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| shayhiri Member Sofia, Bulgaria 15 Posts 9/04 |  Posted - Oct 26 2004 : 2:49PMHi, people! I'm new to the American market and thus find some matters extremely confusing. I'd greatly appreciate any insight from a producer or a customer's opinion. The question : What exactly is forbidden in the DVD US porn - and to what EXTENT? I'm mainly interested in fisting and pissing. They seem hard to find, yet not at all non-existent! (Is this by any chance a matter of conflicting laws in different states?) Where do we draw the line? I could easily assume that if fisting was not forbidden, DAP would be far less popular - fisting just looks a whole lot better IMO. (Same with pissing/ATM.) Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've been shooting a movie for the European market and I was wondering how to "translate" certain scenes for a US distribution - instead of just editing them out. For example, would dildo&cock DAP be a fair substitute for anal fisting? Please shed some light, I'm just trying to provide only the best product and as much as I detest restrictions, I'd rather find a way to deal with them - efficiently.  [Link] |
| ShiWarrior Senior Member 1170 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Oct 26 2004 : 4:32PM fisting is a market, i mean, there is a market for that sort of thing.. i do not know about US laws, as i live in the UK the UK law specifically says "no fisting" , "no pissing" "no beastiality" i know beastiality isnt allowd in the US, not sure about fist and that though, hopefully some one will comment. Regards & Thanks, ShiWarrior - - BIG Breast Fan - -  [Link] |
| shayhiri Member Sofia, Bulgaria 15 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Oct 26 2004 : 5:47PM Another question : I've seen a lot of fisting and pissing by Max Hardcore? Have I been watching Euro-releases? Most probably. Please help sort this out! Or just say what you would like to see in a movie - it would help both sides. Thanks! [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Oct 26 2004 : 6:30PM If you want to include pissing and fisting in your US releases, I suggest that you start by talking to your distributors. If you can't get them to distribute such movies then what the public might consider acceptable is a moot point. PS - Yes, Max Hardcore releases different versions for the European market. [Link] |
| Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 10:24AM For me as anal fan the idea should be somewhere around For me a well designed dildo with a shape close to a fist (but not nessesary hand model) will do the thing. U know it has to be big enough, I mean wider at the bottom (end) with some kind of bulb at the end u know because sharply shaped one exactly matching a hand would probably harm someones ass or simply wont feel good and uncomfortable. Mr. Peter [Link] |
| Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 7:49PM Also, I don't think the hand-shaped dildo is a substitute. Just a note to Hardware: The vagueness of the federal statutes could also be interpreted to mean that *any* sexual content is prosecutable. Even if you look over Federal, State and local obscenity prosecutions over the last 7 years or so you'll find 2 or 3 that involve fisting or pissing. The others involve pretty much mainstream material. Scott Kinney [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 9:01PM [Link] |
| Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 9:21PM
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| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 9:31PM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 10:16PM Watersports on the other hand is not something that is permitted by British censors. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 10:17PM [Link] |
| ShiWarrior Senior Member 1170 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 9:00AM thats the way i see it, Joey u may be right Regards & Thanks, ShiWarrior - - BIG Breast Fan - - [Link] |
| shayhiri Member Sofia, Bulgaria 15 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Oct 30 2004 : 8:50AM And, Scott, you rock! You'll be hearing from me. [Link] |
| Skeeter Kerkove Member 967 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Nov 6 2004 : 2:06AM If you want sex that is just so hardcore it is wrong. Check out Sodomy Law of the Land. Us Americans kick ass, with a love and care you don't find too often. I love fisting so much, we put it on the tour page of Bridgettes website. Demanding double anal since January 1999, God Bless you Bridgette Kerkove. Skeeter Kerkove "King of Sodom" Rock N Roll all night and film women getting sodomized everyday! Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn and I love [Link] |
| p_ramezap Senior Member 1549 Posts 5/03 | Posted - Nov 6 2004 : 11:24AM [Link] |
| Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Nov 6 2004 : 12:32PM What you are maybe confusing with the law is the current guidelines for R18 as decided by the BBFC which is a body supposedly independent of the govt. To sell a video in the UK it must have a BBFC certificate but this does not apply to material from abroad. Any material from abroad is exempt from BBFC classification on grounds of fair trade but customs tend to follow the BBFC nowadays so that broadly speaking anything that would be granted a BBFC classification should get through customs. Bear in mind the BBFC guidelines can be reviewed at any time and the changes the last few years were as a result of a huge public consultation convincing the BBFC that attitudes had changed. Also bear in mind that the BBFC has a great deal of leeway and so could decide to allow a fisting scene in a lesbian sex educational film in just the same way as years ago it allowed scenes of intercourse to be shown in 'The Lovers Guide' at a time when it censored all such scenes from any other movie. SNP. [Link] |
| Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02 | Posted - Nov 6 2004 : 1:53PM It isn't illegal, at least not at the Federal or state level. Full stop, end of sentence. Scott Kinney [Link] |
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