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Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 4:48AM
I've been thinking about making this thread for a while but didn't think it would really fly. IR can be a hot topic on this board. From some reason when people discuss IR it always seem to get kind of heated. With that being said, I know for a lot of people, IR is their favortie niche. Those are the people that i'm making this thread for.
A place where fans of the gerne discuss the "goings on" exclusively. People can talk about their favorite movies or performers, scenes or upcoming releases. A place where Stars,Directors and studioheads can drop information about upcoming releases. Basically if you like seeing Black guys bang white women or White guy railing black women this is the place be. White and Black women banging each other is also cool.
To make this thread work we're going to have to lay some guide rules so to speak.
1. I'm defineing IR as scenes involving black performers. I know technicaly a scene with Priya Rai & Michael Stefano is IR but it doesn't work like that in the porn biz. Lets try keep the talk about BM/WF or WM/BF scenes. If people want to include AM/WF scene I guess i'm cool with that.
2. Lets not have the thread be full of arguments about racist circumstances in the IR genre. What i mean is, no bashing starlets for not doing IR. Lets try and focus on the positive spectrum. Forget the ones that don't do IR and focus on the ones that do.
3. If a poster ask if a starlets does IR or not, Just respond with a simple "yes" or "no". NO hearsay or speculation. A lot of times arguments star because of these types of responses. People can give "updates" about ladies that do add IR to their card.
4. You can still talk about thing in a negative light(gotta follow the TOS). Lets just try to keep it focused on the smut.
I apologize if i'm coming across like a dick for setting rules. I'm not trying to be bossy. It's just i really want to make this thread work. I used to post over at MrMarcus fourm(not a popular place here) because it was the only place I knew to talk about IR porn. Unfortunately that fourm kind of went to shit.Hopefuly this thread will take off and not turn into a racism debate. Maybe a mod can keep a close eye out...
So, Where da white women at!?!
juha
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 5:13AM
From my European point of view this definition is racist to the bone.
I like hot women from all ethnic backgrounds.
And I don't care which color a male has.
This whole big black monster dicks destroying little white trailer trash chicks deeply roots in American history.
IR, as defined by you, is an evidence for a divided society.
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 2:33PM
^Thanks for fucking it up on the very first reply, juha.
This isn't IR as defined by Royal Tee, it's IR as defined by the American porn industry. Check out IAFD and see which scenes they classify as IR if you don't believe me.
kellydivine
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 3:27PM
I love IR!! I don't discriminate ;) I love fucking all colors of the rainbow!
... hope this helps cheer up the thread....

xoxo Kelly Divine

juha
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 4:07PM
So what?
Its "The definitive IR thread" and I posted my observations on IR.
I didn't post any hate or insult.
Why is Tyler Knight hardly ever mentioned in IR threads?
Because he treats women of all color with respect.
Sadly IR porn is not about respectful sex between people of all colors.
Edited by - juha on 1/25/2009 4:12:11 PM
 
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 4:40PM
^You're right.
Sort of.
Much of IR porn is indeed quite disgusting and bigoted, and many of the fans of IR porn complain about that, as you'll see in so many of the other IR threads here.
Unfortunately, many also don't complain, and indeed like the racist overtones.
My point to you was that it isn't necessarily fair to accuse the OP of a racist characterization of IR porn, because it wasn't his characterization that he was using. It was the general consensus in the porn biz. He's just working with what's already there.
Should he start a thread that tries to destroy the characterization itself instead? Perhaps. Threads like that are probably needed. But not every thread has to be an attempt to change the world (or at least the porn world). Sometimes you just want to start a thread about hot fuck scenes, and IMO, that's all he was doing.
Why did he word the "rules" as he did? Because that's how they're already worded in the biz. He was just making sure everyone was on the same page. Again, I think it's unfair to categorize that as him being racist; it's just him working with the consensus definition that already exists. IR is a thorny topic as it is, but it's even more difficult when not everyone is working with the same definition.
[edit: and I quite like Tyler Knight's work, BTW.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 1/25/2009 4:41:23 PM
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 5:24PM
As a black male, I fucking hate that a scene is only IR if it involves a black person. I wish it was different but it's not and i can't really do anything about. After years of complaining about it i just realize that i don't really give a shit anymore. A lot of times IR discussion get side tracked like this and rarely do people actually talk about the movies or the scenes themself.
Please, don't act like the stigma around IR is only a american thing.
As for the "where da white women" line, I take it you've never seen Blazing Saddles.
Thanks to KB for seeing what I was trying to do.
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 5:27PM
lol, thanks Kelly D.
I recently picked up Lex the Impaler 4 & Souled out 2, both of your scenes were great. I just picked up Kelly's Black Book because of that. Keep rockin babe.
Edited by - royal tee on 1/25/2009 5:27:20 PM
juha
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 5:48PM
I don't say that color isn't an issue in Europe or in other parts of the world.
But from my observation the strong stigma around IR is an American thing.
Most European porn girls like for example Katja Kassin do IR right from the beginning. For many American porn stars IR is something they only do for the extra cash or when their career is in decline.
I think it's ridiculous that fucking a person with a different color is labeled as something worth an extra compensation like a DP or a gangbang.
Hm, Blazing Saddles has 7.8/10 on imdb.
I think I should check it out.
Fireyfox
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:04PM
Hi Kelly, its great that you love all colors and I've seen you in plenty of IR scenes with Black men but have you ever fucked Asian or Arab men either on film or in your personal life?
Edited by - FireyFox on 1/25/2009 6:08:55 PM
Fireyfox
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:06PM
Ooops Double post.
Edited by - FireyFox on 1/25/2009 6:07:22 PM
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:08PM
I 100% agree.
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:22PM
So, What new titles are you guys checking out now? I think later this week I'm going to pick up Interracial Milf Orgy 2. I own the first one and was kind of let down. The action was good but i wasn't a fan of most of the female cast. This time around Kendra Secert and Jocelyn Stone are back with Trinity Post, Heidi Mayne, Miss Lady and Syren. I love a good orgy, so i'll be checking this one out.
As soon as ADE has it available to buy i'll pick up Abominable Black Man 12(god, i hate that title). I've made my feeling about Hush Hush gimmick before so i'll leave it alone for now. A good cast will make me check out a movie regardless. Sarah Vandella, Andi Heart, Mackenzee Pirece and Natasha fucking Nice is a bomb cast.
VernonRoberts
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:25PM
I just checked out Black Owned #3 and it was great, I highly recommend it to anyone into IR.
Hey Kelly I'm still waited on my copy of Oil Overload #2 to get here I bought it especially for your scene, can't wait to check it out.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 6:28PM
^Hot news: Sunny Lane's net next solo scene will be interracial....
 
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 7:38PM
^ Thank you for trying your best to derail the thread. Your efforts are appreciated.
The next movie I check out will be Up That White Ass.
Skyscrapper
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 10:35PM
Sunny Lane is working at the Bunny Ranch. Bet she's doing IR there.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 10:53PM
^Yeah, according to her website she's there Monday and Tuesday this week. I wonder if girls can turn down black guys just for being black at the ranch. I don't know what kind of 'rules' they have there in regards to the girls turning down customers.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 12:06AM
^Those who believe that race is a differentiation of human beings are racist...so get over yourself..
BTW, we see hat the OP defines interracial, what is the definition of black?
Edited by - Clam Digger on 1/26/2009 12:13:39 AM
kellydivine
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 12:25AM
Thanks I hoe you enjoy my black book ;) and my latest scenes!! I have never done any arabic or Indian guys (yet) but in my personal life I have been with asian men.
xoxo Kelly Divine
Thunderbird
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 1:17AM
I assume you are the performer formerly known as Tee Real!!
juha
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 1:38AM
The OP already made it clear that he's aware of the problems of the term IR and its implications.
For lack of a better term he asked for the best IR scenes.
Don't you think its time we start listing the hottest scenes?
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 1:45AM
^The OP's definition is:
1. I'm defineing IR as scenes involving black performers....
That is racist and absurd....what does black mean?
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:29AM
I agree with you that it's absurd. But it's the world we live in.
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:30AM
Nah. He used to post here some time ago.
 
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:32AM
I'm not much for anal or LT but i might still check this one out.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:40AM
if you agree, why perpetuate it?
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:48AM
Because i'm not in a position to change it. What you think this is a new thing. I've been around biz messageboards for about 3-4 years now and people have been complaining about it the whole time. What has changed? Not a damn thing. What do you think I should do? Boycott? Write a letter to company and angencies asking them to change their policies? Do you believe they havent heard our complaints. No, they heard them, they just don't give a shit.If you don't like the ideals behind the thread, don't post in it. That simple.
See what I mean, IR discussions always get sidetracked. I'm not immune to it and it's my own damn thread, lol.
Edited by - royal tee on 1/26/2009 2:49:43 AM
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 3:50AM
^change starts with you..
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 9:17AM
@Clam Digger: suppose we define "Black", within Africa, as those who trace their ancestry to various regions of sub-Saharan African for the past 100,000 years or more, without having any ancestry traced to another continent. Suppose further that we define "Black", outside of Africa, as those who are members of the "African Diaspora": those who are descended from the fairly recent (within the last 500 years) dispersal of the above-defined "Black" peoples of sub-Saharan Africa, mostly through the Atlantic slave trade, to the Americas. The term "African Diaspora" also includes those defined above as "Black" who have migrated from sub-Saharan Africa (again, within the last 500 years) to other parts of the world.
As a final caveat, some people will be defined as "Black" if the vast majority of their ancestors are "Black" from the definition above, even if a small portion of their recent ancestry (within the last 500 years) are not "Black" as defined above. (e.g. someone for whom 15 of their 16 great-great-grandparents are "Black" as defined above).
If we define "Black" in these terms, can we have our thread back?
Further, I believe there are two problems with your posts above.
First, in the post about Sunny Lane, you claim that her next solo scene is IR. "IR" of course refers to "Interracial", which means "between races", but if you don't believe that different races exist, as you have claimed several times here at ADT, then a scene with herself cannot be "between races", as there is only one race. So, even using your understanding of the world, your post doesn't make sense.
Second, you claim that "[t]hose who believe that race is a differentiation of human beings are racist", but this is not the definition of "racism" in any source. Rather, "racism" has as the important part of the definition that one race is inherently superior to another. See these various definitions of "racism", from an encyclopedia, a dictionary, a government document, etc.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 10:07AM
All of us. You, me and Sunny Lane, are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago.. DNA is an amazing thing.
If you, or more particularly, the op, enjoy watching blue eyed blonds fucking darkly complected men, I say Mazal tov. I just object to definitions of people based on old myths, hatred and ignorance.
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 10:51AM
Clam Digger- can you please allow people to discuss IR movies without continuing your same argument for the 105th time. We've heard it thanks.
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 11:14AM
@Clam Digger: I know we all descended from Africa. That's why I took special care to word things as I did. My point was that I'd be defining as "Black" those whose ancestry can be traced to only Africa, as opposed to other continents after their ancestors left Africa.
In other words, I was making a distinction between those whose ancestors left Africa 30,000-60,000 years ago and those whose ancestors left 400-500 years ago.
So there are no old myths going on here, other than I thought it was 100,000 instead of 60,000 years (see why below). There's certainly no hatred going on, as I love all races. And there's no ignorance, as I was aware of much of the same research that you're talking about (again, with the exception of the discrepancy of dates - and again, see below).
__________________________________________________________________________________
I just read the details in the article you quoted, and even the scientist whose work is being cited says, in response to the statement that his research does not prove that our common male ancestor is the "original man":
So, he's actually not saying that modern humans are only 60,000 years old, but that this particular male, who lived 60,000 years ago, is our common male ancestor. That makes sense. That explains why I had the 100,000 year date in my head too, because again in the article, it talks about how modern humans may have been in existence as much as 100,00 to 150,000 years ago. Wells also says that we have a common female ancestor who is 150,000 years old. I find that particularly interesting, because what it likely means is that modern humans existed for 90,000 years or so before one particular male "ruled the roost', so to speak, becoming the only male whose offspring survived. As to why that occurred, I'm sure there are several reasons, but that dude is definitely the ultimate stud.
[edit: Steph - sorry, I posted this before I saw that you had posted, so I'll leave it here.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 1/26/2009 11:17:22 AM
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 11:20AM
Has anyone seen Black Rayne yet? Any thoughts/reviews?
Ramsey
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 11:33AM
I thought about getting it but I changed my mind because it has WM/BF action in it while I mostly care for BM/WF action!
 
Al Prazolam
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 11:59AM
if ur not into IR, kelly divine's scene in oil overload 2 might make you reconsider. she stole the show against some pretty tough competition. thanks kelly!
Skyscrapper
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 12:27PM
Can we all just fuck and get along?
Ida Lupino
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 1:07PM
Nope. WM/BF action is just not humiliating enough.
I only get off on BM/WF rape fantasies.
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 1:12PM
^Um, thanks?
Fireyfox
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 3:37PM
I used to go to that forum. It makes me laugh how vicious posters there in the way they attack and insult girls who haven't or don't do IR yet as soon as they do one scene, they are the greatest perfomers ever and they have always thought so. LOL!
Ramsey
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 5:19PM
Ever heard of ghettogaggers.com?
Ida Lupino
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 6:10PM
^
That site is pure 3 Stooges comedy!
BM/WF is really for those who don't have the balls to do it themselves.
tritone
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 6:18PM
This one should make JennaRulezHappy:
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Its a new one from Alexander DeVoe focusing on WM/BF anal sex.
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 7:02PM
Don't have the balls to do what themselves?
kellydivine
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 9:52PM
Thank you kindly, sir ;)
Another great IR title is "kelly's Black Book" ... LOL, had to toot my own horn further, Im such a girl at times :) sorry....
Another one I like is "Big Night Sticks, Little White Chicks 2" ....Tori Black is in a scene, and so am I!!
xoxo Kelly Divine
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 2:12AM
Yeah, I still got love for that place but it's not what it used to be. There are still good people there but the dipshits run the house now.
Royal Tee
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 2:38AM
I just wanted to give a shout to Jules Jordan and Lex for putting out some fucking quality release as of late. I rarely buy expensive dvds. I'm kind of a tight ass when it comes to spending money on smut. Lex & Jules made it impossible to ignore with Lex the Impaler 3 & 4.
I've always been a fan of Lex. I know Sean Michaels has been around longer but i'll always think of Lex as the "OG" of IR porn. Jules is always money so i picked up LTI 3 right after it's release. Jenna Haze, Nadia Styles, Shyla Styles, Brianna Love, Gina Lynn and Alexis Amore. That's a ridiculous cast for a non-ir release. Those types of casting rarely happen in IR titles. All the scenes were great. Brianna Love and Gina Lynn's were my favorties.
So naturally, When LTI 4 came out I was all over. Once again I was not disapointed. Tiffany Mynx, Kelly Divine, Jenny Hendrix, Gianna, Lisa Ann and Raven Black. Another money cast. Kelly Divine, Gianna and Lisa Ann's scene were great. Hendrix was great in her first IR scene. Not really a fan of the other 2 ladies but both of their scenes are still good.
So yeah, Keep up the good work fellas and can't wait for Lex the Impaler 5.
Knuckle Kids
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 11:22AM
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, black guys, blah blah blah, white girls, blah blah blah.
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kaiser1one
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 1:09PM
Gianna's scene in Big Titty White Girls was good. Love how her breasts just bounce like crazy.
Claire Dames scene in Big Titty White Girls 2 was hot as well.
JennaRulez2006
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 2:28PM
If it is black guys with white women, not for me.
I will stick to the white guy with black women.
Tap That Ass White Boy, Feeling Black series, White Chocolate series are great
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