Why haven't any company's made a remake of the classic kirdy stevens TABOO? since fake incest is legal to produce. Topic Moved by - Jonny Jay on Jun 17 2012
Maybe after the Kirdy Stevens's five Taboo titles, and the four-part "Taboo American Style," the genre got played out. Still, it's reasonable to ask why we haven't seen anything in the last few decades. That may be simple caution on the part of porn producers as porn itself has become less taboo; all the "Step-fucking" we see nowadays may be attempts by producers to scratch this itch without going over the line. As for your idea of a remake: It may be like trying to capture lightening in a bottle. Who would play the Mom? Kay Parker was perfect, and the Mom would need to have big natural boobs with some real acting chops.
You should send this idea to Rachel Steele :).she likes to get new ideas from her fans,she can act very well and if she likes the idea you may see a remake of taboo from red milf productions.
DIRTY MOVIE was incest on a completely different theme and line.rachel do have creative mind and she may surprise you with something very different in future, may be combining a fairy tale story characters together with incest theme?she has already done a double role in her rachel steel and robin steel clip. She loves to read ideas from her fans, if you have a great idea which you think no one has done before, send it to her. you may see a movie soon if she likes your idea. Rachel steele spend first two hours of morning after her Yoga in responding to each and every fan email personally.
Have you seen the movie?if you have seen the movie and you know story of movie and the way it has been done, its completely different from taboo.a new type of porn called fusion porn was created on top of incest theme and in a bollywood porn parody.fusion porn which shows a mix up of two cultures, two languages.
Ok let me tell you a short story theme so that will give you some idea how it is different.it does have incest but the way it's written,directed and shot is different.incest is old dish ,dirty movie gave it a completely new look with sets ,dressing,songs and dances.short story is -American mother and son travel to India for holiday,they travel different places in India and one of the king notice the mother while mother and son doing some shopping in Indian market.so starts to day dream about mother and goes into dream sequence(typical Bollywood style) and dreams about dancing with mother around trees on "ooh la la" song of "the dirty picture".king want her at any cost and order his man to find out more about her and steal the passports,identity ,credit cards and all the money they have and make this American women helpless do she will do whatever king wants her to do. Kings servants get into the villa where American women staying with her son and take out all the money and docs.when American mother and son comes back they figure out they have been robbed ,they call and find American embassy closed because of political rally,they don't have money even to hire a taxi.king send a message through his servants offering to give them passports back but in return American mother has to sleep with her for one night,king offers some big amount of money as well.king has his own rules,he sent out all instructions which they have to follow,including dresses and jewellery.some funny situations between mother and son after this when mother is trying to follow the kings conditions and dressing in saree.they reach kings palace and st the entrance of palace you can see another funny situation and dialouges between kings bodyguard and son. King demands some sexy seducing dances from mother and tells mother her son is a good pimp,he negotiated well for the money. King order son to hold his cock and push in his mothers mouth with his own hands.he order son to get naked.king create a situation where incest happens by chance :) and he play a trick so he doesn't have to pay them money and making sure they break one of his rules.after having sex with American women king decide to keep her for sometime and decided not to return them passports.mother crying begging king to give the passport back but king ask them to stay in his palace.king corrupt the son by offering him his haram girls,offering him money and everything he wants to sell his mother to king.king arrange a orgy party where king's first son from first American wife also joins the orgy.you can see some nice positions with rachel Steele up in air ,haram girls holding her in air at the time of sex scenes,haram girls doing some different positions as well.finally king managed to corrupt son and son burns the passport in front of mother and decided to stay and give her mother to king....climax you should watch yourself :). It does have incest but not only incest,a nice situational story which has seducing sexy dances,music..it's a effort to make it look completely different.2hrs long and actually after shooting the original movie length came around 3hrs so some of the songs and dances have been removed to fit it under 2hrs length.it's fusion porn which has something to get the billions of people India get interested into porn movie,it has something which will get US and Europe people get interested in this movie. Dirty movie is an effort to create something in a different way.
the sets, effects, acting and editing are really bad in the dirty movie. i mean one of the subtitle words was spelt 'out' when it was meant to be 'our'. its a bollywood parody yet there is zero asian actors in it. the only asians are the ones from stock footage. it cant be taken seriously. rant over lol Edited by - ashlii on 6/19/2012 10:53:51 PM
You can get dirty movie comics as well to see how different it is. E.g. On presentation and packaging -if I serve you the same food what you eat at home everyday in a nice restaurent near sea beach,decorated with flowers on table and offer you some extra fregrant spices on the table to try and make it taste different ,your own food which you eat everyday at home will taste different and you may enjoy it more.its all about ,how you present and create something differently.dirty movie loved by many people across the world, Rachel received thousands of emails and it is still selling as people cannot find it easily on shares as shares are still monitored and movie removed from shares very quickly.so much of free porn avilable on tube sites,to get the money out of pocket of people something different was required.this one movie made Rachel famous in Asia,Fusion porn is what she created to get attention of billions of Indians and millions of Indians living in different countries who love Bollywood movies.every movie has critics, there will be always some people who will never appreciate if someone try to do things differently but there will be more who appreciate the effort and demanding for sequel of DIRTY MOVIE.she is getting many emails from people for sequel of DIRTY MOVIE as well :)
Thanks for the feedback on a movie from a viewer who loves killer gram and brazzers hardcore shoots clips,thanks for expressing your views Ashlie :) Movies are never restricted to race and religion,I gave you example of Gandhi and you asked about Nelson Mandela,search on google yourself who was Gandhi and who was Nelson Mandela :).critics views are appreciated as much as good reviews.
where have i said i love killergram? and to you food comment i say if you take a duck to the stables and teach it to gallop, trot and canter, does that make it a horse? no its a duck.
[/quote] where have i said i love killergram? and to you food comment i say if you take a duck to the stables and teach it to gallop, trot and canter, does that make it a horse? no its a duck. [/quote] I would like to give a combined reply here for the comments what you have posted on red MILF Productions thread. I don't want to comment on that DVD Release thread, the thread was created to announce the DVD's and get some positive and negative feedbacks from her fans, not negative "comments".Rachel prefer to communicate on email but she may check that thread later and i don't want her to get upset by seeing negative comments instead of feedback on what can be improved and what new ideas can be done. she works for 16 hours a day and its two people running red MILF Productions. First thing is about food, i don't want to say much here as you have spend 60 USD to buy DIRTY MOVIE, So packaging and presentation must have some effect on you , which made you spend 50-60 USD for movie and you have watched it without using fast forward button as you have observed the subtitles spelling mistake as well :) . so you watched 2 hours of bollywood porn parody with full observation. thanks for buying and watching it. Try it with food some day, if you have some particular favourite place or atmosphere where you like to go and spend time, and your home cooked food presented to you in a new decorated way in that atmosphere, you will enjoy it more. Its Human psychology :). Now coming to points what you have posted for red MILF Productions till now, see below :- 1.)i gave up on the bad production near the start of the year. i doubt she has the money to get the priya rais of the porn world. when is it going to be released? 2.)if its red milf productions then i wouldnt have high hopes
3.)im more of a fan of brazzers, i have told killergram i would like scenes with stories like others have 4.)is this shot in her house, the same house all her other scenes are shot in? 5.)acting? thats questionable and there are plenty of studios shooting story based stuff. all rachel has is a genre, take that away and red milf is forgettable. though i do love her stuff btw. If someone will read those 5 points above, what kind of impression it creates? you don't like Many things about red MILF Productions but surprisingly you love the stuff what they make. For your information, i want to tell you the set for DIRTY MOVIE what you didn't liked took almost two days for rachel to create and she created it herself and i don't want to disclose the figure but it was very expensive.The special effects which you didn't liked , the trailer you didn't liked took many sleepless nights to get it created.buying dresses, costumes for everyone.Its two people in red MILF Productions and they manage so many things and it took almost a month to finalize the editing. I hope you are not expecting people to travel all the way to india with entire unit to shoot a bollywood parody and find many indian girls. Now Regarding your point for shoot house, It is a big house and it costs lot of money to rent such a big and beautiful house for shoot. what do you expect small production house like red MILF Productions to have a shooting studio like VIVID?what you see in brazzers shoot? scene starts in one room or at swimming pool and ends at cumshot at same place? If you are commenting bad things based on viewers point of view, that is perfectly acceptable. viewers do have full rights to express the views but it should be more a feedback instead of negative comment. I understand you like to argue, my suggestion is when you write on threads think what you are writing, i got really confused when i read all your comments and i was surprised you don't like so many things about red MILF Productions but you still love the stuff?
so if im eating pasta while watching a girl eat out another girl, my pasta will taste like pussy? im not american so i didnt pay in dollers. im only up to the first sex scene which took 40 mins to get to. the big shot of the house the king lives in wasnt theirs. and im sure the interior shot of the house wasnt the actual house. ''A parody is an imitative work created to mock, comment on, or trivialise an original work, its subject, author, style, or some other target, by means of humorous, satiric or ironic imitation.'' so is the dirty movie mocking the orignial? is it mocking india? having the king be named ali baba isnt mocking? ''The name "Ali Baba" was often used as derogatory slang by American and Iraqi soldiers and their allies in the War in Iraq to describe individuals suspected of a variety of offenses related to theft and looting.'' the actors in the film use poor accents and 'nick' mid speach says a line in an indian accent, then reverts back to american. you say rachel steele learn hindi? from the looks of it, it looks like she is readingn it off a script while she is getting fucked doggystyle. can you link my qoutes please to the thread i said them in just so you word them right.
Dirty movie is not available for vod so you still paid equivalent of 60 usd in whatever currency.you are giving some very illogical reasoning of pussy and pasta on which I don't want to say anything ,because you didn't understand ambience has a value. The original question raised by perso who created a thread was on remake of taboo,for dirty movie there is separate thread so you can give your feedback on that thread. You have commented in only two threads all those what I mentioned,original thread of dirty movie which I started and red milf productions DVD release thread. The points what you are raising for dirty movie actually making me laugh,they are so childish.if palace footage is show you expect people to rent the same palace and shoot inside and show you proof that they are shooting in same palace.set designing ,camera tricks are part of movie making. Have you seen the original "dirty picture"?it is based on life of one actress silk smiths who moved from small village to big city to work in movies and meet his favourite superstar ,she try to get work in movies but only after sleeping with the superstar,later she realize she is just a keep then she get into relation with superstars brother and finally she falls in love with a man who she hated most but in the end she realize that she lost everything and she was used by people and she lost her respect,her family in village also doesn't accept her and she commits suicide by sacrificing her life. So with a change in story the intention with parody is to keep the theme of women getting used and trapped into situations and show her sacrificed her life at the end,since it is first Bollywood parody and keeping the same story and exactly same name could be serious legal issues,precautions are taken to keep the similarity and change it into situations where it can have a look and feel and some similarity in terms of dialouges and situation with original movie. All Hollywood parodies you see are they exactly same as original ,NO it is twisted and turned into something where it can be a fit for porn. The only thing what you see is some similarity with dressing and actions. similarity,porn parodies can never be so high budget as mainstream movies :). Your review can not count as you are not giving balanced review, reviews have to be balanced.so if you want to talk more about dirty movie please reply on its original thread.this thread was started by someone who wants to see remake of taboo so let's have a discussion on how it should be made in such a way that it can be better then original?so if people giving good feedback on what all they want to see in remake of taboo,that will someone who may be thinking of making it ;)
Sorry everyone,this thread discussion has gone into wrong direction ,please give your feedback what can be done in new taboo to make it look better then old one?what you didn't liked in old and what you want to see in new ?Rachel may be seeing if her fans requesting for it,if her fans want it,she can make it. If we have some screenplay writer who wants to write screenplay of new taboo,please write it for adultdvdtalk members who love this feature section of forum.
I gave some explanation which I believe you don't agree.make life easier for forum moderators and comment on original dirty movie thread ,I will reply you in detail how it has similarity . Moving back to original discussion on remake of taboo here.i believe the right person to write the screenplay will be members like flash and GG girl who have a taste of classics and they should write the story and screenplay for remake of taboo.gg girl and flash I believe have seen most popular classics and they should know how remake of taboo can be done better. Someone is listening to your request of taboo remake and I hope you may see it soon ...so start contributing your ideas...
Thanks for your view on taboo remake.you may not want to see remake but some people want to see it .no harm in trying to remake,sometimes remixes gets more popular and better then originals.it can be a tribute to the work done by Kay Parker and kirdy Stevens.its a challenge if someone can make better then classic what many people liked.a very good screenplay is important I believe it should come from classic lovers in this forum .i have seen the kind of knowledge and information GG girl and flash has on classics so I believe they should write it and send to Rachel.she will pickup challenges and if she likes it you may see it soon. If you choose some big stars to play roles it may not be possible because red milf productions is a small studio . Majority votes count here,let us see how many people want to see remake.
I tend to agree...well at least here. I do like the idea of re-making some older adult films. Still I think some simply shouldn't be messed with, and this is definitely one of them.
[/quote] Still I think some simply shouldn't be messed with, and this is definitely one of them. [/quote] My view is bit different on remake. It's a challenge if someone can create a remake which can be better or can come even close to Taboo.It may come out real bad or it may come out extra ordinary. we don't know.If no one try , we will never know if it was possible to see something new , something different and if original taboo can have something which new one has or new one can have something which old one has.On one of the thread i saw comment from GG Girl that "its good to see story based old classics with a nasty ness of today's porn." It's not a bad idea to see remake of the old classic which is still bestseller on video stores.ideas don't count if no one execute them so i hope if we see more positive response from people , who want to see the remake of taboo and someone will execute it soon :) . I will send out a mail to rachel to have a look at this thread when we have enough views from members.
Did I really say that? Can you link to that comment? I did a search but can't find it. If I did say that, I guess I was either under the influence, in a weird frame of mind, or I worded it in a misleading way, because I don't feel this way generally. I don't think there is the budget or the incentive for current porn makers to remake an old classic in a way that would please fans of the original. If they were just wanting to cash in on the name recognition, then of course it's understandable, and a Taboo remake would probably be more like a vignette movie with gonzo scenes that have an incest set-up. Not because they *can't* do it right, but because I don't think there is motivation to do it right. (And my idea of "right" is probably different from the next person's idea of "right" anyway).
The problem I have with it, and this is simply my take, is that older films tend to subtlties to them that modern films simply can't capture. These are things that make classic films or scenes classic. A part of me would love to see them try, since modern films underwhelm badly to me that way, but when I see it done, it's rarely as effective to me.
There are a lot of important things brought up in this thread, to begin with, can a remake of Taboo be made? Yes. Can it be made by any studio operating today? I'm not sure. Much of what made Taboo well Taboo was the mood the film created. Something that often is forgotten these days. And if you are remaking Taboo by just recreating the original, there is no point. Taboo doesn't need to be recreated. What could work is a modern adaptation of Taboo.
^ There were a ton of sequels, and they deviated substantially from the original movie's plot and characters, so maybe a sequel would work. I hadn't thought about that.
^ I agree with you (I don't really remember part 3 though), but I don't think the later ones are terrible. They're certainly darker. I actually prefer the Taboo: American Style "mini-series" over the Taboo series. TAS never seems to get the love it deserves.
I agree with you flash, Taboo doesn't need to be recreated. I believe Remake should be done in such a way that it should refresh the memory of old taboo, show some similarity but the screenplay doesn't have to be exactly same. Some new creative ideas can be included into screenplay to try and make it look fresh.We have many new technologies today to give a different viewing experience, that can be used as well. It does require lot of investment in movie as well to make something similar to taboo.I sent a email to Rachel steele, she liked the idea .she is a big fan of kay parker and kirdy stevens as well, she knows it will be a big challenge to make a remake of taboo and meet expectations of so many people who loved the taboo. Still i believe its worth giving a try . after giving a 100% effort and trying it out even if it fails , atleast someone gave a try . Taboo american style, yes its pretty good specially "raven".gloria leonard somehow i didn't liked, may be i was compairing against kay parker. One more scene which is one of my favourite is from movie "The Final Test" , done by vanessa del rio. that is the only incest scene which she has done what i am aware of. May be to write a new taboo screenplay, one idea is to see all the best scene's from all the classics and combine them together and write a screenplay in such a way that all the scene go well with screenplay :).
please, if you have any respect for taboo, do not let red milf near it. honey wilder i thought was always way hotter than kay parker, she did nothing for me
Which studio would you like to take this project on? for me personally wicked or vivid, would of been elegant angel back in the days but ever since Patrick stopped shooting i have hated there "photo-shoot" type porn. Edited by - cjenks11 on 6/22/2012 7:07:56 PM
Not many production studios even bother what people may want to see.if you send the idea to wicked and vivid that email go into junk email folder and they may not even check it.there are very few who check and reply to every email from fans and pick up some of the unique and new ideas .replying to fan emails needs lot of time everyday .if your email is not offering them some money,they may not even read it.Not sure if wicked and vivid guys will get time to read this thread or any emails from people who want to see it.finding 2 hrs of time to reply everyday to fans emails will require stretch from everyday shooting schedules.
That's the problem with most adult films these days, the plot is stuck into a bunch of scenes. A good adult film, the scenes are written into the plot and fit like a glove and don't pull the viewer out.I've never seen any of their productions so I can't comment on whether they could do a good job.To be honest, I'm not sure I would like to see any of the major studios take this on. I'd prefer to see a small studio take it on if it were to be done. I would worry that one of the major studios would either try to downplay the incest portions or alter them completely or would create a film where there were long sex scenes that completely remove the viewer from the film.
Would you like to see the Remake of Taboo in 3D? Watching it wearing 3D Glasses where the hands,lips and tits of women playing barbara you can feel coming out of screen? Not many people know how to create a good 3D Depth but if good 3D Depth can be created in remake of Taboo , do you think it will be exciting? Give it a look and feel of high quality hollywood movie by color corrections? Good script is very important and should include lot of situational slow seductive scene's.I liked the background music of Taboo, so thinking about how to compose a better music.
GG girl / flash would you like to give a try on writing story and screenplay of taboo ?the kind of knowledge both of you have on classics ,I am sure we can get a fantastic screenplay from you.May be you can draft out the story and I can give a try on writing screenplay for it.
I would love to see a remake of Taboo and they don't really need to make all that many changes except maybe add one or two extra hardcore scenes to the movie. The basic plot line and dialogue could all be kept and they can tweak the dialogue to make it more modern but that would be about it. Of course the reality is that you need the finances of a big studio to make the movie and none of them will touch a movie that contains incest in it. The only studio that still shoots a slightly incestuous type of porn is Girlfriends Films with their Mother-Daughter Exchange Club series and even they avoid pairing a biological mother with her daughter and these aren't even actual sibblings. We have to face the fact that a lot of porn made in the golden age of porn simply can't be made today because the content is too controversial.
I mentioned in a recent review of SISTER WIVES XXX (2011, Vivid---!!! 1/2) that a male character that doesn't do much in the parody could become a Junior-like character (Kevin James in TABOO 2) for a SISTER WIVES XXX sequel. Someone could really have a blast writing a script for that one---tb
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I still remember the first time i came across Taboo. It was weird, scary, funny and hot at the same time. Key Parker is still the all-time MILF in my book. She nailed that role to perfection. Well, all the cast did a great job. Never seen anything like it since. And not any porn movie has given me the same feelings. What a rush of all kinds of emotions. That said, im afraid those days are over, and i can't see them coming back anytime soon. The step-sisters, mother and brothers we have been seing more and more of since.. well, 2014 is the limit i believe. I don't see them going the full distance, even tho i don't see the big deal. Fantasy is fantasy, and if i got my info correct, those step-sister/mom/brother/dad movies sells very well these days, and have done since 2014. So it would not be a surprise if going all the way with it would sell even more. Would be interesting to see what some of the biggest producers and even performers have to say about the subject. Finding the right performers is not something i personally believe would be that hard. I think we have some great MILFS out there that could fit the role well as the mother very well. Same goes for brothers and sisters. Well, as longs as the performers themselfs is willing to play those roles. I mean, shouldnt be that hard. Fantasy is fantasy. Just ask the Lannisters. Edited by - rectify-- on 3/28/2016 5:57:59 PM
There aren't many directors these days that I think could handle it. Unfortunately the art of the feature seems to have mostly been lost, with only a few directors that get the concept. As has been pointed out, a cast that can act are needed. Yes some adult stars can act but there are many others that can't. And finally, it would also need the budget to do the movie right.
As you said others have been made, but they totally deviated from what the original did. The aura around the movie when it came out it had more believable feeling about. You actually believed the performances in the movie and that it was a woman who geniunely feel into lust with her son and the movie's final scene showed that. One of the larger reasons it won't work today is that there are so many "blended" families and the number of step-sister/step-brother and/or step-mother and step-father becoming involved with one or more members of the family is more than commonplace now. While it is not legal to even watch adult movies with themes like this in certain communities in this country it is still widely known. It may be "taboo" but the movies that have been made this year alone with that sort of theme are substantial. Since the original Taboo came out we have had a country that has seen a teacher, I should say the first known teacher, seduce a student and convince him to kill her husband. We've had a supermodel, personal favorite of mine during her Playboy years, Petra Verkaik, who gave us the expression of "MILF" by allowing her son's friend to take her to prom. And Woody Allen also did his thing, which for some reason we must not remember or ever talk about. The aura around such a movie, I really don't think, would work today. If it was done it would need a serious production company, serious actors and starlets, and an actually believable script. I don't think it could be done with anyone in the industry today. Just like Kay Parker it would have to be with a woman who has acting ability and would have no problem doing sex scenes in front of the camera. And the biggest thing of all is to make the climatic scenes of the movie BELIEVABLE and LUST FILLED. It cannot degenerate into a gonzo movie the second they give in and start fucking.
I'm sure it could be done but, you're right, it would have to be a big production. Sadly, it's likely to be a forlorn dream - as no company is likely to commit to such a big and controversial project.
Yes, it would be controversial. If it was shot correctly, and basically filmed like a big budget Hollywood movie, it would totally come across like a film about incest and have a reality about it that would scare the shit out of a lot of people. And it could not have starlets and porn studs in it. For it to TRULY come across like it is more realistic than a porn movie it would need semi-professional actors and actresses. The idea would die a quick death the second the "mom" is Kendra Lust who looks like she could win a fitness and bikini compeition! No matter what TV tells us not every woman is in the gym 7 hours a day trying to stay in shape and looking that hot. And making that part of the storyline would be transparent and hollow as well. The original Taboo was earth shattering because, while she's incredibly beautiful, Kay Parker still looked like a real "mom". She didn't look like a "pornstar" with perfect hair, make-up, implants, ass, nails nor did she give off the impression that if she farted it would smell like perfume. And there has already been a precedent set by the movie Shortbus (2006). A movie about various couples have sexual difficulties and learning more about their sexuality. In this movie there were actors and actresses who weren't Oscar winner caliber by any stretch, but acted their way through the movie and were able to do the sex scenes. But with the adult industry slowly on the decline, and this very forum possibly soon to be shut down, there's little chance such an undertaking would ever be done. The true mavericks who built the industry aren't there anymore. Brings me back to one of my favorite jokes, but in this case is true.... What's the difference between porn and art... A government grant. Edited by - DVDstuff on 3/29/2016 9:22:36 PM
