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melaniescottxxx
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Posted - Apr 25 2008 : 8:41PM
Ok so I can have anal sex in my personal life for a 10-15 minutes max.Any anal veterans out there...what kind of preparation,toys,lubes,steps can I take to be able to be comfortable enough to take it for longer than that and to be able to do it on film nice and neatly.

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Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 26 2008 : 9:51PM
First and foremost, good lube. The best choice for anal sex is silicone-based lube. It's the slippy-slidiest and doesn't dry out into gummy goo like water-based lubes do. Probably the best is [ invalid url ] that they sell at Stockroom.com
C376.jpgBeyond that, I'd recommend buying one or more dildos that are ergonomically shaped for self-penetration and working with them slowly but surely.
Good luck!
blowfish
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Posted - Apr 26 2008 : 10:01PM
Assuming you go condom-less with your bf, use some cooking oil. Thats the only thing I know that lasts that long. Practically no friction. Other advice is go very very slow at first. Ease it in and don't let him thrust until the sphincter is completely relaxed.
kataboom
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 1:05AM
position is a big deal. try doggie laying on one of those sex toy furniture things they sell. im sure several are geared towards getting over the bump in anal play for longer sessions.
blowfish
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 1:37AM
Yes, the ass-up-face-down position seems to be the most comfortable.
 
ma meeshka
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 6:29AM
really?
blowfish
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 8:13AM
^^^I find that hard to believe too. 15 min prep before the scene should do it. You want to relax the sphincter muscle not destroy it.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 2:17PM
^^^
A couple of performers have told me that they do.
blowfish
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 4:50PM
^^^Very dangerous IMO. They must be trying to prolapse or prep for fisting.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 6:52PM
^^^
If the neck of the butt plug isn't very wide, I don't know why it would be "dangerous" unless it's use was chronic.
As for prolapsing, only a crazy person would prepare for it. And if they're crazy, why prepare at all?
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 6:53PM
We need some women who like ass-fucking to post in this thread. Just us guys posting is like an internet circle jerk.
blowfish
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 7:07PM
True. I can only talk from my limited experience. All on the delivering end thank you very much.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 7:50PM
but cobalt hasn't posted in this thread yet.
Loraine
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 10:52PM
I was waiting for Cobalt to blow his load before I posted. I'm no anal expert although I do like it and we do it quite often - a couple of thoughts -
How anyone could possibly fuck the lovely Ms M's ass and not lose all control of his cock within about three minutes is beyond me. To be honest and everyone's different but 15 minutes would probably long enough if not a bit too long for me.
Comparing real life to what you might do on video - won't 15 minutes be long enough? Directors who shoot interminable scenes of one thing going on and on lack imagination. I'd spend a bit of time talking with your on set partner before the scene starts.
Bob's lube advice is spot on. I guess if you're going to do it on set, enemas and the like are recommended? Didn't Kami once write she didn't eat for a good deal of time before?
If it was me with anyone other than my partner I'd be going for a condom.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 11:48PM
 
ma meeshka
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Posted - Apr 27 2008 : 11:58PM
to see how long it takes him to go again?
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 28 2008 : 2:18AM
^^^
I've never needed a refractory period for virtual load-blowing, but I should probably chalk that up to my high testosterone level.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 12:00AM

Was I supposed to participate in the circle jerk or the advice-giving or both? I'll just type with both hands and fantasize.
I am of the opinion, like others who have posted before me, that 10-15 minutes of anal sex can be plenty. It's not an endurance test, fer crissakes! It's supposed to be mutually pleasurable. If it stops feeling good, tell him to stop and take it out and do something else.
Oral is always a nice way to start. Your partner can start working a single fingertip into your ass, or his thumb, while he pleasures you with his mouth, and simulate penetration and thrusting with small, shallow motions.
He should feel free to get his tongue in there, too (you can tell him I said so, and let him wash you himself, if you'd like - it can be nice and erotic, bathing and shaving each other).
A small vibe against your ass while you're getting oral is a nice touch, too, or even while having sex.
The point to all this is to get you used to being anally stimulated while you are building toward or having an orgasm. The more you get used to having something in your ass and enjoying it while you're coming, the more likely you are to associate anal stimulation and good feelings / orgasms.
As for penetration, it should take a good, long time to get anything inside you, even with plenty of lube. It's not a race to the finish, is it? It should be savored. Slamming anything all the way in on the first stroke is not going to get you acclimated to anal sex in anything resembling a "good way". It will probably just leave you sore and wondering how you're ever going to get used to this! Just a guess.
This is a time to build trust, to develop intimacy, to learn to give and take. Communicate. If you want more, say so. If it hurts, stop and try again another time. Your partner should make an effort to make sure you are comfortable, should want to make you happy. You are doing something rare and wonderful for him, no matter how porn editing makes it seem quick and easy.
When you've had your ass filled slowly and deliberately, you should be able to feel the pulse in his cock throbbing as he moves ever deeper into you while you gradually get used to the sensation of being stretched. He will learn to enjoy the erotic charge of anticipating you coming and coming with you instead of just rushing towards instant gratification.
Then, sometimes when he's in all the way, let it marinate in there. Don't move, either of you! Rather than leaving a plug in there or whatever, why not just leave the dick in there while you masturbate and say naughty things. Have him or you rub your clit gently or blow on it or use a toy vaginally, or any and all of that, while he remains inside you -- without moving.
Just a twitch of the glutes on his part or a barely perceptible pelvic thrust will cause him to move ever so slightly inside you, or throb (if he has ever done Kegel exercises he will be able to make it twitch and throb on command) without full-on thrusting.
As you get used to having a penis in there, you can do all the moving yourself. Work it slowly, or concentrate on just squeezing him inside you without him actually sliding in and out at all. Your mutual pleasure can increase several times over just by trying this method alone.
Another way I like, rather than being all the way in, is just having the head inside while you practice squeezing it. That could give you both hours of fun. Work up to the full penetration over several sessions. You don't have to be an anal queen overnight, you know! Making slow, steady progress requires patience, but it's worth it in the long run. The journey should be enlightening, educational and enjoyable.
If you practice that tip-squeeze trick while whatever inside your pussy is vibrating away, he may very well lose it in you without a single thrust. I know I have before. Involuntary noises can be wrenched from us men, growls, grunts, groans - you name it!
It's a sexy sight and feeling for a man to have his tip all bathed in hot tightness with all your womanliness squirming around down there and looking up at him and talking smack and getting all worked up.
I firmly believe being sexy about it will be far more rewarding than just being a submissive vessel (which has its place, too, but that's not what you asked about, is it?).
Besides, taking an anal reaming with deep pounding thrusts is very likely to make you sore afterward. Sometimes, that might be what you want, but I'm trying to stick to the buildup for now. It's not easy not to skip ahead, but I'm trying to be patient.
Now, everything I've described up to now, combined with external stimulation of your nipples (cold play with ice followed by warm tongue while he just presses the tip against your tight little rosebud), licking your earlobes, kissing your neck, a little dirty talk about how good you look and smell and taste and feel, should all do wonders to overcome some initial discomfort, too.
In many ways your ability to accept anal for longer periods will come down to whether your boundaries are respected and your desire and endorphins and arousal level are all allowed to crest and trough naturally. Testing those boundaries later can be fun, too, but you're trying to build up to that first, right? Right.
As for 'neatly' -- I've always heard and experienced that where the dick will be is not a storage bin but a temporary holding facility. If you don't feel the need to go, then there's probably nothing in there! I've been fucking my wife in the ass for 18 years (not in a row, natch), and only encountered the "Occupado" a sign couple of times. And if you do, relax and laugh (and clean) it off. It's not the end of the world.
Get it? End of the .. never mind..
Yah, but what do I know?
I've rambled on too long, I know, and I doubt it's very cohesive, but it's late and I don't want to start over. Maybe I shouldn't post it? Ah, what the hell. It was fun to write, maybe it will be fun to read.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 12:00AM
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I can't believe I double posted that. It's enough to make a dude feel self-conscious, if that dude wasn't me.
Edited by - cobalt60 on 4/29/2008 12:03:10 AM
Bojangalz
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 12:37AM
As soon as I read that it was Melanie Scott asking this...well Instant hard on...
wish I could help, though Im pretty sure kimi lixx would...she always has great advice..
oh and by the by....unbelievable jealous of your man
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 2:11AM
Just to clarify, Melanie, is the highlighted language the basis of the advice you're looking for? Unfortunately for you in this case, very few performers post in the Sex Talk Forum.
Although we civilians would like to help -- some of us in a more hands-on way than others -- I'm not sure whether the advice we're giving is pertinent.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 12:04PM
No kidding.
But it was still fun to write.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 12:13PM
It beat jerking off with you guys.
Again.
Was it fun to read? Because I got more -- LOTS more. I'm just getting warmed up!
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 1:51PM
^^^
What makes you think that everything I write is directed at you, you, you, you, you? Egomaniacal bastard!
Well that one kinda was (in a tactful sort of way, I think), but blow me anyway.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 3:00PM
Fuck tact. Fuck it right in the ass!
My advice is pertinent to anyone engaged in ass-fucking, porn talent or not. I see bad fucking in porn all the time. Whose fault is that? The girl? The guy? The director? The rest of you fucks? Who cares?
Here I am trying to do my part to help the signal to noise ratio when it comes to butt sex, and I'm hearing some trash about pertinence!? Fie, fie upon thee, man!
Would you prefer another painful and/or messy and/or dirty A2M and/or "looks most like jailbait" anal thread? At least my blather has a modicum of usefulness, taste and class.
I mean, come on - it ain't like I really think the woman needs my advice! But if she reads it and decides I sound like a zesty kind of guy and she decides to tell me so, thus pumping up my already-inflated ego all the more, then why are you cooze-blocking me?
Look - I've been married for 17 years. Getting "+1"s from random Internet women is all the poon I can score without my conscience getting the better of me, and even then, sometimes, I feel a little sleazy. So stop over-analyzing everything .. ha ha .. I said overanalyzing ..
She's not even coming back to this thread! So what does it even matter? OMFG!
I'm not sending you a copy of my book when I self-publish it, I can tell you that, buddro. I'm calling it "Circle Jerk Circus: Tails from My Favorite Fanboy Forum".
You know, I could just blog and have no captive readership whatsoever. But I prefer to show my ass in a more public forum. The least you can do is support a motherfucker.
 
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 3:16PM
My "real advice" would be "watch less porn", but I thought that was a little insulting, considering.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 3:34PM
Maybe you should consider only working with people who are willing to shoot anal scenes that are within your comfort zone.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:37PM
^^^
Thank my stars and garters that someone in this thread is being sensible.
If we leave things to fucking Cobalt, this thread's gonna go straight down the poop chute.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:39PM
Up. It goes up the poop chute and down the throat. Don't you know anything?
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:40PM
I've been wondering about that myself.
First it's a circle jerk, then you're blowing your load, and now were all pissing into the wind.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:47PM
You filthy-minded bastard! I was talking about the porcelain poop chute, not the colonic one.
We'll actually, I was going for the double entendre just so you wouldn't think you were the only witty sonovabitch around here. Successful or not, it's a goal well worth striving for. Bottom line, I only have your welfare in mind anyway
Dickhead.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:50PM
I'd go back and put a period after "anyway", but that would ruin illusion of lightening-fast spontaneity that I'm trying so hard to conjure.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 4:51PM
"the illusion"
These typos are really fucking up my style.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 5:34PM

The awesomeness abides.
 
Pagoda
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melaniescottxxx
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 11:08PM
You guys stop bickering or I will pull this car over and give you something to bicker about!!!!
melaniescottxxx
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 11:11PM
You guys have given me alot of great advice!, I'm now concerned about being messy on set and what prep I should go through, everyone tells me something different.More than likely in a typical anal scene I will have to take it for at least 30 minutes at a time so I just want to be cool for that entire time.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 11:30PM
if you've got lots of different methods, try them all at home. you've got nothing to lose.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 12:19AM
Light eating a couple of days before and an enema a couple of hours before.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 1:23AM
Some people say that the "anal diet" is just a myth.
They don't know shit.
cobalt60
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Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 4:54PM
[groan]
No mention of zestiness. I feel so used. Subversive! But used. [:P)]
WardqueenJanine
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Posted - May 4 2008 : 12:41PM
Wow! 15 minutes when getting anally taken is a long time, for me at least! I have to confess that first of all I'm not a big anal fan (no pun here) but having said that I find that mental adjustment and some relaxation of both the mind and that which occurs when there is some mild stimulation of the sphincter is very helpful. As far as so called, "expanders" dildos or things like that go I really can't see them being any great help. Lube is obviously very helpful but if you partner is planning on "Staying awhile" after he pops, providing he's going bare backed, something that has some lasting power is advised since cum tends to dilute the properties of most lubes pretty quickly and from there things can get sort of tense.
chaotic_23
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Posted - May 20 2008 : 2:07PM
If you're really concerned about cleanliness, I'd recommend taking an Immodium (or other anti-diarrheal medication) after your enema. As for extended butt-plug wear, I'd recommend against it, as you want your partner to be able to feel _something_, and a fully dilated sphincter's got no tightness to it at all. :-P And on the receiving end too, I've found that "total" relaxation is less pleasurable, but YMMV. You don't have a prostate after all.
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