Canceled my Evil Angel website subscription for the first time in 10+ years. For as long as I can remember they have produced the BEST porn with competitors like Elegant Angel a distant second. Nowadays the girls just do not appeal to me: They are all pale, thin, and hairy (or these days they might even have a dick) as opposed to tan, voluptuous, and shaved. And I do not mean to offend anyone, I know that is the new look in fashion for some. But until they bring back GIRLS like Brandi Bae, Lucky B, August Taylor, Brooke Beretta, Julie Cash, Kendra Lust, Melanie Monroe, Nikki Sex, Summer Briele...to name a few I am out. Additionally they have very few films from Mike Adriano anymore as he was one of the more popular. They have always been on the fringe and I appreciate them pushing the envelope but what they are doing is just not for me anymore.
I agree with you 100%. I miss Evil Angel throughout the early 10's when I first got into porn. This is a problem with a lot of porn studios today tho, the lack of voluptuous, thick, bubble butt girls. Those type of women are still out there but they aren't getting booked enough or booked often like they used to. The image has definitely changed. Mike Adriano is part of Jules Jordan now and does his own sites, and I'm glad he left to focus on his own stuff because Evil Angel has been having other issues lately besides everything else you mentioned. Elegant Angel sucks too IMO ever since they revamped the site design.
I used to keep a running subscription to EA or at least go back every couple of months and always found the site to be great value because I liked so much of what they offered. In the past year, however, I've only been rejoining maybe every three or four months and even then I don't download a lot.
A problem for me is that while they have some of my favourite porn I get that from other sources. Hookup Hotshot and Bam Visions stuff, for example. Both studios upload to EA but they upload edited or censored versions. The HUHS stuff, for example, has pissing and puking edited out. Bam Visions scenes can be almost an hour longer on the Bam site as opposed to on the EA site. For HUHS at least this is because EA still releases on DVD and so they have to be more careful about obscenity law. But it's for this reason that I only download HUHS and Bam scenes from their respective sites. Plus, I prefer to financially support the sites themselves.
The other reason I don't join as much and download less is because Mike Adriano left and went to Jules Jordan. But that's less of a loss than it seems since Mike doesn't put out much DVD-based porn these days since he has three stand-alone sites. I'm a regular at all of those to get the latest MA stuff.
Lack of booty is a big problem across the board for me not just Evil Angel. A few years ago big butt fans didn't know how lucky they were with the likes of Kelly Divine, Phoenix Marie, Jada Stevens, Nikki Sexx, AJ Applegate and many others getting booked everywhere (and prior to that the likes of Flower Tucci, Luscious Lopez etc).
Its a shame if the tastes nowadays are more towards skinny. Partly why I'm just not as into porn anymore.
Agree that EA has stumbled from it's glory days. Don't believe it has much to do with the lack of bodacious women. Likely, it is the product of their best directors getting old, dying, or leaving for greener pastures.
There was a time I eagerly waited for the new Evil Angel trailers. Evil was the company that invented and shot all the nasty things in porn.
Last month was disappointing. Next month is disappointing too.
Alot of compilations lately. The stuff from their regular directors is getting repettitive, boring and cheap.
With cheap I mean hardly any ffm scenes. Next month its all boy/girl one on one.
The only director who surprises me sometimes is Donnie Darkko
John Stagliano only makes weird stuff Toni Ribas is a good performer but his movies don't interest me I am bored by Mike Adriano's stuff Joey Silvera only makes trans stuff (he was soo good in the past :-( Rocco should retire. Lexington Steele never surprises Bam Visions is cutting costs with only boy/girl .. no ffm anymore Nacho Vidal Always shoots the same stuff in the same room and bathroom Lewood ... dunno what to say..
2018 update:
I totally agree with the pale skinny girls... its terrible They also made an entrance at Legal Porno...
And the comedy . every scene has to be comedy in stead of hot steamy sex
In 2017 I wrote that Brazzers was better then Evil Angel but Brazzers nowadays is just as bad. No ffm scenes whatsoever The inspiration is gone.. it's just production in stead of quality..
^ I understand your frustration at Joey concentrating exclusively on ts movies; now he's retired altogether, there is no one anywhere near his level at EA (or anywhere else) at producing ts material. Aiden Starr was promisig intially but is beginning to fall into the same formula as most others. Boring, predictable.
^ Slender with a healthy and fit body but not too skinny or petite. There have been many fit/slender girls in porn with huge bubble butt asses. Jada Stevens and Remy Lacroix are perfect examples. You don't even see much of those girls on Evil Angel anymore either. It's just skinny or very petite all around. The waist to hip ratio is the key.
This is from Brazzers, but this was one of my all time favorite classics right here. [Tweet is no longer available]
From what I understand in this topic the biggest complaint is about the lack of big bootie or curvy girls, not only in Evil Angel but in others studios too and I tottaly agree, It's unreal thinkin that If all the girls that are mentioned here (Kelly Divine, Phoenix Marie, Jayden James, Ash Lee, Kelsi Monroe...) started in this industry for the past 2 years or less would not have been so successful and the only chance to really watch something is on snapchat/onlyfans
^ There are new models out there who have similarities to a Kelly Divine, a Phoenix Marie, a Jada Stevens, or a Kelsi Monroe, but they aren't getting booked enough because of the new image and era of porn we're in currently. A lot of those new big booty models out there would have immediately been booked for scenes if it was 3-5 years ago. I just think about what happened to Jenna Sativa with that Penthouse shoot (even tho she's only G/G), no way that would have happened to her years ago. Studios are favoring the more slender/skinny look now instead of the big curvy look. The Lansky style of porn has practically taken over the last couple of years, nothing against Lansky, I enjoy his scenes, but I like variety from other studios too. Even when it comes to the big booty girls on HardX, 2018 was my least favorite year for the site by far. I preferred 2014-2016 for HardX by several miles.
I think Adriano was overused at EA. There was a point where I used to check in to see EA's new releases and upcoming movies and watch the trailers, but then it became every second movie was Adriano's at the expense of other directors. Now he's gone and it's left a big vacuum in their line-up.
EA have also not really had a changing of the guard. Lewood, Siffreddi, Darkko and Nacho still going. I actually have no issue with them, but EA need to break in some new directors...but I suspect it's too late.
Having said that, as a porn consumer I can't complain. There are so many alternatives now. Blacked, Tushy, Hard X, Erotic X, Trenchcoat X, Brazzers, MOFOs, Reality Kings, Team Skeet, Jules, BangBros and Legal Porno are all putting out top notch scenes in my opinion...
i believe the solution is good director and not the studio per say. look at Giorgio Grandi for example he turned Legalporno into a masterpiece , or mason which single handed and kickstarted an amazing Hardx website. some might say EA have legendary directors like Rocco , Drakku .......etc, and that is the point they are underperforming after raising up their standard. and i personally hate Mark Wood's and Mark Andriano's work.
Yeah, i too agree with the majority. I have canceled for about 2 years now (more or less?!). Every now and then i go the site to check the trailers and pray for a miracle, but that will never happen. My main problem is not with the girls (cuz i like them all: skinny, curvy, big boobs, small boobs, shaved or hairy), but the quality of the scenes, or should i say lack of quality. Every scene is all about position 1, position 2, position 3, the end. From the looks of it, it's the absence of good directors that lead to this result. I used to be so hyped to see a new Belladonna movie, or a new Jay Sin or a new Darkko movie: the intensity, the chemistry of the girls, the craziness involved, the new and exciting and flamboyant scenes - everything ended with a "wow!" or a "fuck that was amazing!" at the end of them. We don't get that nowadays.
Totally agree. I loved it when Mike started at Evil Angel. It was a new kind of filming and setup. But my impression is that after Mike the flow of new directortalent ended. EA became dependend on the stuff Mike shot and that stuff became repettetive.
I remember the days Mike shot 3-somes and 4-somes THOSE WHERE THE DAYS
The new covers on evilangel with EVIL in capital letters looks awful. Like some cheap euro compilations. And I actually find it much harder to browse the movie covers on the site like I like to do, because your eyes gets distracted when every cover screaming EVIL at you...
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Posted - Jun 3 2019 : 12:07PM
In my humble estimation, this has been an ongoing development for a much longer stretch of time. I'd say trends in the biz were starting to turn in favour of slimmer gals shortly before the turn of the decade. From that point on, a gradually increasing percentage of the industry's output has fallen into this category. However, I'd agree that the rise of Lansky might very well have accelerated such developments.
It would seem to me that despite the current TREND of pale, hairy, skinny, sick looking girls that men (not all but many) still want to see tan, full body big tits and ass on women. And by that a studio would still attract enough subscribers/purchasers of videos that they would make money even going against this trend. Even Mike Adriano is booking these skinny girls with no tits. I mean to me if you are a website about fucking girls asses the asses being fucked should be big, not looking like two elbows with a hole in the middle. Evil Angel has continued to suck and its gotten worse since I posted this last year. Oh well, I guess we have to wait this trend out
I have also lost interest in Evil Angel, but for reasons that are almost the polar opposite of the OP's:
I think the girls continue to be just fine (looking at the updates page, I'm seeing plenty that are tanned, and very few that I would consider 'sick-looking,' but then again, I have always liked 'slender' girls, and would consider the OP's picks to be rather *too* voluptuous for my tastes. Lexi Lowe & Stella Cox have all the curves I could ever need. So that's not the issue.
Rather, it's actually the lack of the more 'fringe' stuff-pegging, trans on biological female, etc.-that has left me disinterested... It's all gagging and anal gaping now, and, with the overly-illuminated scenes, the scenes all begin to resemble some sort of gynecological exam. That's a big 'no thanks' for me.
In my case, I stopped a long-term sub because of the stunt Stagliano pulled welcoming James Deen back despite the allegations made against him. While Deen didn't appear in the Consent title in the end, the publicity around it sounded really contemptuous of his alleged victims. I haven't renewed since I cancelled the sub but I can't say beyond any doubt that I will never renew again.
I only joined for a month every year or so because the video quality itself was god awful, worst 1080P scenes I ever saw. I occasionally joined to see new Adriano scenes. Ea now finally has scenes in 4k, but sadly too little too late. They should have offered these years ago like many other sites. I can only imagine Mike Adriano scenes in 4k. Sadly the video quality on his own sites is just as bad, apparently he wont ever shoot in 4k.
Yeah, but it stands out on store shelves, which is why they did it.
Anyway, for me, the thing that's been missing from Evil Angel's recent content is intensity. My preferences have never been so much about the extremity of the acts performed, but rather the intensity shown by the performers who are doing them. That's been missing at Evil Angel for a long, long time.
Nobody is fully capturing the style of content I am interested in seeing.
Adriano continues to pump out great anal POV stuff, but it's all in the form of compilations now. Everything gets published on his websites weeks or months before it lands at Evil Angel, and that's not a very good incentive to buy his DVDs.
Proxy has the stellar "Legalporno talent pool" at her disposal (y'all know what I'm talking about) and she creates scenes centered around the most demanding physical sex acts (DP and DAP), but the style is too clinical and the scenes lack emotion. (Also, this is a purely personal preference, but I do not find her make-up and wardrobe choices very attractive.)
Rocco is still pumping out regular content, but his "mainline" films have none of the intensity of the movies he was making in his prime. I really feel like he's just going through the motions at this point. Meanwhile, the intensity of his POV content is actually very good, but the production values are near-zero and the use of the POV camera set-up does not allow for those creative angles he employed in his older movies.
Jay Sin remains an excellent camera operator, technically speaking, and his masterful use of lighting and vibrant color contrast makes his scenes visually appealing... but all he makes these days are trans movies! I have no problem with trans porn or trans people, but it's a very specific thing to theme all of your content around, with a very niche market, and I'm just not interested sexually in trans women. He is one of the most interesting directors in the industry, and yet I find none of his content appealing because all of it is trans-focused.
Gozzling is 100% not my style. Full stop. The "throat abuse" focus combined with the Max Hardcore inspired wardrobe is a complete deal-breaker. Again, I've got nothing against that style or people who enjoy it, and I'm sure Gozzling is a great dude, but it's not for me. Zero interest.
I could go on, but those five really encapsulate my biggest issues with this distributor.
Edited by - evilpineapples on 1/10/2020 11:24:50 AM
I think you wrtoe the words I was looking for. You are absolutely right about all scenes are just people fucking, holes filled .. doing this and that position.. but there almost isn't any intensity/passion. In the old EVIL-days the scenes also where like today but the people acting in those scenes seemed to enjoy it in stead of going thru the motions.
I only ever subscribed to get Mike Adriano scenes. But I like Joey Silvera's trans and Girl scenes but he only ever does trans now. Also a fan of Jay Sin.
They need to take a look at Legal Porno studios. Gonzo and Giorgio Grande release better scenes in 1 week than Evil Angel do in 2 months.
Also porn has become too normal.
We don't have naughty Actreses like Roxy Raye, Chasity Lynn, Amy Brooke, London Keyes, Rachel Madori, Jayden Lee anymore. The new stars are boring. They just want to get fucked in the ass with a bottle of numbing lube and make us think they are getting a good hard fucking when we know they probably can't feel a thing. It's all so fake now.
Jane Wilde is quite hot and naughty buy has a pussy with a hipster beard stuck on top of it!!! So that really turns me off when she does actually make a hot scene.
Rocco needs to retire or do what Adriano does and not make himself the star of the movie.
^It saddens me that your go to porn video is one where the model is often in pain as she is getting fucked by two dicks in the ass for an hour. If that is the kind of porn that you need to be sexually stimulated than what will you do once you get numb to it?
On the subject of lube. There is a reason why lube is a must in porn and it's all because if you don't use any then it increases the discomfort of the performers. Anal without any lube must be hellish and a DAP is a thousand times worse. Ergo performers tend to usually hold out on anal for as long as possible and avoid shooting a DAP.
The fact that EA has over the years bought/produced extreme penetration porn is always an outlier to what their core fan base care about. It's always been gonzo in nature but extreme penetration porn was never what they did.
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Posted - May 16 2020 : 11:57PM
Maybe the resurrection of Evil Angel is taking place!
I haven't been a member in years, but recently signed up because of the Emma Hix Amal scene. And OMG, did they deliver!
Amazing scene, perfect camera angles, perfect lighting, perfrct amount of makeup, perfect anal, perfect face fucking, perfect saliva flowing down her face, perfect gaping, and for some reason the most incredible part of the scene to me was the perfect farting!!
Sometime around 2017, their trans content became their "best" content. And while a lot of the trans women are indeed gorgeous (Chanel Santini, for example), it is still very much a niche genre of porn. I was a member from 2014-2017 and the trans content became a MUCH bigger part of what they do during that time. I have nothing against it, but I can see how it would perhaps become a deal-breaker for someone not interested at all in such content.
I just went to the site and the first thing I see is a guy sucking on another guy's balls. Don't be surprised if bisexual content also becomes increasingly common.
Which one are you referring to because Emma has quite a few anal videos on EA with the oldest one being four years old? I also have to point out that many of them aren't exclusive to EA but are available on the producers own site.
Sin and Adriano are gone, so only EA director who can still shoot hardcore but at the same time glamorous anal porn is Darkko. All others are, in my view, either too soft, or have unappealing style (Paige, Gozzling, Riley, to name a few). Idk, maybe that's what sells nowdays.
Theres a few reasons I dont watch much EA porn. One is my favourite series, Suck Ball and Suck it Dry seem to have been shelved. Im not big into gaping and they have a male talent who seems to rough the girls up (foot on head seems a trademark) who seems to be in most scenes. Suppose thats justbthe Autumn of my discontent.
Evil Angel is basically diet LP with transexuals now. All the Darkko oral showcases (including my favorite series of all time, Wet Food) are done or never being produced, the sex is far more mechanical, and the scenes are much more repetitive. I couldn't imagine anyone who's watched a fair amount of porn saying that anything from EA in the last couple of years is among their favorite scenes. I think the Jasmine Jae showcase was the last thing I personally cared for and that was 2017.
^ I mostly agree with you but I have to say that occasionally EA knocks one out of the park. The recent title "Jane's Anal Addiction" featuring Jane Wilde in all the scenes (with Adriana Chechik, Paige Owens too) is incendiary. Every scene is amazing. But I have to admit that this is a result of EA, the director, the editor and, of course, Jane, Adriana and Paige.
I will say that Darkko is their most promising director. There's room for improvement in his work, but he makes a lot of really strong videos, including his most recent release, Gape Me 3.
Between him and Aiden Riley, there's still enough content to justify a subscription, IMO... but only just.
Rocco's POV stuff is good too, but most of his "mainstream" content has been lacking for years. Every now and then, he'll surprise you, but more often than not it just feels like he's going through the motions.
That's about it for me. There's not a lot going on at Evil Angel to excite me these days. What I'd like to see happen, at minimum, is the return of Jay Sin and the addition of at least one new quality director. Then we'd have Darkko, Riley, Sin, and the new guy, which would be enough to start recommending an Evil Angel sub again.
Edited by - evilpineapples on 5/20/2020 11:39:06 AM
I cancelled my EA subscription about a year after Mike Adriano left them. Mikes scenes where the only reason I subcribed in later years. Mike is a real pervert and pornographer, not just a performer/director doing a job. I miss that quality on EA now... Someone new has to turn up with fresh content for me to reactivate my account...
He's definitely good, so I don't want to disparage him by saying this, but I feel like he lacks a unique voice. It's not enough to merely be good. The reason Evil Angel was so revered in its heyday is because all of their star directors had deeply unqiue personal styles. When I think of Belladonna, Jay Sin, Mike Adriano, or Rocco Siffredi in his prime, I think of the very distinctive visions each of them was able to deliver. They were all great directors in their own right, but very different from their peers because they all had strong personal approaches to making porn. Nowadays, it feels like everything just blends together into a single homogenous "vocabulary" of how you're "supposed" to shoot gonzo anal, with the same basic camera work, lighting schemes, scene blocking, wardrobe, positions, etc... And it almost doesn't matter who's directing!
The saddest part for me is the waste of talent. Jay Sin is still active in the industry and could still make movies the way he used to make them, but for whatever reason, he just isn't. I can't remember the last time he released a non-TS video. Rocco Siffredi is still a strong presence in the industry and could re-ignite the passion and spontaneity of his older movies if he wished, but for whatever reason, he just isn't! At least Mike Adriano is still doing his thing, which is good for us as consumers... but he's not with Evil Angel anymore, so it's not good for them as a company.
Over time, it seems like they have lost many of those unique voices, and they haven't been replacing them quickly enough with strong alternatives.
I don't want the assembly line. I'm tired of the assembly line. I want unique visions of porn, distinctive enough that I can identify the director just by watching a few moments from a trailer. Evil Angel used to stand for that, at least in my mind... now it doesn't.
I know from experience that guys like Chris Streams work hard to create their product, so I certainly do not want to imply that they aren't giving it everything they've got, but it's not a question of effort or technical skill. A guy like Chris Streams has all of that nailed down by this point anyway. Now I want him, and others like him, to think outside the box. Get creative. Try something new. See what lands and what doesn't land, and then keep trying stuff until he stumbles upon a style that he can truly call his own.
Edited by - evilpineapples on 5/20/2020 3:49:51 PM
EA seems mostly anal, squirting (pissing) trans and sometimes the most tatted up chicks they could find in the trailer park, Tushy and Hard X seem to be able to produce a well lighted and well filmed production. No offense but how hard is it? LP has low production value but hot scenes if you like DA, DP and DPP. Ive filmed stuff at home, seriously the hardest part is to convince women to do it if you aren't using money as a persuader. I would hire Adriana Chechik, Lena Paul and Samantha Rone, shave their pussies, and hire 3 dudes, Tease scenes in clothes and strip suck, fuck, DPP, Anal, DP, DA and DPP with anal, then DA and pussy for the TPs, squirt on their faces, some behind the scenes, maybe add an amateur who struggles/cries with dick in her ass and next Jan Im getting an award-edited to correct spelling! happy?
^What you described is basically what Evil Angel was like 5 years ago. Of course, the "how hard is it" line could also be asked to Elegant Angel, Blacked or any other company that has gotten away from what they do best.
^^^ Interesting. If it's so easy as you describe (since apparently the "convincing" is the hardest part - which for a company using money should the of course be easy), why don't all the companies do it? Probably because it's not that easy after all. Good look btw. on finding an actress named "Adrianna" Chechik, plus getting Samantha Rone to shoot again outside of her Czech home, and convince all three ladies to shave their bush.
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Posted - May 21 2020 : 5:50PM
^^^ so professionals aren't willing to change their look for the right role? I dont know why some companies produce the product they do, i would film to what I like, sales figures are what matters, i.e IR, not my thing but a lot out there suggests it sells? Ive alway suspected the producers dont pay the actress enough at times to get the performances we'd like. I suspect managing talent is the hard part along with dealing with pirates. The filming many can do, anyone with a mac can edit and seriously who even cares about production value, I saw a great scene with Adriana, an homage to MM, Madonna vid, and it must of cost a bit, it was truly a work of art, but it wont convince your wife to do a DP and i found myself wishes for more close ups and more focus on Adriana. I've watched films that were clearly produced with one camera-seriously? just one camera? I sometimes think its like house building, 2x6 walls cost a little more but are much better, but so many use 2x4, saving a few dollars and producing an inferior product. i.e. hiring someone less well known and less talented to see a few dollars. Someone at EA hates DP, they've a few DP focused movies the last few years, starring unknowns, who all have alt. looks, its as if they were trying to destroy the genre. these are random thoughts from a guy who still buys dvds, Im sorry if anyone is offended by my statements, to clarify, Im sure its hard to run business fight pirates manage talent, run a crew, travel to eastern Europe, make sure everyone shows up, deal with insurance etc etc. but theres now excuse for poorly filmed product, light it well, more footage is better, use multiple cameras, I think mason is a great director, but theres no excuse for anyone who cant come close with proper equipment
Posted - Feb 8 2019 : 6:55PM
