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Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
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9/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 4:02PM
Heidi. Do what you want to do. If you let agents and "America's" view of this sway you then I might say this is the wrog line of work for you. You and only you make your own choices in life. If you think of black people as being the same as any other person, I wouldn't see why "IR" would be a problem or even a question for you. Its easy to say "I love black men" etc. That doesn't mean you or whomever really mean it. It just means they are trying to appease their fans. Especially the black ones.
As far as degrading titles. I agree with you. Stay away from them. But there are plenty of people/ companies who do "IR" titles that aren't degrading. People and companies like ; Elgent Angel, Jules Jordan Video, Evil Angel, Vouyer Media and so on. So I think that whole "not wanting to be in a degrading title" is a very bad excuse.
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Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 9/21/2009 11:36:10 AM
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 4:04PM
LMAO! I know right. I don't know why girls would want to please those types of people as opposed to people who view all others the same?!
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Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 4:10PM
One thing I do find amusing is how many girls come in here as of late and tell us straight up thaat their Agency is the ones telling them not to do it. Or that America doesn't like it. A lot of suspicions confirmed. Someone should make an agency called Black & White and their slogan could be "Where race isn't an issue.".
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Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 5:05PM
This whole America doesn't like it is bullshit. I mean in this thread a lot of us already showed this by naming the hottest girls who do interracial compared to the ones that don't. The most populair girls are girls who DO interracial and we got all the names to proof this!
 
tritone
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 5:13PM
Ahhh... music to my ears. :) I was wondering about you and IR, but was afraid to ask in your thread because I didn't want to disrupt.
Of course! But do it on your terms. I agree that the sex should be about both parties having fun and not about "destroying xxxx white girl ..." ,etc. Why don't you start small first and see if you can do a photoshoot with established talent like Tyler Knight or Sean Michaels.
I would love seeing your natural, blonde bush taking some black cock in vivid hi-res photos!
With respect to video work, here are a few of the IR producers who DO NOT promote the negative and degrading stereotypes. They are: Lexington Steele (Mercenary Pictures), LT (Elegant Angel Video), Alexander Devoe (Jules Jordan), Justin Slayer (Justin Slayer International). If you work with one of these guys then rest assured it will be about the SEX and the worship of your ASSETS. Period. No cuckolding or "we destroy white bitchez!!!" or stuff like that.
Actually, I also think Naughty America shoots Interracial stuff once in a blue moon. They don't make a big deal about it, it just so happens they might use black talent on one of their established sites. They generally are pretty "high brow" and focused on fun & fantasy. I think an IR scene with them might be more within your comfort zone.
Anyway, just some suggestions. Thank you for being curious! :)
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 5:24PM
Yeah this is true to a degree. But there are also a lot of people who don't like it. So the "America not liking it" does seem to hold some weight.
*****The Dr. of Nasty*****
Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 5:43PM
So because of a few bad apples they're gonna impugn an entire country? Not all Americans are a bunch of intolerant rednecks. If that were the case, you guys would have a different President in the White House.
Anadin
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307 Posts
4/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 7:05PM
Well she's been on the babe channels so she's over here but I take it you mean her porn career is based over there in the US which unfortunately gives me my answer.
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 7:11PM
Hey, its the girls logic. What are you telling me for?! lol
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Fernandez
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 7:19PM
This thread sounds like Barack and Acorn discussing public finance!


Sheldon
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9/04
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 8:09PM
Who are these agents? Why don't they identify themselves? Don't they have the guts to stand by their views in public? Did they swear you to secrecy?
Nina Hartley did interracial early on in her career, and she went on to do more porn than any other woman in history.
"America does not dig it"? First, the sales figures say otherwise. Secondly, the American public just elected its first black President. Ever hear of Barack Obama?
Nimrod
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624 Posts
7/09
Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 8:20PM
Believe it or not, most people are that way in this country. Doesn't matter if they are from the South or North.
Nevaquit
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 8:37PM
Hey Sheldon,
These are very good questions that you asked! For example, your first two questions are brilliant! I too would like to know who these agents are?
And Why won't they identify themselves?
More importantly, why hasn't anyone ever released that info?
I find it disturbing that there is a fear or unwillingness amongst the Company owners, White female talent and producers to reveal the identity of these agents.
In Ass Everywhere 2 BTS, Sandra Romain expounds on the subject matter and seems to reveal the identity of one said agent or agency! :)
CapitalM
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 8:52PM
Interesting, very interesting, now this is what I'm talking about!
 
Sheldon
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 11:16PM
Thanks!
Some forms of job discrimination in the porn business have been beaten, but they come back in different forms, such as the ones being discussed on this thread.
The anti-porn folks who want to put this industry out of business are always looking for an angle to score that knockout blow. Eventually, they will use the racially discriminatory policies still prevalent in Porn Valley in an attempt to do just that, and will try to involve President Obama in that effort. The industry should not wait until it is too late, but should be pro-active. But, as the chairman of the Board of Directors of the AIM Foundation, Ernest Greene, has stated (I'm paraphrasing him), the industry tends to wait until the last minute to defend itself against the more creative attacks on its existence.
Based on the experience of Jordan Lee, a porn star of the 1990 with neo-Nazi sympathies who refused to work with Jews as well as Blacks, this can be done. (Folks who are interested in more on this might want to google the Dallas Morning Star and her name). If you substitute "black man" with "Jewish man", I seriously doubt we'd be having this discussion.
Edited by - Sheldon on 9/20/2009 11:18:59 PM
franco
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 11:31PM
obama isnt black. he is bi-racial.
I dont understand american pornstars. Who is bigger than Nina Hartley?
In europe, if the girls have sex with a guy of any color, it doesnt matter, they are still a porn actresses. You still have sex on camera. Example is amy reid who never does IR but I have seen her in a scene with a bunch of guys jerking off on her face. Is having sex with a black man that much worse?
Is there a guy out there who wont wanna have sex with Lisa Ann or Julia Ann because they do IR.
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 11:31PM
I couldn't let this pass without calling you on it.
Sheldon
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 12:09AM
It's possible to be both.
More importantly, he has identified himself in public as both African-American and black. He is only bi-racial in the narrow genetic sense.
HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 2:15AM
Ok, so read the whole thing thru. Let me see if I can answer some of this without too much confusion:
Heidi. Do what you want to do. If you let agents and "America's" view of this sway you then I might say this is the wrog line of work for you. You and only you make your own choices in life.
>> Yes, I always do.. and have been thru a few agents because of it ;o)
If you think of black people as being the same as any other person, I wouldn't see why "IR" would be a problem or even a question for you. Its easy to say "I love black men" etc. That doesn't mean you or whomever really mean it. It just means they are trying to appease their fans. Especially the black ones.
>> I agree with you for a lot of gals, but personally for me, its true. I have had a huge crush on Morgan Freeman for years! Have casually dated black men in my personal life, and have many black friends, so not a question there. I haven't delved all that much into IR porn as far as watching it, but the stuff I had viewed was "rough".
I have actually been asked to do IR from the beginning from my fans, so I am not trying to please or displease anyone, I was just hesitant more due to the production aspect of it more than the talent, and also going by advice from my past agents... which maybe is not necessarily the best idea, apparently!
As far as degrading titles. I agree with you. Stay away from them. But their are plenty of people/ companies who do "IR" titles that aren't degrading. People and companies like ; Elgent Angel, Jules Jordan Video, Evil Angel, Vouyer Media and so on. So I think that whole "not wanting to be in a degrading title" is a very bad excuse.
>> Again, thanks for the enlightenment. I met Lex at the Erotica LA show and he was very nice and very hot...visit my myspace, there's a pic to prove it ;o)
I told him I would love to work with him, and to date, it hasn't happened yet but you never know! Also Jules and I have spoken briefly online and I was not aware he did anything other than anal.. something to think about there, too...
I think maybe a lot of gals might also shy away from IR due to the guys' penis size. I don't have an issue with that, (well, maybe not that one star with the arm sized cock though!! LOL) and some of you have seen that "large toy" video for Anilos, so I can take it, for a petite gal of 100 lbs its funny that I can, but I think a lot of gals just won't try it.. Perhaps thats another side of it?
HH
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HeidiHanson
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76 Posts
5/09
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 2:28AM
HI Tritone, you should have asked! Something about me that should be known, anyone can ask me anything, and if its not totally offensive, I am happy to answer it!
For your post below, see my replies >>>>
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HeidiHanson wrote:
I personally love black men, and would love to do IR .. however several agents I have had have advised me against it because I am too new, and like someone else said, America does not dig it. Well, maybe but who cares! However, aside from the obvious perks of being a porn star, there is also the business side of it, so you can continue to enjoy the perks of it.
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Ahhh... music to my ears. :) I was wondering about you and IR, but was afraid to ask in your thread because I didn't want to disrupt.
>> would have been a welcome question, and happily answered... as am doing now; no disruption at all.
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Should I do IR, yay or nay?
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Of course! But do it on your terms. I agree that the sex should be about both parties having fun and not about "destroying xxxx white girl ..." ,etc. Why don't you start small first and see if you can do a photoshoot with established talent like Tyler Knight or Sean Michaels.
>> Exactly.. that was my total hesitation...
>> Tyler and Sean? Ok cool! So now I have to find out how to get a hold of those guys or whomever sets up shoots with them and see what gives.
I would love seeing your natural, blonde bush taking some black cock in vivid hi-res photos!
>> me too...the contrast is hot!
With respect to video work, here are a few of the IR producers who DO NOT promote the negative and degrading stereotypes. They are: Lexington Steele (Mercenary Pictures), LT (Elegant Angel Video), Alexander Devoe (Jules Jordan), Justin Slayer (Justin Slayer International). If you work with one of these guys then rest assured it will be about the SEX and the worship of your ASSETS. Period. No cuckolding or "we destroy white bitchez!!!" or stuff like that.
>> Thanks Tritone. Thats what I would be interested in. Believe it or not, even though I am a "porn star" I am still very much a lady, complete with impeccable manners and respect for others, so I always expect the same in every scene I do.. ;O)
Actually, I also think Naughty America shoots Interracial stuff once in a blue moon. They don't make a big deal about it, it just so happens they might use black talent on one of their established sites. They generally are pretty "high brow" and focused on fun & fantasy. I think an IR scene with them might be more within your comfort zone.
>> I have a shoot upcoming with them and I will ask...
Anyway, just some suggestions. Thank you for being curious! :)
>> Thanks, too, appreciate the input and info!
HH
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Heidi Hanson - Blonde With Bush Baby!!
kerrylouiselove
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3/09
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 3:42AM
CAPITAL M as you will see my 1st ever 2 scenes were with shaft for Killergram so I thinks its pretty Obv I like black guys
Would be interesting to know how many of u prefer the IR ... Im a big fan of Mandingo - Hes a friend of mine ..

kerrylouisexxx.blogspot.com

Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 11:44AM
Kerry, as you can see from most of the members posts around here, a lot of us are interested in "IR". But its not really up to us. Its up to you. This would be something for the polls anyways. But my question to you would be why should it matter how many of us want to see it or not? Personally I wouldn't care if only one person wanted to see it. If I viewed everyone in the same light, it wouldn't matter anyways. It would just be another day on set not "IR scene day" or whatever. But hey, that's just my opinion.
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CapitalM
Member

84 Posts
9/09
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 1:37PM
Kerry Louise,
I initially thought that you were full of Ish, but maybe I put the cart before the horse. You seem to be down to earth, and sincere..therefore, you didn't deserve to be on the receiving end of the jab I threw at you....forgive me
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 2:44PM
And it's our job to debunk their logic because it's not based on any facts. Unless they had their own poll and did an interview with every pornfan in the world...
I mean just check ADT for example. how many anti-IR fans are there here compared to pro-IR?
 
HeidiHanson
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5/09
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 3:15PM
I dunno, how many of each ARE there? I think thats a loaded question, as well. I think some people that are into IR will not admit it, and others wanting to be PC will say they are, but are not. Others will go by whatever peer pressure they will have either pro or con in their inner circles.
If someone sets up a poll, it would be interesting to see how many people participate. Maybe I will go over there and do that now, if I can figure it out!
xo
HH
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 6:12PM
"Job" LOL! Its not like we are getting paid to "debunk their logic". Its their own opinion from what they have heard through the grapevine and what their managers and agents tell them. Plus I don't have enough money to fund a "Million Man Porn March" so I just listen and sit on the sidelines.......for the most part.
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messhuga
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 10:25PM
Thanks for being honest.
I guess most posters in this thread already know the deal with all the Politics that go on in PornValley.At the end of the day Its up to the performer herself weather or not to allow other people to Intervene in her personal choices.
Edited by - messhuga on 9/21/2009 10:28:36 PM
kerrylouiselove
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3/09
Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 1:55AM
Hey Capital M, No worries seriously I value all of your opinions and all u guys will get from me is honesty, If that offends some people I apologise but I wont be bullshitting anyone - what u see is what u get.. Anyway... an update....
Tomorrow I will be with Immoral Productions for FUCK A FAN until 9pm
and then straight after I head to Miami for Brazzers
Landing at 730am my call time being 8am (eeek) I will then be shooting wednesday and Thursday for them
Wednesday I will be shooting with Asa Akira, Isis Love, Enzo and Carlo
and Thursday I will be shooting day in the life of a pornstar with Brannon
Straight after I fly back to LA landing at Midnight and then need to be in San Diego for 10am - I maybe dead at some point but I love it....
Happy Days!
kerrylouisexxx.blogspot.com
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
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Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 1:58AM
Sounds like a hell of a week. Christ Kerry! You got some energizers on you somewhere?
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BrazilianDude
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Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 9:47AM
man i don't know but heidi doesn't sound like someone trying to appease her fans,it's been my experience that girls who don't want to do IR just flat out say it or make up bullshit excuses when asked about it and one thing about them is that they usually try to avoid the subject at all costs so i might be wrong but i really think heidi was being honest.

Edited by - braziliandude on 9/22/2009 9:56:32 AM

Nora_Hot
Member

43 Posts
7/09
Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 12:03PM
Heidi Hanson
Your best bet is to do strictly 1 boy to 1 girl IR and stay away from the gangbangs. Unless it 2 girls to 1 boy.
I personally prefer the 1 on 1s than multiple partners.
Here are the hottest Black male performer that I've had my eye on.
You and Lex Steele = Hot scene
You and Richard Man = Hot scene
You and Justin Slayer = Hot scene
You and Prince Yashua = Hot scene
You and Rico Strong = Hot scene
You and Mr Marcus = Hot scene
You get my drift.

Edited by - nora_hot on 9/22/2009 12:09:06 PM

HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 3:38PM
HI Brazilian dude, yes I was being honest. I just informed my agent, at OC Modeling, that he could go ahead and book IR for me if its like Nora suggested and not meant to be degrading to either party.
I do not do anal, so a 1 on 1 is all I would probably do, anyway, and YES Nora, those you listed would be hotttt!!
Did anyone check the poll I set up? Havent' cruised over there yet. guess I better!
xo
HH
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Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 4:15PM
^ OMG! We have changed the mind of one of the masses in this Industry, lol. Maybe anything can happen. Maybe there is "a movement a comin". lol
Heidi, just stick with bigger companies like the ones mentioned and you will be fine. They usually treat their girls great. If you have questions again as to who are good companies/directors, etc, feel free to ask.
*****The Dr. of Nasty*****
ntfighter
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7/07
Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 4:22PM
I seem to remember reading something about a set of guideline drawn up by an attorney for the adult movie industry. It was years ago. It listed in order of importance taboo's and no-no's. Interracial sex was high on the list. Before reading it I had no idea that ir was considered a nation/industry wide issue. If anyone knows what I'm talking about I'd love to see it again.
 
HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 4:32PM
Well if anyone starts pushing Scat, leave me out of it!!
;o)
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 4:47PM
Ewwww! Gross! I don't wanna see you in "two girls and a big gulp" Heidi.
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HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 4:56PM
Although thats really funny, I am with ya Nasty!!
tritone
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 5:27PM
Great news! I hope something materializes. Ever since I first saw you on Anilos I knew you were someone to keep an eye on!
I'll check that out now.
HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 6:15PM
Proof! LOL
http://www.ocmodeling.com/heidi-hanson.html
Plus, some good pix!
Heidi Hanson - Blonde With Bush Baby!!
Nora_Hot
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 7:28PM
Oops that's strange, I honestly thought I was talking to THIS Heidi Hanson
http://www.chrudat.com/heidi_hanson_pics.html
HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 7:36PM
Nope. THAT Heidi Hanson is actually Heidi Marks. She used that stage name one or two times for Playboy Cyber Girl and another Playboy thing, and only modeled a handful of times after that, she's been out of circulation for years.
Heidi Hanson is my actual name, and I have a ton of stuff out there, so I win by default on two counts.... oh well for her! LOL
;o)
Heidi Hanson - Blonde With Bush Baby!!
Nora_Hot
Member

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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 7:44PM
No worries babe. But this is not the first time two girls in the industry has had the same name, but that time both being active.
Edited by - nora_hot on 9/23/2009 7:45:20 PM
Nora_Hot
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 7:46PM
Any your pics are nice Heidi:)
Edited by - nora_hot on 9/23/2009 7:47:46 PM
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 10:05PM
heidi är du från sverige? jag tror inte att du är det men jag har läst på andra forum att du är svensk ... kul att se någon från sverige här i allafall lol
HeidiHanson
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 10:51PM
HI Nora, thanks!
And to the Brazilian dude trying to harass me LOL:
Nej , jag er första generation Amerikanen. mom ren svensk , kom över när litten. Pappa inföding Amerikanen och svensk. Tack själv för be om ändå!
Heidi Hanson - Blonde With Bush Baby!!
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 1:09AM
The Cambria List. Named after the attorney who drafted it after the wave of prosecutions in the US during the 80s. It's long discredited I think.
CapitalM
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9/09
Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 1:44PM
Heidi,
Yes Ma'am!...you get a thumbs up for taking a stand, and going with what you feel. You're on my radar, and I look forward to seeing your work....I hope that the rest of the females in the industry who feel the way you do/did are following this thread..
ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 2:35PM
Thanks.
I misremembered, IR is the last item on the list. It's the only item that remains controversial.
HeidiHanson
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5/09
Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 2:44PM
Yes, thanks... we'll see what happens next!
I will keep posting in the other "hardcore updates thread" i have, so watch there!
xo
HH
HeidiHanson
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5/09
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:39PM
HI all.. will be on Harley's XXX Radio show Tues 7-8 pm PST. Be sure to call in if you wanna ask me anything!
Here is the link to the show:
http://latalkradio.com/Harley.php
Hear you there!!
HH
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