Only atheists don't believe in intelligent design. And Catholics aren't atheists. When people believe that God has created men and women. And God is intelligent according to their view. Then they also believe that God has designed people in a very intelligent way with a purpose for every part of their body. This is just common sense, as far as religious beliefs go. And Catholics do see human reproduction as sacred, a lot more sacred than waste elimination. A lot of religious women, including Catholic women, often see sex for pure pleasure as sinful and 'dirty'. And waste elimination is also dirty. Which kind of makes having anal sex for pure pleasure more okay than having vaginal sex for the same purpose. A religious woman can't defile her ass by having dirty sex, because her ass is already dirty in her view. Which makes having anal sex with a guy more okay for such women than having vaginal sex.
^ Actually the Catholic Church, up until some recent statements by Pope Benedict XVI, has leaned towards theistic evolution over intelligent design. These are not the same thing: [ invalid url ] But getting back to the heart of it: I think Catholic girls have been more likely to give up the ass than the pussy in the past because they're taught so much about not giving up the pussy, but giving up the ass is never addressed directly, so they can sort of justify it to their horny little brains that it's not as much of a sin. They know that it is just as much of a sin, and they know that their parents would be equally unhappy, of course, but it's easier to tell yourself something isn't wrong if someone hasn't told you directly not to do it. Also, I don't think this applies only to Catholic girls. I dated a Protestant girl for a while when I was a teenager who didn't want to have sex before marriage, but she told me she was thinking about maybe having anal sex, because it wouldn't be "as bad" (her words). She mused about it a couple of times, and if we had dated longer, I believe she probably would have given up the ass; but I doubt I would have ever gotten inside her pussy.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 18 2011 : 1:54PM
There was a study (an actual study, not one of those mythical studies always claimed on the net) that found that the young women who were part of the 'chastity' programs promoted by evangelicals were more likely than their peers to have had anal sex.
It isn't but if girls want to fool themselves into thinking it is then what can we do. In my world. If you take a dick in any hole than you have had sex. Now some will argue that a BJ isn't sex then I will give you a perfect example of why it is. If you have a Girlfriend or wife and you let another girl give you a BJ. What will your significant other do when you tell her that you didn't have sex with the girl but just got a BJ? For some reason I don't think she'll look at it the same way. In case you think differently then how about if your GF or wife gives another guy a BJ. Do you think you'd agree with her that she didn't have sex with the guy?
What a thread... I don't think it's too soon to toss Gracie Glam into the mix. Her latest on Brazzers's Pornstars Like it Big shows just how quickly Gracie has taken to the craft. She looks so natural, much like Tori Black, and Tori was a certifiable anal queen when she started taking it up the ass. Plus, Gracie embraces ATM and she even works in some lap dancing while keeping the rock hard dick in the backdoor. I haven't, and probably won't see her BWA scene but things are looking good for Miss Glam's butt.
It's good to see Gracie Glam take hard cock inside her sexy bum. But I don't think it's fair to compare her anal rides with those of Kagney Linn Karter, for example. Because Kagney Linn Karter wasn't just satisfied with an ordinary anal ride. Kagney took on horny guys for wild anal, DP, and DAP rides in 'Kagney Linn Karter is Relentless'. And Kagney's straight-to-anal, all-anal ride with a horny guy in that film really defined her as the new anal queen. Because her all-anal sex with this guy was as anal as anal can be. A lot of ladies in porn have ordinary anal sex with their horny guys once in a while. But it takes a real anal queen to take horny guys for wild straight-to-anal rides, DPs, and DAPs. And that's exactly what Kagney Linn Karter has done. Kagney Linn Karter really is a sudden anal queen, who has stormed the anal scene. Because in only her 3rd anal film, Kagney Linn Karter took two wild DAPs from two horny guys. Even Sandra Romain, the undisputed queen of DAPs, started doing her DAPs with the horny guys only in her 10th anal film. Kagney Linn Karter has beaten this Sandra Romain's DAP record and by a large margin too. Because Kagney had DAP sex in her 3rd anal film. Which is impressive, to say the least. Kagney Linn Karter has the potential to rival the likes of Sandra Romain and other all-time great anal queens, when it comes to having anal sex with the horny guys. And she has the looks for it too. Very nice ass she has.
Interesting theory, though I must say I hope it's wrong, because if it's true, I'm bound to forever be in the minority. I've been almost exclusively a fan of anal until very recently, and my favorite perspective is anal cowgirl viewed from behind, where the pussy isn't obstructing my view of the asshole stretching action. This whole "the male viewer is always the second guy in the room" thing is actually one of my biggest pet peeves in porn. I dislike the pussy spreading, and when the girl doing anal cowgirl keeps her head turned around so her face stays on camera, and all the other unnatural fourth-wall-breaking poses and behaviors. I don't want the performers acting like they're performing for a camera; I want them acting as if they're actually, sincerely having sex with each other. I don't want to be the second guy in the room; although if I was the second guy, I'd want to be the one fucking her in the ass. They could sew her pussy shut for all I care.
It's not possible for the lady's pussy to obstruct your view of anything. It just adds to your view, without obstructing anything. Because the lady's pussy doesn't protrude in any significant way, the way a man's cock does. I want to see the lady's pussy during her anal sex with a guy, because it's her pussy that informs me without a doubt that she is a woman and not a she-male or a man pretending to be a woman. When I don't see the woman's pussy for a while, while she is having anal sex with a guy. Then questions about her womanhood begin to creep into my mind. Which makes her sex-action less hot for me. I need to see the woman's tits and pussy during her anal sex with a guy to show me that she is a woman and not someone pretending to be so. And it's probably like this for other heterosexual porn fans too. But of course, not every guy is equally heterosexual. Some guys have bisexual interests. And for them, being sure that the anal lady is actually a lady might not be so important.
I think the logic of my words speaks for itself. It doesn't really matter if I say what I say, or some other guy says exactly the same thing. Because the logic of my argument is valid regardless of who says it. Which means that who I am or under what influence I am is irrelevant in this discussion. It has nothing to do with the subject being discussed.
I guess I just find it "interesting" that when watching a girl get fucked, if he can't immediately see her pussy because of the camera angle, he wonders if it is a she-male in disguise. That would never occur to me but I dunno...maybe it's me.
True, it's not technically the pussy itself that's in the way when viewing her from the front. It's the pubic bone. Of course, this isn't an issue if you're looking at her from a sufficiently low angle, so obviously it doesn't apply when it comes to some positions.As far as I can tell, few if any anal scenes start with the woman's back to you and a dick already up her ass. Chances are, you're pretty much always going to see her pussy or evidence of one before the anal starts, especially considering how sadly uncommon straight-to-anal scenes seem to be. And once you have seen that evidence even once, you know she's either a woman or a very convincing post-op. If questions are still creeping into your mind after that point, that's a subject for psychotherapy, not evolutionary psychology. Barring those with brain damage or developmental disorders, all humans over the age of 1 or so exhibit object permanence i.e. the ability to understand that just because you can no longer see something doesn't mean it's no longer there. It's highly unlikely that a majority of normal heterosexual males experience a lapse in object permanence when it comes to the vulva.
People have two kinds of memory, a short-term memory that normally decays within 30 seconds, and a long-term memory that can last for many years. Which means that virtually everyone forgets a little of what he has seen within 30 seconds of seeing something. And 30 seconds is the upper limit. Many people forget faster than this. If people have to rely on their long-term memory to remember that the woman is a woman, because they've seen her pussy a couple of minutes ago, then I have to say that this is a poorly made porn film. Because long-term memory isn't as vivid or realistic as the short-term memory is. Having to rely on your long-term memory makes the porn film less enjoyable to watch, unless your sexual orientation is such that you don't really care whether the woman in front of you is actually a woman. There are always exceptions to any rule. And the degree of your heterosexual orientation matters in this case. The only reason why heterosexual porn fans enjoy watching the sex-action in a porn film is because they are attracted towards the lady, as a result of their heterosexual orientation. And that's why it's very important to keep showing such porn fans the lady's pussy and tits, regardless of the kind of sex she is having. So that the evidence of her womanhood never fades away from the short-term memory of the fans watching her. When the lady's pussy and tits disappear from view for more than a few seconds. Then the short-term memory of her womanhood begins to fade in the minds of heterosexual porn fans. And this is a normal process. It's not something you need to see your psychotherapist for. The best way to fix this kind of a problem is to make a better porn film that shows to the viewer the lady's pussy and tits often enough, so that her pussy and tits never fade from his short-term memory. Edited by - Dan on 12/22/2011 9:00:46 AM
It has always been my understanding that our short time memory is used for things of no importance such as wearing panties , what leg did you use for first four days ago? you can't remember you might say I usually begin with my right leg , but you can't remember for sure, it is a thing of no importance , but if you wear for example a spacesuit you'll put it in your long term memory because you're also learning how to and this is important. How to know that a woman is a woman is that important that you learn it almost the very moment you recognize mom from dad and will remember that difference forever
It's important to have a vivid memory of the woman's womanhood during her sex with the guys and not just any memory. And short-term memory is what makes this vividness happen in the mind of the porn fan. It's the vividness of the memory that makes you feel as though you are there in the sex scene and not just watching a historical blast from the past.
I agree with a couple of other posters here. It solely depends on preference but I prefer a new girl not to "storm out of the gates" and do everything at once. I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds it more exciting when a girl who used to be pussy only starts finding that she loves to have anal sex, do DP's, and explore into more hardcore scenes. I don't know if it's just me that feels that way or not. The example that comes to mind right off the bat is London Keyes.
Your kind of preference requires a lot of patience. Because it's like the pretty lady is teasing you a lot with her big, sexy ass, but not delivering much as far as the anal sex goes. I suppose there is some masturbation value in being teased like this. But I don't know of many horny guys who only like being teased, without being pleased. Ladies who only tease but don't please usually have a bad reputation among the horny guys. Being full of lust and being full of patience at the same time somehow doesn't sound right to me. When you are full of lust for the sexy lady's ass. Then you just want to have fun inside her big, sexy bum, without any restrictions and without any worry that you might have to say 'sorry' to her later on for riding her big, sexy ass a little too much.
I can see what you're saying Dan. I just mean that I liked the performer before she did anal(not knowing she would ever do it) but now I REALLY like her. It's sort of a pleasant surprise.
Well I have a very good memory although I don't dream (or better I can't remember any dream when I wake up), it's a little bit fading while aging, but I begun from a photographic memory during all my school-time and even in college I very rarely have read anything more than once and when I did it was to be sure I understood well what was explained , I could recall and see in my mind a page and literally read from it. Unfortunately I begun smoking and did that for years , I also begun drinking sometimes heavily (never when I had a date or met a girl,a basic rule) so this kind of memory is now gone, yet I can remember the exact sensation I felt from a pussy of a girl I fucked, her legs ,her mouth , her breath , the way she was moving or wasn't,it's almost like I'm fucking them again. strange thing though I always had troubles with phone numbers , can't remember any. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/23/2011 7:10:15 AM
Yeah, remembering that a woman has a vagina is no more difficult than remembering that she has two eyes, a nose, and a mouth.Regardless of how much his short-term memory has faded, it is not normal for a straight guy to assume that a woman whose vagina is temporarily hidden from view is a man. Especially considering the fact that straight guys can generally jerk off to thoughts of women they haven't even seen naked.
Guys can do with lesser quality porn, when nothing better is available. But this isn't a good reason to make poor quality porn that taxes the memory and the imagination of guys, instead of making it easy for them to enjoy. Edited by - Dan on 12/25/2011 2:06:36 PM
The worst kind of taxing your imagination is when you have no porn movie at all. It's when you have to imagine the whole thing by looking at fully dressed woman. Guys can do this kind of thing. But it's not easy to do in terms of concentration and mental work. Which makes it less enjoyable than watching a porn movie. This is the advantage of watching porn movies instead of imagining the whole thing in your head. Porn movies show you so much that you don't need to imagine much. Which allows you to relax and enjoy. And the things you see in porn movies are much more vivid in your mind than whatever you can imagine in your head. The quality of the picture on screen is much better than any picture you can create in your mind with your mental powers. I think that the less you need to use your imagination and memory in your sex fantasies, the more you can relax and enjoy. It's like having a very elaborate and tasty dish presented to you on a platter to enjoy, instead of having you work hard to create the dish and try to enjoy it at the same time. A good porn movie just lets you enjoy, instead of making you multitask in your mind.
I agree that a good porn movie helps you to imagine that the pretty lady likes you, the viewer, and that she would welcome you for a good fuck with her, if only you were there in the room with her. Stimulation of this kind of imagination makes the porn movie more hot to watch for the viewer. And this imagination is necessary, because it's something the movie can't show you directly on screen. But when the porn movie neglects to show sexy parts of the lady, so that you can imagine them instead. Then this porn movie unnecessarily makes you work hard for your enjoyment. And this simply is poor quality porn. Because the movie can show it better than you can imagine it in your head. Any pictures that you can imagine in your head are always of worse resolution and quality than what can be shown on screen. And that's why the viewer shouldn't be forced imagine anything that the movie can show him directly on screen. Imagination is necessary only for things that cannot be shown directly on screen. Such as the sexy lady wanting to fuck you, the viewer, for example. This kind of thing cannot be shown directly on screen. But if the movie makes the pretty lady look like such a slut that she would likely fuck any guy. Then this enables the viewer to imagine himself banging the pretty lady and enjoying it too. This is one of the reasons why anal-sex and group-sex is so popular in porn. It makes the pretty ladies look like real sluts who would fuck any guy, which helps the viewers imagine themselves having great success in bed with these pretty ladies. Stimulation of this kind of viewer-imagination is good in porn. And that's why I'm all for pretty ladies having anal sex with the horny guys on screen. Any pretty lady, who spreads her sexy ass for the horny guys to ride, is a lady who obviously has no sexual inhibitions left. She has given up her anal virginity, even when many other porn ladies choose to remain anal virgins. And this kind of thing automatically makes the anal lady look more available for every guy, including the viewer. Anal sex for the pretty lady makes her look sexually uninhibited, which enables her viewer to imagine himself having success in bed with her too. Edited by - Dan on 12/28/2011 12:06:01 PM
I don't have a problem with this. And this is coming for a very average straight guy (as "average" as one can be who posts regularly on ADT anyway). I like her tits and pussy to be in the picture because those body parts turn me on, not because I need proof that she's a woman. I like her face to be in the picture just as much (if not more) so that I can see her reactions and enjoyment. But I have no problem with a butt-only closeup view if its well done (and not overdone - which happens way too much). A closeup of a cock moving in and out of a well shaped butt is all good with me. There are several great angles for this. For example when a girl lies flat on her stomach with her legs together and the guy fucks her bubble butt (there's great scene with Madison Parker, can't remember the title). Also doggy or standing doggy filmed from behind showing off her sweaty back while he fucks her ass.
And more on topic: Madison Parker. I heard rumors she's already retired but she's been putting out a good number of excellent anal scenes in the couple of years she's been active.
^^ I get interested in a porn movie because of the female performers and then while watching if the parts are shown nicely then its the best....moreover i love the butt getting pounded...sp the looks are very important to me...
I'd say that the lady's looks and her sex in the scene are both very important for all porn fans. These are the two essential element in any porn scene. And if either the lady's looks or her sex-action in the scene isn't what the viewer wants to see, then he is bound to be disappointed with this scene. The lady's looks can be easily shown on the cover. And I think that film covers should show all of the ladies in the film, so that viewers know what they are getting before they buy the film. But informing the buyer about the sex-action in the film is a bit more challenging. Because simple words often don't describe accurately the sex action in the film. The front cover can say that the movie is anal for example. But nowadays it's hard to know what does anal exactly mean? Does it mean straight-to-anal, all-anal sex? Or does it mean a token anal penetration at the very end of a long pussy-ride? And even if it's all-anal ride, then is it gaping-anal kind of sex, where the guy fools around with his dick a lot and the lady gapes her ass? Or is it a good, old-fashioned anal-fuck? And even if it's a good, old-fashioned anal-fuck, then is this fuck nice and slow or hard-and-fast? Different viewers want to see different types of sex-action. And unfortunately, viewers often don't know exactly what kind of sex action is in the film when they buy the film. Which can lead to disappointment. Perhaps one way to avoid disappointment is to stick with certain film directors who favor certain types of sex in their films. But even this often isn't a reliable way to choose porn films. Because film directors sometimes arbitrarily change their styles, when they go to work for another porn company or when they start a new porn series.
Among other things in your post , I agree with the selected part the most....its easy for me to stay with known productions, performers and reviewers....most of the times the back cover does say a lot about the movie too...
@Dan, do you read the film's reviews? Watching porn really doesn"t need to be as complicated as you make it sound. Edited by - jakerson181 on 12/31/2011 9:11:07 AM
A porn film needs to be made, before you can watch it. And making a good porn film isn't as simple as it sounds. A lot of porn films have strengths and weaknesses. And it's useful to talk about both, so that future porn films can be improved and made better. It's up to the viewers to criticize porn films and suggest ways to improve them. Because film producers who make the films naturally don't want to see anything bad in them. They are often blind to the weaknesses in their own films, because nobody likes to criticize themselves. Without constructive criticism, porn art is bound to stagnate and remain mediocre.
^My point wasn't about constructive criticism which I am in favor of. The point was about your asking 75 questions about EXACTLY the type of anal scene it would be that someone should ask to see if they will like the scene and even then they can't be sure. What is the value of raising all that consternation and doubt? Yes, an educated viewer should do their homework to improve the chances they will select something that they will enjoy but at some point, you go with your gut and make a choice. There is no need to create analysis paralysis about watching a porn scene.
If you don't like my analysis, then you are welcome not to read it. I don't expect everyone to agree with what I say, and neither should you expect everyone to agree with you.
I happen to disagree with you, and let's just leave it at that. We are both welcome to have our personal opinions. That's what free speech is all about.
Housekeeper, The (Belessa Films) - review by Danielmayu33216
Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 1:52PM
