Post from Crazy days and Nights , they do get alot of them right -Blind Item Revealed
Blind Items Revealed #2 August 29, 2020
This former Disney actress is expected to be sued as early as Monday for fraud in a class action lawsuit from hundreds, if not thousands of customers she lied to. The company she used for her scheme will also be sued.
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and the whole thing might be another way to pump up her "yachting" rate . Blind Items Revealed #4 August 26, 2020
You would think the former Disney actress would never need to yacht again with that kind of income rolling in, but she is getting massive offers now unlike anything ever seen before in yachting. It is also going to lead to dozens of celebrities, especially reality stars getting naked and making porn.
Im wondering who is a sub to Alina Lopez OF? I ask because she advertise her vids on twitter then at least from my experience I sub and ask her about it on OF and I get nothing. I think its very odd. And from the looks of it none of her new subs are getting the vids either. Like I dont mind if she is busy and cant upload the vid at the moment but let me know something because I feel like I literally sub for nothing if thats the case. So again I want to know who sub to Alina Lopez OF and if its just me who feels that way?
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hoochimama Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 9 2020 : 12:40AM
That woman
Years before OF existed she was already infamous for scamming clients, both online & offline, employers and even blackmailing tv celebrities allegedly (i have the tapes and it was on the media).
As for her endorsement of OF & tweets publicizing her apparent success with OF, those are meant for the women posting content on OF. The ones "struggling to make bank". She's offering her OF coaching/consulting services, as in pay her and she'll tell you how to make more money with your onlyfans.
Now perhaps she's found God and is doing the Lord's work by telling these young women how to provide better value for their customers so that they are happy to hand over their money, making these girls richer and the world a better, happier and more peaceful place. Or maybe these politically erect times have made her an equal gender opportunist and she's telling each girl to find 2 or more suckers of their own to coach/offer reps to or something of the sort, a certain triangular structure.
Seriously though, I love her antics (she hasn't scammed me....yet!).
Why of course they are. They're ladies of the night.
Angel Wicky, Jill Kassidy, Charlotte and Valentina Nappi have a good amount of IR updates on their pages if thats what you're looking for. I think Siri, Mia and Rahyndee mostly shoot with their partners but Mia has a scene with Sean Michaels on her Onlyfans.
A decade or more ago, the top girls would completely dodge black talent. Things are way better now IMO so don't care nearly as much.
Yea, you nailed J Shea to the wall, shes absolutely putting all that out there to entice girls to contact her for advice, or promo.
I think OF is more an offshoot of back when every girl had a site, but when you have NikkiSexx.com, and a webmaster and crew, you get 50% of the take. Now you can make it yourself, and get 80% of the take. Its that pay setup that entices girls to OF. That, and it pays out very fast and regularly, but I dont think its killing porno, piracy is killing porno. Consumers have always been directing money towards their favorite stars in some way or another. When guys buy porn its almost always because there is a star they like in the movie, not because they like that particular company, or line, mostly just the girl.
A lot of the girls aren't even really posting any hardcore stuff. There was even one I subbed to that was just trolling people on twitter. Most of the people who do good stuff only have like 20 postings, maybe they have some more but like 100 or 200 posts at best. The site is still too young to really say I'm going to start paying for this girls content because there is so little of it. Or they are not ready to post good shit so you can justify paying for it.
Well, mine is $5 straight up, no tipping for scenes, nothing like that. Im posting hardcore full length shit, stuff so long I have to post it in parts. I have 1638 photos, 60 videos, and Im posting more every couple days. Im also shooting new stuff twice a month for it, so not everyone is doing it half assed.
You look beautiful in your profile pic. Will check you out and nice to hear some do real stuff. Would you consider asking Chad Johnson (reality star) to colab? Just tired of seeing him with girls not hot enough on insta. I'd only pay 0.f. for him if they were hot. 🤗🤗
Yeah, I think I am pretty much done with OF. I subscribed to a few for a while there--wanting to help out my faves during Covid. But, that shit has pretty much worn out and gotten old (and expensive).
My last experience finally clinched the deal for me. I won't say who it was, but it was one girl who I consider VERY special. I was more than willing to help support her and I spent a few hundred dollars on her OF site at least. Last video I purchased was $40, it never loaded. I contacted her several times, and to her credit, she apologized and tried to load it 3 or 4 more times for me, but to this day it just says "media is still processing." It is not my computer--I've even purchased more stuff on my DM feed from her, and also a few vids from other girl's OF page. So, I'm pretty sure it is not on my end.
To be honest, I'm not really blaming her for the problem, obviously there is a technical issue, but even after several conversations with her on the matter-- have I been offered a refund or something else for free in retribution? No. I finally accepted it was just money down the drain.... Okay, I get it, not her fault maybe, but I let my subscription go after that when it stopped at the end of last month. It's a shame too, because I totally adore this girl and have always been absolutely satisfied with her OF stuff. And her asshole is absolutely beautiful!!
But, for the moment at least---I'm out.
If you are that particular girl and are reading this--I would LOVE to resubscribe to your page and give you more money. Truly, I would!!!... But, until this issue is resolved I just don't see much point in it. Not trying to be mean or hateful, spiteful, or anything like that, but I work hard for my money (same as you) and if I'm not going to get what I pay for, then what is the point? I'm just going to cut my losses...
DAMN this COVID!!!!
Do you think porn will ever go back to the way it was before? Where we pay thirty bucks or so a month and get all the porn the site offers? Or is everything from this point on, just OF and Manyvids? My monthly porn budget has multiplied by 5 or 10 at least. Most of us are not going to stand for it. I'm sorry, but to you legitimate porn creators, if you think piracy was bad before, just wait and see what is going to happen now.
I don't have the answers, not going to pretend that I do, but most porn consumers do not have the resources to support this new model. Sooner or later it will implode on itself.
^I expect the virus is going to be with the US for a very long time to come so for the foreseeable future OF is one of the few places that performers can earn a living but because so many women had to go the OF route or find another type of employment means that it saturated the market where you simply have too many models all sharing the same fan base and that it's bound to affect how much money models earn each month. I suspect that the market was already saturated with models/performers prior to the pandemic but it it must be so much worse now.
I don't care how popular a model is. At some point even her core fan base can't join her OF page every month as well as all the other models on their favorite list and I'm not even talking about those fans who simply stopped joining because her OF account wasn't worth it or too expensive.
It´s true that my porn budget has multiplied by 5 or 10 too. And it´s sadly true that you receive poorly shot short clips in return more than once.
On the other hand I detected some gems I probably would have been waiting for another couple of month or maybe even never seen them at all, like the first anals of some of my actual favorite babes like Susy Gala, Kosame Dash or Sofi Ryan. Kosame only charged 9 Dollars for 3 month and she offered this little clip without any extra payment.
I guess we just have to live with that and try to make the best out of it individually, hoping that we are somehow back to normal someday soon and that it helps to keep our favorite ones in business during this shitty period.
^I don't have the kind of money that would allow me to increase my porn budget by a factor of 2 let alone 5 or 10. I was able to buy some C4S and MV vids in recent months because I wasn't joining any new sites and had extra cash on hadn.
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Mass Facialties Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 4 2020 : 2:31PM
When it comes to reviewing your OnlyFans experience with a particular pornstar, why not just tell us who you are talking about? Good or bad, there's no need to keep it a secret, so long as you keep your comments respectful in accordance with ADT's forum etiquette.
^^The logic behind that one escapes me because if it's not a good OF account then it's pretty shitty thing to let anyone else join it thinking that it might be worth it.
Me too. I hope someone reviewed reality star Chad Johnson. You men may feel cheated bc of the poor content the ladies provided but imagine being a straight female or gay male and liking a reality show guy doing only fans. You don't even know his size* or performance skills 😢
^I believe that the CC thing is to verify that you are at least 18 years old since you need to be at least 18 to get one. Of course it doesn't hurt that a percentage of the people who sign up to porn sites tend to forget when they did and wind up with a much longer membership than they had planned and likely paid more for the renewal than their original join price.
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QuivverSoftly Deactivated User
53 Posts 6/10
Posted - Oct 13 2020 : 2:36PM
OnlyFans is great for the performers and the hardcore fans that want to do simp shit like DM their favorite hoes. I love the fact that these girls (and I would guess the boys) are making decent money from their die hards.
But does it signal an end for the porn industry? I don't think so. The quality on OF is generally quite poor. I would label it as the amateur look. It cant compete with a professionally lit, professionally photographed scenes.
What OF does do better then anything else is bring the performers and the simps closer. It's more akin to a virtual strip club in that sense to me - and I'm all for performer empowerment. If someone wants to spend $200 for DM's let them...take their money.
The question though is how long can you sustain that level of output? Cause the simps will always move along when they get bored. And piracy will always exist so like the girls at the club - you need to keep dancing or someone will take your spot.
It's a term used by self-appointed "alphas" to belittle men who recognize women's ownership of their sexuality and pay the asking price of products and services offered by women. Indirectly, the term belittles women who take such ownership.
Edited by - AngryPirate on 11/26/2020 8:42:17 AM
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Interracial Gets Me Stiff Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 26 2020 : 12:48PM
i think i get like 10 scenes per month with the 48 tickets/month plan so the average scene i purchase comes out to around 4.5 tickets, 10 scenes a month is a lot better than you will get on most sites
maybe some of the large gangbang/orgy scenes are more expensive but i dont really have much interest in those, i have also noticed the content produced by the affiliate sites (or whatever where the people outside legal porno run) are usually a lot more tickets
Why isn't modelhub not accepting any purchases for a good couple months now, really want to purchase the Aubrey Black scene with Jax Slayher, he does have a manyvids page but this particular scene hasn't been uploaded on the platform.
I'm not the biggest fan of OnlyFans, but I can see why a lot performers over the last few years have been putting out their content on that platform. Lately here I've been viewing my porn through ModelHub/PornHub, MyFreeCams, Chaturbate, and Camsoda. I've gotten burnt out from the mainstream phase lately.
March 11, 2021 Marketplace tech.org has a report that the pandemic created a surge of Onlyfans creators. There was a 75% jump in March/April of last year. The glut of creators have caused most to make little money. The reporter has seen an estimate the average performer earns $200 a month. She does say there are well established performers that can make money.
^Well obviously Jane or Joe Smith isn't going to make the same amount of money as Angela White or Riley Reid. Which is also why all those claims of being in the top 0.1% or higher are so dumb. With how many people signed up as creators and immediately stopped or make barely anything, it can't take much to be high up there.
It's a flawed concept since u/a person can be added as authorized user as well as debit/prepaid cards. The only way to verify someone's age is to look at their ID. I'm surprised adult sites don't have age verify software on their site before sending the user to a payment form. It would help reduce charge backs.
^Of course a teenager can be issued a CC but a parent has to cosign and agree. Therefore if the parent(s) of that teenager do not monitor what he/she does with that credit card then there is no system that can prevent them from joining porn sites anymore than it would prevent them from buying other adult oriented products online where the vendor is assuming that whoever is using a CC is of age.
I'm curious to know what kind of verification system you think exist at this moment or can be created that would prevent most teens from purchasing porn. I can't think of one. You could have that kind of system in a dystopian society or in a world like Star Trek where the is a single World Government but neither of these is likely anytime soon.
or you could do it the "german" way. Having to enter a unique number from your ID Card. But then that number is out in the open and could come into the wrong hands. I like the CC thing better
German ways are most likely to fuck things up for everyone
^Not familiar with the German system. What is their I.D card? Is it like in Canada where you have your Medical Insurance card that is issued to every person?
Belle Delphine earning a reported $1.2 million a month via Onlyfans
My issue with OnlyFans is its search fuctionality and lack of content to preview. The only good way to browse Onlyfans girls/guys is from 3rd party sites that leak their pics and videos.
Since it allows content creators can set their own prices and guidlines, it's kind of a hit or miss when you subscribe. So-n-So might list 100 videos and it might only cost $5-10 for 30 days. But those videos might only be 1-5 min long, bad quality, tik tok quickies. Only to realize your locked behind another paywal to unlock the HD 30 min videos preview on Modelhub/Manyvids
I haven't found a good website yet that pictographs the cream of the crop Onlyfans top 50-100 girls or whatever. Needs to be a user friendly review site of all the OF content creators.
^I call B.S on claim. Her OF account is a staggering 35$ and for her to earn 1.2 millions per month means that 35,000 people have to be willing to pay 35$ each month. That she can get that many people to do it once I can believe. I can even believe she could do it more than once but repeatedly is something that I don't believe she can do.
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tonylambro Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 26 2021 : 4:16PM
35k subs is peanuts mate. Girl had 4.5m followers before IG and Youtube banned her.
Tommy Lee and Pamela did $77 million in one year off their 25 minute home video. Think about the $treamers on Twitch who charge for monthly subs just to use the chatbox feature during broadcast. 10k-15k daily viewers watching one guy playing COD warzone: $20 tip, $50 tip, $100 tip, $20 tip. "Thanks for the 3 month'r bro"
Don't underestimate the influence this overly sexualized kawaii cosplay parody has on the weeb, incel and gamerT community. This is a part time streamer who sold $30 jars of bath water and $10k jars of her piss. She openly trolls her fanbase calling them simps and they dig it. Instead of sporadically leaking a sextape, Belle Delphine pre-announced it back in June, then for 7 months teased nudie snippets week after week until finally revealing hardcore content on X-mas.
I've seen some of her clips, it's decent PH verified amateur production with meh porn. The key to her recipe is the character though, like a good WWE wrestler gimmick she perfected it. 4chan and Crunchyroll boys pouring in to see the babyfaced waifu loli get ducktaped and reamed against a tree.
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Mass Facialties Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 26 2021 : 9:54PM
Uh, yeah, this doesn't look like it's effected OnlyFans at all.
#7: FILTERS. Not cheap cameras or bad angles, but footage that makes performers look like cartoon characters. (Per your comment about Courtney, I've been a huge supporter of hers, but it's like watching Tinkerbell now given her affinity for filters)
#8: STRUCTURAL RACISM. Girls on OF are typically working with their boyfriends/husbands. Most of the highest-grossing OF models happen to be white and choose to film with other white guys. You're rarely getting professional-quality male talent and there's very little interracial. I feel OF limits the opportunity of Black men. Although I've made a point of supporting great Black performers like Mookie Jordan, I feel there are lots of talented Black guys that won't get a shot in the industry because the top female content creators are choosing OF as a platform (rather than great studios like Dogfart) and are naturally choosing to shoot with men of their same race :(
On the flip side, we're finally getting SUPER HOT girls to do porn again, for the first time since the pirating/streaming boom (when you previously had the last great generation IMO, e.g. Jenna Jameson, Tawny Roberts, Devon, Keri Sable, Taylor Rain, Jenna Haze, etc.)... I'm sure the financial possibilities of the OF platform are a huge draw for the mega-influencers that are evolving from Instagram and TikTok more naturally to porn via OF... it's lowered the barriers to entry for super hot girls... I've been trying to hype Mila Harper as that sort of new breed going from a massive social media following to hardcore (BJs, creampies, etc.) on OF, but there seem to be many of these cases.
The money has got to be insane for these creators (I'm personally spending thousands of dollars per year across dozens of subscriptions for my OF faves, which sucks)... BTW, if anyone knows of any really attractive OF models that are heavy into interracial, please let me know!
I constantly hear the hate spewed about onlyfans, but their are plenty of things to love about it:
1) Performers get to work work with who they want to work with and how they want to work with them. As a fan I want the performers to be at their absolute best and be genuine. On set during a scene where there is long hours, that performer might not have chemistry or even be crazy about the scene partner or director, or just in general the type of scene that is being shot. Not saying the scene will be bad but it doesnt have that same feel that I know an onlyfans scene will get. Like when I see Abigail Mac and Kristen Scott shoot together for onlyfans like multiple times I know the scene is extremely authentic and just fun. Plus seeing that those two are good friends and they have never shot mainstream together its refreshing to finally see them shoot together. As a fan Id hope for studios and directors to pair certain girls together but Im still waiting on plenty of occasions. I dont have to wait on onlyfans as I can just mention hey Id love for Casey Calvert and Kenna James to shoot a g/g together and it happened and the scene was awesome. Or how about if youve seen two girls shoot together once for mainstream and want to see them shoot again but that never happened? For me thats Sinn Sage and Cherie DeVille. I dont even believe I saw their mainstream shoot but I know they did a scene together for mainstream. Well for Sinn Sage onlyfans her and Cherie has shot together so many times and its a pleasure to see them together.
2) People bang on the prices on onlyfans. How about the discounts and bundle deals? Nobody talks about that. Yes you will have those performers who will charge an arm and a leg for a scene. You have plenty of performers who give discounts on scenes and bundles. Ill take Abigail for example since Ive been on her page for over a year now. If she has a "new" released scene and you want it before its released and you ask her, of course she is going to want like minimum of $25. When the scene is released and sent as a mass dm the scene will more than likely cost minimum of between $15-20. If you wait a month or two she will eventually send that same scene out either separately for like minimum $10 or in a bundle with other vids and even pics for anywhere from $10-20. So this perception that all performers charge $100 for a 15 minute scene need to stop because thats not the case. I can count on one hand the performers that does that and Ive checked out at least like 35 onlyfan accounts.
3) Again people bang on the quality of the scenes. Yes some content is shot via a phone camera but for the most part the production and quality is great. When I think of the likes of Casey Calvert, Abigail Mac, Adria Rae, Karlee Grey like the list goes on of quality content. What Im noticing too is these performers are shooting professionally. Kenna James did two scenes with Ryan Keely that was directed and shot by Mike Quasar. Abigail did an 80's workout scene with Cherie that was professionally directed and shot. So I think when I hear people bang on the quality of scenes from onlyfans its just to spew more hate.
4) You can download from onlyfans. You just need outside help. Now its not ideal that you download because there are bad apples out there that will download the content and then upload it on some random tube site and that hurts the performer. The performers themselves know you can download content though.
Ill also add that onlyfans has helped the performers make more money than them shooting for mainstream. Lacy Lennon said recently that she is thinking she will start to separate herself from the industry in 2022 because she make most of her money from onlyfans. She will only have a few specific dates she will have open to shoot for studios but outside that she wont be shooting alot for mainstream and I dont blame her. Sinn Sage even said that she only shoots for mainstream when she chooses and its really only to get eyeballs on her so people can follow her platforms. I dont like when people say a performer is "retired" just because they stopped shooting mainstream. As long as they are still producing content for their platform they arent retired. A retired performer no longer shoots anything. For example, one of my all-time favorites is Jelena Jensen. She is retired. She doesnt shoot any content anymore. Id love for her to have an onlyfans and still shoot with other girls but thats not the case. Mia Malkova and Adria Rae hasnt retired. They might not shoot mainstream anymore but they have content they shoot for their onlyfans so at least fans still have something they can go too if they want to continue to see their favorite performers in action. I think Adria has great content too because Ive seen a few of her g/g content and its great.
^^ About your last point: Casey Calvert mentioned that in one of the OF threads: Simply because via some obscure means you're able to download OF videos, it's not that its legal per se. Since the point is you're basically paying the 'admission price' to see the video streamed. Once could argue that I could also get the OF videos somewhere else on the tube sites or whatever, from a service provider that provides streaming only both are the same kind of non legal (as per its terms and conditions).
But at least with Casey you can ask her and she'll mail the video to you.
You could also say: Yeah, service A sucks, but since I know how to get an improvement to service A via (shady) service B, service A doesn't suck as much...
^ I agree and same with Sinn Sage. If you ask for a specific video and you give her the tip she ask for which isnt much she will send you a link where you can download the video since you cant technically on onlyfans. I believe Sinn uses dropbox. I wonder how many other performers do that? You mentioned Casey and I mentioned Sinn.
Trophy Wives 3 - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Sep 8 2020 : 8:16AM
