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| MrChrisEvans Member  Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 |  Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 12:46PMA camera... [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 12:58PM [Link] |
| 7_and_a_quarter Member 163 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 12:58PM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:02PM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:02PM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:04PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:06PM do a search.Is Porn Prostitution? Female performers technically prostitutes? There are more threads about it so I only bothered to link 2 of them. This topic has been discussed into the ground on multiple occasions in several threads. [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:12PM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:15PM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:29PM Also my point isn't that porn is or isn't prostitution... we all already know the answer to that. My point was more to find out how people try to rationalize behavior. Like trying to act like your not a prostitute if you do porn because it's (place your reason here), and that's why I'm not a prostitute etc etc etc.. [Link] |
| Dither Persona non grata I love America 650 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:32PM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:32PM
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:38PM Therefore, if someone is receiving money for the express purpose of having sex with someone else as opposed to getting money to be in a film during which they will have sex, there is no difference between being in porn movies and prostitution. That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with it either way. [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 2:01PM as far as prejudice goes..who cares, once you get into porn you can expect to get labeled all kinds of fun names...sticks and stones etc etc [Link] |
| LorpolSontash Member 6 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 3:38PM Prostitution is not protected by any written law or common law. [Link] |
| Tommy Kaye Member 135 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 3:39PM [Link] |
| Uppercut Member 74 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 5:00PM [Link] |
| wusshater spunkdthemovie.com I'd rather go to work and be abused by others than stay at home and abuse myself 197 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 5:14PM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 5:23PM [Link] |
| Stephan Member Mmmm kitty kitty! 46 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 7:13PM One hundred years ago, the only mediums one could experience sex was either having it with another person, imagining it, reading about it, or looking at paintings of it. As movies are, clearly, a means of conveying 'speech', it's almost impossible to restrict pornography, without restricting free speech. If movies weren't protected constitutionally the same way the written word is, there probably wouldn't be a legal porn industry. Attitudes towards prostitutes have changed over the past hundred years as well. As we focus more and more on individual privacy rights over enforcing social morals with laws, I think eventually prostitution (at least in some forms) will eventually become legal. Certainly, we don't view prostitutes with the same type of derision as even only fifty years ago. I think the more we start to see upper level prostitutes in the news, movies, and music, the more we'll start seeing public acceptance of them. Something important to consider, though, is that the role of an adult actress and a prostitute is different. A prostitute is far more like a stripper, as their job is more to provide an enjoyable experience to the client, while an actress's job is to simply appear as though she's enjoying herself. Stephan [Link] |
| threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 8:48AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 10:08AM [Link] |
| TheDevilinMissJones Member 67 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 10:43AM "Leave the coins on the dresser and hit the door!" [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 10:52AM Someone who gives a shit. Edited by - randomprecision on 3/26/2008 10:53:04 AM [Link] |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 11:47AM sigh why do people ask these dumb questions and why do so few people in this biz know the real answer? OK Last time I do not pay the performers for having sex I pay them for signing over the copyright they have on their performance, plain and simple. that copyright is transferred to me via the model release, they dont sign it they dont get paid they get paid after the fact when they do sign it muddy it anyway you want but thats how it is and thats how the courts saw it in freeman v los angeles [Link] |
| bigdawg Member 127 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 12:45PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 1:11PM If you buy a woman an expensive lobster dinner and take her home and fuck her brains out, it's a date. If you skip the formalities, it's a crime. Pfft! Edited by - randomprecision on 3/26/2008 1:12:03 PM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 1:35PM "I do not pay the performers for having sex I pay them for signing over the copyright they have on their performance, plain and simple." SHIT!!! I was always paying performers to have sex with each other, damn it I got it all wrong!!! Also whats wrong with being a prostitute.. A porn girl has to be on set for 6 to 8 hours, get fucked bare back for an hour or so and walk out with a taxable $1000.00 check in the mail. A prostitute (or a porn chick who does "privates") goes to a hotel fucks some guy for 10 minutes and walks out with a few grand cash so who's the fool? [Link] |
| TheDevilinMissJones Member 67 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 1:41PM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 1:51PM [Link] |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 2:59PM The problem with porn these days is we have too many people in this biz with no real knowledge of the biz. [Link] |
| TheDevilinMissJones Member 67 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 3:19PM I know that most girls seem to do porn out of vengeance or some form of spite. I say do it because you're the nastiest whore that can exude sheer depraved sexuality. Balls to the walls, baby! I guess I was a bit off topic there. Oops, I did it again! Edited by - TheDevilinMissJones on 3/26/2008 3:23:36 PM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 4:47PM [Link] |
| Rico1650 Member Living the Dream 414 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 8:40PM [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 9:54PM [Link] |
| TJCummings Member 398 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 6:37AM [Link] |
| TheDevilinMissJones Member 67 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 9:23AM mmm. ;-) [Link] |
| Stephan Member Mmmm kitty kitty! 46 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 10:38AM [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 11:35AM also Mike South I agree with you 100%, even worse is the "I want to be a Director" crew. [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 1:45PM [Link] |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 1:50PM The photographer owns the copyright on the image, the model owns the copyright on his/her likeness. The purpose of the model release is to transfer the ownership of that copyright from model to photographer (or photographer to model in the form of a photographers release.) Now you know [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 1:58PM [Note to self: Another dead-end thread. Avoid all further involvement.] [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 3:02PM I see that you also like to insult people you don't even know... "With that little nugget, you've established that you're a turd piling turds." see what I mean... note to self, see if Bob answers [Link] |
| PuckerPounder Deactivated User 136 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 3:08PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 4:12PM Case in point, I shot a scene a while back (last May), the guy refused to sign the release = no pay for him AND I cannot do anything with the footage. Here's my issue with this whole thing: I was casting for a feature a few months back (I put up some ads, looked at model agent stuff, etc) and one day I got a call from a girl who says that she's interested in being in a movie. She asks me what the film is and I explain that while it does have hardcore sex in it, it's a movie so her ability to act and read dialogue is more important than her ability to give head. She says that's fine and asks the pay. I explain that we pay day rates based on the size of the role. She then asks if she would get more for doing an anal scene. Again I explain that pay is based on the size of the role not the ability to perform certain sex acts. She responds with, and I quote, "so a girl who does anal and squirting isn't gonna get anything extra?" The point of all this: model releases, cameras, and lighting aside (as well as the fact that most prostitutes don't accept business checks), if I were to pay an actress more get fucked in the ass on camera than I would for her to suck a dick on camera, than I don't see how that differs from paying a prostitute presumably more to get fucked in the ass than suck a dick. There are very few porn studios that I know of that don't adjust their actors salaries based on what they will and will not do on screen. Men and women who agree willing to do "kinkier" things will get more money to do them whether they're done on film or in the privacy of a john's home. At the end of the day, all that matters is how much bang has been gotten for your buck. EDIT: The above is NOT to imply a lack of respect for anyone engaged in either profession. It's simply a statement of the somewhat obvious similarities in payment for the two. Edited by - john lyons on 3/27/2008 4:14:00 PM [Link] |
| Bobcat Senior Member 1490 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 5:03PM [Link] |
| Stephan Member Mmmm kitty kitty! 46 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 5:22PM I'd say that's about the long and short of it. They're similar activities, but clearly not identical. One is legal, the other isn't. Neither industry is particularly socially acceptable, but neither industry has a huge negative social impact. Stephan [Link] |
| Hypermastia Deactivated User These R The Buttocks Of Ryan Star: No Butt Can Compare 248 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 5:48PM I'm certain that more than a few Ladies currently doing Sex Films decided that getting fucked for free by men they really don't like made no sense. [Link] |
| MrChrisEvans Member Puck Forn 87 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 10:47AM Well back to work for me, today I'm editing a 30 scene anal comp full of girls that aren't prostitutes because they aren't getting paid to take dick in the ass, they got paid to sign over the copy rights of the "performance"... [Link] |
| WardqueenJanine Member 914 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 11:50AM Well, it's interesting that all of you guys "Know" what its like to be in the sex provider business. No matter what you say there is a certain judgemental tone in a few of your voices. After all, porn os still legal and those rest of us are doing something against the law so the implicit message is that we deserve less respect. We enjoy the same diverse personalities as do porn stars. We have nutcases, druggies, you name it. We also have some very "normal" women. I for one never have had a substance abuse problem and have actually never taken any illegal drugs! There is a certain hierarchy within our profession starting with streetgirls (big issues!) up to independents and high end agency girls. We all have different reasons for getting into this profession and staying there if that's our choice. I "Worked" from the end of high school, through college (yes I graduated in four years) and on and off since. I learned early that to be appealing you have to develop within a niche and if you can do that you can prosper in this business. I have, and even several years later remain viable. Of course I also maintain a full time professional job. Are we the same? Resounding no! There are similarities though. We both must be responsive to the consumer. The difference is that I am he writer, wardrobe, director, producer and marketing person. Oh, and I get only one "Take". Also I can't just complete one production and sell copies I actually have to successfully perform each and every time. You tell me which takes more talent? Are we like strippers as someone mentioned? Not even close. Again there is the mass market appeal and oh BTW strippers are doing something legal so we can not look down on them as much. Why don't some of us do porn? Some do. I have some women with whom I work who have done some and no they have not been abused, threatened, assaulted exposed to drugs blah, blah, blah. Don't forget that if girls have problems going into porn they are not going to shed them once in the industry. Personally I'm now way too old but I also have an aversion to large scale exhibitionism. Sounds strange? Not really. I dress in a revealing, sexy and sometimes slutty manner but the lure of the forbidden or unrevealed is still there. Other girls may have other reasons. [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 7:47PM [Link] |
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