If its true that onlyfans decided to ban nudity then its going to suck for performers who make their money from showing off their naked bodies and doing sexual acts. Now not saying performers still cant make a profit with their clothes on because they still can do naughty things without taking their clothes off. I dont know what rules onlyfans would have about doing naughty things if they dont even want someone getting naked. But yeah its odd that they would just randomly want to ban nudity.
I heard the news and complaints, which is why I came here. Plus, whispers of fosta/sesta being a factor of some kind. I hate politicians. If I ever met one---I don't care if it's that jackass Mitch McConnell or retard Nancy Pelosi, or whatever the fuck party they are----I'd poke them in the eye with a chopstick, and I'd laugh. I'd do the same thing to 'big media' journalists.
"Whenever you sell any subscription to a viewer, OnlyFans gives you 80% of the payment received"
Interestingly, the article doesn't mention the additional costs some performers charge that have been raised here.
"Once you've hit 'subscribe', the content will be instantly unlocked - all of it. Adult content is censored until fans subscribe to the account they want to follow.
In order to keep viewing the content without interruption, you have to keep paying the monthly rate set by the creator"
3 strikes and I'm out. I've tried several of my favorite star's sites (who I won't name) at discounted prices and this just ain't for me. It's like paying for Twitter and then having to pay again for overpriced iffy content. No thanks. I'm good.
I feel you, it's really hard finding onlyfans accounts that are worth the money. The ones that are worth it for me at the moment are:
Rebel Rhyder Casey Calvert Alexis Tae Ashley Lane Indica Flower Cam Damage Lyra Lockhart Skye Blue
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anotherone6211 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 27 2020 : 5:31PM
Thing about the ones that are handling these accounts is that they sometimes make no effort in hiding that it's the same person handling all these accounts.
Like just now I got 3 messages all offering a 2 for 1 deal, worded very similarly.
That was very well said!!!! Notice how the more established performers don't film DVD scenes anymore. Hell, they barely film for websites either!!
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Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User
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Posted - May 28 2020 : 8:24PM
I think OF is great as I think it represents female and performer financial power that will make a mark for the coming generation and beyond. I'd rather performers drive production then non-performing producers. In time the first wave of OF performers will higher camera guys and beef up production once they have the financial power to do so. There will be a new industry based off of this that I think will be for the better. I myself do subscribe to some performers OF site for that reason to do my part to create a new performer centered industry.
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Posted - May 31 2020 : 5:24PM
I like that performers can use Onlyfans. It's cool that they can make a living off of it. Just my opinion but while others lament peformers using Onlyfans I see it as a tool that keeps them active in porn instead of them fading away once booking for studios and websites slows down or dries up. Just because a performer hasn't been on a site or DVD but is active on Onlyfans doesn't mean they've chosen to do Onlyfans exclusively. That's an assumption. That said I'm with others in hating that a decent amount of performers have someone run their Onlyfans. I completely get why they would do it. There's financial implicatons, not everyone is good at marketing. Also I would imagine some peformers don't want to subject themselves to the private messages. I get it but it still sucks. I had been subscribed to someone for months and this morning it became very obvious that they started having someone run their account. There's been others. I won't out any of the performers. While I don't like it, outing them would hurt the peformers. We're all grown ups and it shouldn't be hard to tell when an account isn't run by the performer. Heck I've even continued to subscribe to an account that I knew was run by someone else just because there were new videos daily for around $3. I just never sent any messages because I knew it wasn't the performer.
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Posted - May 31 2020 : 8:10PM
Agreed onlyfans is killing the adult industry slowly
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Posted - May 31 2020 : 9:00PM
Sure it's Onlyfans killing the industry and not tubsites and broke or cheap shit sippers that feel entitled to watch free porn that's killing off studios. And even more specifically it's for sure not one paticular mega rich guy that owns both the tubesites and his own productions that's killing "porn." Let us definitely vilify women trying to make a living and pay bills.
soo. the only solution to see porn starlets truly cut out the middleman is to host their own website with own equipment and doing their own chats. this will satisfy many who are for actresses keeping the revenue from their own content. of overall is garbage. i like to chat with the performer cuz i've seen their body already. safe to say that most chats are done by the england based chat call center for at least 90% or more for the performers. waste of your hard earned money
^ Is your 90% really safe to say? While I am confident that a lot of OF providers don't run the chat/messaging entirely by themselves, I'd like to see what evidence you have to say 90% of the chat/message exchange is done with someone other than the model/performer.
Only fans content is usually 2nd rate. A certain starlet has c. 5 minute videos retailing at 50 bucks! No name dropping, but one will not be robbed in such a manner.
from my experiences and reading other's experiences. this might be my own data. i dont care whether it is right or not.is the coronavirus meter correct. did trump win the vote? my points minus the 90% is still accurate-no need to extrapolate a minor part of what i wrote
^ There's no need to pull out a stat either but you did so anyway. Presumably, you're an adult so when you impart stats without clarifying that it's opinion or your own experience, you can surely understand why you were being called out. Others here have imparted their experiences and observations as fact but when it was demonstrated to be untrue, they sucked it up, owned their error and moved on. There's nothing wrong with holding people to task or asking for clarification.
I suggest to go out and support your favorite performers on onlyfans and just their platforms because what Im hearing on twitter about how corrupt these studios are when it comes to abusing and mistreating the performers AND continue to allow abusers to work I dont even want to support studios. I support the performers and thats why I joined onlyfans a few months ago. It sickens me to even think about watching a scene from a studio now knowing what that performer was going through in silence. Now they are speaking out about it and I love it because changes can be had.
onlyfans not the answer. performers dont keep all the revenue. instead of using word 'studio' replace that with the word corporation which OF is. so you're still not solving the issue. from my exp the one getting exploited by OF is mr/you the consumer- tipping money to impress the performer with the size of your wallet all the while OF'S chat center is lying to you pretending to be said performer (s) reason i think this back/forth is happening -i think a few ppl from OF created accts here to show how lovely they are. if ur pro supporter of performer-tweet/email-whatev. tell them make own content on their own site for consumers to pay-cut out most or all of the middlemen
^ OK you obviously have some kind of hang-ups that you need work through, because now you're actually accusing OnlyFans of creating sock puppet accounts on a random message board simply because there are actually people saying non-disparaging things. Apparently the idea that some people may actually be fine with monetarily supporting their favorite performers is so foreign that you're convinced that it's some nefarious conspiracy. If you don't find OF to be a worthwhile investment of time & money that's your choice. But get a grip with all this weird speculation of "call centers" and sock puppet accounts. Some of us have actually had good experiences on the platform, as hard as that may be for you to believe.
if ur pro supporter of performer-tweet/email-whatev. tell them make own content on their own site for consumers to pay-cut out most or all of the middlemen this is the real solution. simple.
The fact that you think the costs of building & maintaining a professional website is as straightforward as creating a profile through an already established platform (therefore no platform cost) is a clear way of signaling that you haven't thought through any of this.
^^Except you've yet to actually offer any evidence that this supposed center auto-types for "most" performers (90% as you erroneously tossed out there). Also: many performers will send personalized video messages naming the specific person(s) that tipped them. So, are they some kind of automated fembot that's also run through these mythical chat centers?
sure when they get the tip. the performer is msg'd so she can thank them. before casting stones-u dont even know a chat center exists. that is ignorance on your part. i suggest instead of arguing-instead read this whole thread from pg 1. even ppl that use OF would admit to it. so until you do your research i cant have a proper debate with u.
my numerous msgs is mainly buyer beware. too many ppl paid out more than they bargained for by paying tips from autobots. hey if they want to continue paying thats their choice]all i can do is warn newbies what to expect. there's goodness in that-i don't need backlash or to be stomped upon jeesh
here on pg 2 for starters -calls them Social Media assistant from my own account -i have sleep deprivation at times but not longer than 2days and enough to notice the green dot on the perormer's acct was ALWAYS ON so they can go over 2weeks ?/ w/o sleep. ne ways point is there is a chat room not handled by the performer. fact
That's quite the strawman argument given that LezFan neither implied nor declared that performers keep all the revenue. Is there a particular reason why you haven't pointed out that while performers don't keep all the revenue for their content, the revenue for them on OF is repeatable, which is not the case with traditional studios where performers typically get one-off payments per scene/photoshoot and no royalties for additional sales the studio makes?
many of them already have their own websites-just not knowledgeable on how to market-again how many times do i have to type this? if u read all of what i written whether it is fact or fiction. you have to comment and read all of it not pick apart 1 item.
lol i'm done with this thread. my hopes is that newbies wanting to subscribe- better be prepared to open their wallets and safe keepings cuz likely ur going to spend alot more than the subscription price. don't get involved with the chats as the hustlers at the other end want to suck your last penny. if u avoid chat and keep your budget intact then maybe you can get positives out of the experience .
^Not sure if you will bother to reply now that you have claimed to be done with this thread but I hope you do because I am really curious to know where you got your data that most performers have their own sites. It's my experience that a tiny amount of performers have their own sites and of those few are worth joining. You will have to offer us links to the performers sites you know because I'm pretty sure most of us would love to visit to see what's available. Now hopefully your idea of site isn't an Instagram account.
I would gladly join a performer's site if I knew what my money got me and I would do the same for her OF page but until that exist then I prefer to invest my money in sites that guarantee that what I am paying for is available inside the members section.
P.S: Just a side note. Mentioning that some of what you wrote is fiction is not going to help your arguments. Alternative facts aren't facts just because the word facts is in the phrase and it goes without saying that basing any argument with fictional facts negates whatever point you wanted to make.
^ Yeah I'm not sure what that person thinks they're proving. First they keep insisting that all of their arguments are known facts, but refuse to actually substantiate them and then proceeds to admit that they're pulling random numbers out of thin air while engaging in weird conspiracies about sock-puppet accounts. Obviously they got burned by an OF page once and are clearly not handling it very well.
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^^^^ No, you will find I am not bound or compelled to reply on your terms.
You started by making a claim that when called to clarify or demonstrate as true, you failed to do this. An assertion of fact made without proof can be dismissed without proof.
The fact you've now admitted at least some of the information you've imparted was plucked out of thin air pretty at best now casts doubt on the truth or accuracy of your other claims. Simply put, you've played yourself.
Is that your perception of OF? Sure you are going to have good and bad experiences. I could personally tell you some not to good experiences Ive had but thats with everything in life. I think OF in general has been good. I cant speak for what you are saying about how OF is just a setup and Im not talking to the actual performers etc... As for being exploited, its up to you to make those tips and stuff. You dont have to slide in DMs, you dont have to tip during cam shows. You can make your intentions known to the performer right away and if thats not how they roll then maybe their OF isnt for you. There is nothing wrong with that either. At the end of the day regardless of how the setup is for OF, these performers brand is on there so you are supporting them. They dont have to be on set shooting with companies that will rob them blind. They can make more money making their own content than they would shooting for a studio. That studio will profit way more from just one scene and that performer will just get one small cut. Not to mention the abusers, racists, and just uncomfortable environment those performers have to deal with on set. So yes I think OF is the answer. I was told it wasnt and I didnt dive into it for the longest. Not saying OF is perfect but I not saying its not the answer. Thats just my opinion. Again everyone has their opinion and own experiences so if thats how you feel then thats how you feel. All Im saying is we are finally hearing performers speak up about how corrupt the industry is and I wont support any of the corruption. Whatever a performer brand or platform is Ill support that.
There's too many rip offs on OF for me. Paysites are always much more VFM. Most women charge $15-$30 for a 3 minute clip.
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Interracial Gets Me Stiff Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 9 2020 : 5:58PM
neither of those are the culprit, it is the gullible thirsty idiot guys that waste there money on this shit leading the girls to spend more time on onlyfans instead of shooting for sites
^ There's room for more than one culprit. No shortage of industry players (performers and studios alike) attributed their loss of income to piracy and that had been cited long before OnlyFans was well known.
I think OnlyFans is a lazy and convenient scapegoat for problems plaguing studios. Few studios offer royalties or repeatable income to porn performers so seeing that OnlyFans offers repeatable income from one or two videos that exceeds earnings with a traditional studio, why would a porn performer not take advantage of that and having ownership of content starring them?
Yes you are right, there are big players who are millionaires probably Angela White, Lisa Ann and Adriana Chechik or Texas Patti who is still on her way there and others just because they shot films like crazy on by one over years and money, money more, more they do not stop, then it is all about money,you can also see it regarding her numbers of TWITTER followers. Between 500k and more then 1K. This generates much more moey plus merchandising, marketing, promoting as a brand. But as far as I see watching ths the last 2 weeks or so, the majority of active female performers has lmuch less earnings, profits or revenues, see it also on the number of twitter follower. So haven't not much bookings or even in Covid-19 times a complete lockdown of shootings, they need or have to find diffrent "sources" for generate money. And such new plattforms like ONLYFAS are right for it. If you are following on twitter the one or other "star", you can clearly see how they promote dayly there stuff there, pure promoting, advetising, sometimes boring and bothersome....but they all doing this.
^So you really believe that Angela, Lisa and Adriana are pornstar millionaires. I could do a breakdown of the total number of videos each performer made money on and if you want I will but for now I will simply say that to be a millionaire then you need to have in your bank account at least 1,000,000.00$ or stock, properties and what not equaling 1 million dollar.
I am not involved in this business, I only know the number of movies the shot, for exemple Adriana more then 400 I guess so far, and I frankly say, that I had no idea what payments are for a movie let's of Brazzers or Evil woman. But this huge number of films within about 6,7 years in this case. But as I said I'am not in this business and have insider "knowing" about incomes or revenues. But I've read that Adriana has bought a house, and I can imagine that the prices in LA or greater LA are pretty expensive. So that is why I said this. But about different payments in this business that is another issue.
Sorry for the mistakes in writting, my keyboard don't work no more since yesterday. I'am writting fast so, that happens. BTW I am surprised about your coming reply.
^^ Being able to buy a house in LA or metropolitan LA isn't proof you're a millionaire, it just proves at the least that you satisfy a broker's criteria to make repayments on a mortgage for a house and afford property taxes. The value of the house can exceed your annual salary and the value of your assets several times over.
Sure, a mortgage can be sweetened with a larger deposit and/or some sort of security but even then, it's not proof you're a millionaire.
Thank you, nice to answer, but to honest, I am living in Germany and here are different condition and circumstances concerning real estate and buying a house thing. So if you understand your more or less right, they do not pay the whole amount price of this certain house or estate cash, they pay it maybe by rent on a monthly base ? Let's be open, I mentioned Adriana, could say this for Cherie Deville. Don't ask me why, but I know the price for buying there estates in both cases in regards of their recent residence, of course where they are located too. It was purely by accident. Does not matter. I really do not know about payment in porn biz. But both of these ladies are long time performer, 7 und abou 10 yers in business and records of the number of single shootings so far they did. And so you can easily imagine, that their must be money anyway. Adriana's house is about 1,4 million dollars worth right now. PS so you guess the financing is by mortgage ? Right ? BTW, I worked at the greatest bank in Germany, Frankfurt, I am a retiree right now. Googling in internet you can see, that Adriana e.g. is estimated on 1 to 5 million dollars, net assets. True or not or just a rough estimate. Almost the same for Cherie. But I agree to you, there are big differences. Veronica Avluv is glat to get just as much money to feed their children.It is always a quetion how good someone can deal with money. Thanks, maybe a get a reply with a few answers.
Posted - May 19 2020 : 12:42PM
