD on a Linux computer. How on earth did you let this happen?




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