New Pornstar Interviews - [more]
Introducing Dallas Rea

"I’m very submissive so I love being bossed around and told what to do."
All Forums > The Porn Pool > The Porn Pool Forum Page 176 > Telling the viewer if it's pussy or ass
AuthorPost
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 12:09AM
I've just watched a scene with lady Spice, Omar Galanti, and Kid Jamaica in 'Omar's Butt Obsession'. And at one point in this scene it's not clear if the guy is inside the lady's ass or pussy. Because she is with two guys, sucking one guy, while the other starts banging her from behind.
I think in such a situation, where the lady's penetration isn't shown, it would be nice to hear the penetrating guy loudly say that he is going to take her pussy or her ass. This would let the viewer know what kind of sex the lady is having, without making making the viewer guess.
It's hard to get excited about the lady's fuck, when you don't know if she is having pussy or anal sex. This kind of uncertainty kills the excitement.
I think the penetrating guy should at least say that he is taking the lady's pussy or ass, when it's not practical to show the penetration to the viewer. If Omar Galanti says that he is now going to bang the nice lady's ass, then I will certainly believe him, even if he doesn't show the penetration shot. Because Omar Galanti has a lot of credibility in porn. He has banged the asses of so many lasses that it's hard not to believe him.
Gunzo
Senior Member

1377 Posts
2/05
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 2:21AM
It's bad directing not having a 'confirmation shot' of the penetration. Once it's in THEN the camera can sweep around to show her facial expression/hearing her say how much she loves getting her ass fucked hard. They can say whatever but without the confirmation shot you still don't know for sure.
Omar Galanti
Member

123 Posts
10/11
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 6:19PM
Was no in planing to shoot DAP with Spice and i understand that was DAP just when she ask me more money after the scene ....In this moment i am sure that i was to the pussy and Jamaica to the ass , but i wrong was DAP 100%
Anyway i think that the important is the facial expression ..... If she enjoys i enjoys when i watch the scene ....
Of course if she have pain is also no good for me that i try to jerkoff .......
Other tru think is that if the penetration is clear and the camera see the 2 dick in the same hole with out any way to think is ass or is pussy is better , but i repeat was not in program to shoot DAP....
))))))))
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 6:33PM
It's all down to imagination if you cannot see what is going on,before Gianna did her anal scene i used to love watching her getting pounded doggie style and my imagination took over and it was really her ass that was getting fucked.
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 10:41PM
I think the hottest confirmation of anal penetration is when it comes from all three people involved.
The penetrating guy should tell the lady that he is taking her ass now. The cameraman should then show to the viewer the lady's anal penetration. And the final confirmation for the viewer should come from the lady herself in the form of some audible and/or visible reaction from her.
You need all three of these elements to make it hot for the viewer.
Anticipation of the lady's anal penetration is a big part of the fun for the viewer, because the viewer gets to fantasize about it, before it happens. And such anticipation is especially enjoyable for the viewer, when the lady shows in some way that she heard the fucking guy and is now expecting him to plunge his cock inside her ass. Because when the pretty lady is obviously anticipating her anal penetration, then this makes it very easy for the viewer to anticipate it too.
Of course, when the viewer forms a fantasy in his mind, then the film needs to fulfill it for him by showing him the anal penetration shot and the lady's reaction to it. The lady's audible and/or visible reaction to her anal penetration is an important part of the picture too, because the anticipating viewer usually fantasized about how the lady will react. It's a part of the viewer's fantasy too.
Porn films are all about fulfilling people's sex fantasies. That's why it's important to make the viewer anticipate the coming sex act, and then show it to him in a way that fulfills his anticipation. The viewer's anticipation is his imagination. It's a sex fantasy that he sees in his mind, before it happens. And showing the sex act happen, just when the viewer is imagining it, is very enjoyable for the viewer to see.
Edited by - Dan on 6/18/2012 10:43:29 PM
 
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 10:53PM
I think the lady's DAP in this scene was shown well enough. I was talking about her first penetration in the scene, when she was sucking Kid Jamaica's cock, and you penetrated her from behind.
She got a lot of anal fingering before this penetration. But I still wasn't sure if her penetration was vaginal or anal, because even in anal films, the lady's first penetration is often vaginal and not anal.
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 5:36PM
Dan, with all due respect, the last thing I want to hear is a stud describing what he is doing/is going to do.
(This is right up there with directors and camera talking over the cumshot.)
Dubious_Leftovers
Senior Member

And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
1423 Posts
3/09
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 7:17PM
"I AM NOW GOING TO PUT MY PENIS INTO YOUR VAGINA! I SHALL KEEP IT IN THERE, MAKING RHYTHMIC MOVEMENTS FOR 3.17 MINUTES, THEN I SHALL WITHDRAW AND INSERT MY PENIS INTO YOUR RECTUM AND KEEP IT THERE FOR A FURTHER 6.53 MINUTES!
I SHALL MAKE PLEASURED SOUNDS CONFIRMING HOW MUCH PLEASURE I AM FEELING!"

Oh yes, this really works for me.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 7:30PM
Shoot it!
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 9:14PM
I see a Coneheads XXX: A Porn Parody on the way.
Ejaculate mass quantities... :)
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 9:20PM
Perhaps you won't make a good script writer for porn films. But just because you can't say it well doesn't necessarily mean that someone else can't say it well either.
In one porn film I've heard the fucking guy say to his woman, "Now your ass!", after he took his cock out of her pussy. And sure enough, he was as good as his word. He inserted his cock into her ass right after he said it.
Three words are enough to say something like this. And if these words are well chosen, then they make the film more interesting and more entertaining to watch.

Edited by - Dan on 6/19/2012 9:21:09 PM

Cody McLarge
Senior Member

2668 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 5:04AM
jakerson181
Member

422 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 2:33PM
^ I've got it...subtitles. No one has to say anything. You could use it throughout the scene starting with an "Awkward pre-sex small talk" subtitle right on through to "cleaning cum off of face" at the end.
And you could have a 3rd party verification company on the set to make sure the subtitles added later match what actually happened. We'll have a new industry of penetration verification companies.
LCF All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Non Prevalebunt!
10364 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 2:55PM
Guess that:" I'm going to rip your ass apart" or " you're truly making your way hard in my ass" will suffice
kirby
Member

California
187 Posts
8/06
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 7:25PM
i think you should respect the lady enough to let her be fucked without demanding to know where she is being fucked. the lady's enjoyment of the sex should be your main priority.
 
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 8:05PM
^
A porn movie is made for the viewer and not for the lady in the film. That's why the film needs to cater to the viewer's needs and wants, if it is to succeed in the marketplace.
What you say might be true in a Peeping Tom kind of sex fantasy, where the lady thinks that she is having private sex and doesn't realize that someone else is watching her. Because in that situation the lady is having sex for her own enjoyment and not to show off in front of an audience.
When the lady and her guy are having sex to show off in front of an audience, then they should have enough respect for the audience to show the audience what they are doing, or at least tell the audience by verbally interacting with each other.

kirby
Member

California
187 Posts
8/06
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 8:48PM
you should be content by simply seeing the lady and her guy being intimiate without requesting the lady to tell you what they are doing. the viewer should respect how the lady likes her guy to make love to her without explaining which orifices he is penetrating.
if the lady wants the audience to know, she will tell her guy and he will oblige her by doing so. until then, they are performing as they have been directed while taking artistic liberties to ensure the viewer enjoys an intimate portrayal of their affection.
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 9:00PM
^
In that scene it was the guy who did the penetrating. And he didn't even tell the pretty lady whether he was going to penetrate her pussy or ass.
She was busy sucking another guy's cock at this time. And it looked like she didn't even know if the second guy was going to penetrate her pussy or ass. She only found what hole it was going to be, when the guy was already half-way inside her with his cock.
This pretty lady was in no position to inform the viewer about anything ahead of her penetration. It was the penetrating guy who needed to say something to inform the lady and the audience.
I think you should see this scene first, before you continue to argue about it. Because what you say about it doesn't quite make sense. You obviously haven't seen it.
kirby
Member

California
187 Posts
8/06
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 9:48PM
^ the lady was acting and had signed a contract where all sexual acts had been discussed and agreed upon by all parties involved in the 3way coitus. being that i have been involved in consensual sex on camera before i understand the agreement that transpires before the scene is filmed for public consumption.
i therefore stand by my original advise that you should respect the lady as she enjoys being fucked whilst she performs fellatio on the other man.
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 10:12PM
^
I don't see anything disrespectful in wanting to see better the lady's sexual encounter, when she is doing it for public viewing.
And if you've read my earlier posts in this discussion, then you will know that I have no complaints about the lady's performance. My complaint is about the cameraman who didn't show what he was supposed to show and the fucking guy who at least should've said something to help the viewer understand what he was doing with the lady.
The lady was in no position to inform anyone about anything, because she was in between two horny guys and very busy with them.
Edited by - Dan on 6/20/2012 10:12:37 PM
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 10:23PM
Ya know, if they don't show the anal, it didn't happen.
I don't want to hear about it happening.
If, during the course of the anal segment we see anal action -- even if we don't at the moment of initial penetration -- I'm sure the anal fans will be satisfied.
Note to Directors:
You really should show initial penetration, whether it's anal or vaginal, and capture the girl's facial reactions, as these are among the hottest moments during porn scenes.
A good director would have these transitions blocked-out ahead of time.
Watch some of Quasarman's behind the scenes stuff, where he explains to the performers what is going to happen and how they should move -- and then see it implemented during the actual movies.
Dragon Sign
Deactivated User

3381 Posts
12/13
Posted - Jul 7 2016 : 7:55PM
There's no such thing as an uncertain punisher.



Jump To: