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blake_fan
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Posted - Jul 12 2003 : 1:49PM
Well, I take about a year off from the Forum, come back and discover to my pleasant surprise this new board.

This is right up my alley. I hate raincoater material. I love erotica. I am Andrew Blake's biggest fan.

Please allow me the opportunity to voice several of my opinions (and they are only opinions), as if anyone really cares what I have to say --

How do I define "the lighter side?"

1. It is respectful of women. And more often than not in revels in their beauty. It celebrates the female form.

2. It includes passion as an emotion. Sex is exhibited as an act expressing the emotion. Sex is not just a base act done simply for pleasure.

3. There is character development. There has to be chemistry, or #2 above won't work.

4. There are better than average production values. The sets, the lighting, the costumes, the music, all help to set the mood. Again, in support of #2 above. And I might add, properly it is shot on film not video.

5. The men are attractive.

There are exceptions to the above. I think of one of my favorite films of all time ZAZEL, as well as Blake's more recent works. These are more done as "art" than "story."

I still think NIGHT TRIPS is the greatest adult film of all time. It has all the elements. (On the obverse, I think Blake has fallen into a rut, and as far as his recent works are concerned, once you have seen one, you have seen them all.)

I do not think FASHIONISTAS qualifies as "the lighter side" because of the level of sexual heat, although it certainly contains the other elements. (I loved FASHIONISTAS, by the way!).

I want to see more internal cumshots, and fewer popshots!

While I enjoy the beauty and sensuality of softcore, because it is not explicit, it lacks the level of heat and intimacy I want to see.

Because the adult film industry, generally speaking, does not currently cater to me, I find myself more often than not mining the classics from the 1970s.

I'll step off my soapbox for now.

Edited by - blake_fan on Jul 12 2003

DenverDon
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Posted - Jul 12 2003 : 2:02PM
Welcome back blake_fan.

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blake_fan
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Posted - Jul 12 2003 : 3:27PM
One thing I forgot to mention, since I am on a rant --

In my opinion, the greatest truly softcore movie of all time is Blake's VENUS DESCENDING done for Penthouse.

It is worth the cost of purchase just to see the outfits on those girls!

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is the beauty of the female form."

Edited by - blake_fan on 7/12/2003 3:29:26 PM

Mythsong
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Posted - Jul 12 2003 : 11:02PM
> The Lighter Side: What I Like (As If Anyone Cares)

I care. <grin> It all makes sense to me.

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Posted - Jul 15 2003 : 1:39PM
hi blake_fan - welcome back! glad you like the new forum. thanks for sharing your thoughts on the lighter side. i agree with most, though i'm not dead set on character development or production values. as long as i believe the folks on screen actually want to have sex with each other that's enough for me.
 
Gambio
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Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 4:32AM
That sounds pretty much what me and my girlfriend like (just posted a topic about that but i don't know how to link to it).

Just a question about "character development", what exactly are you referring to?

I've actually only seen one Blake movie (Delirious), and i dont know if i liked him or not. Since you, blake_fan, seem to be the right man to ask, how well does his films, (specifically:
Night Trips 1 & 2
Hidden Obsessions
House of Dreams
Paris Chic
Unleashed
Sensual Exposure
Secret)
answer to our criterias (plot, passion, sound (we want to hear the actors), attention to female pleasure and lack of messy facials)? From what I saw in delirous there wasnt really a plot, and I cant remember about the sound, are his other films anything like this?

//Gambio

DenverDon
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Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 8:18AM
For Gambio's other thread, click here.

Gambio, here is a small tutorial that might help on posting links.

DenverDon

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Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 8:26AM
Further for Gambio,

You might try this thread for a discussion of Blake and his films.

For character development or plot, I don't think his later stuff will meet your criteria. It might best be described as taking an absolutely beautiful photo layout by the best photographer - and putting it into motion.

I like Blake, but it might not meet your criteria.

blake_fan
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Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 12:57PM
Yeh, looking back, I think I emphasized that too much. I am certainly not saying "character development" like in mainstream movies. I am simply saying that in the best couple flicks, there is something there going on in the characters that allows us the viewer to have feelings about them, beyond just their looks or how they engage in sex.

Is it necessary to have such "character development" to have a couple's pic? Of course not. I am just on a personal rant about what I think is "best."

A general rule of thumb with Blake -- The older the work, the more plot and the more men; The newer the work, the less plot, the fewer men.

Naturally, the presence of men is going to influence certain aspects of the film, especially heat (passion) and cumshots. And he is not known for his plots, but rather his production values and cinematography. He plays precise attention to details. From every little item on a set, to the tiniest piece of jewelry on each woman, they were meticulously chosen.

He is essentially an artist who uses film for a canvas. At least that is what he evolved into. Originally he was an adult film director who made beautiful movies.

Rarely will you ever hear the actors during the sex, as usually he uses contracted music.

I would suggest you watch NIGHT TRIPS, that was his first and greatest. Then watch maybe HIDDEN OBSESSIONS, which was from the middle of his career. After viewing something recent like DELIRIOUS, That'll give you a good overall idea of Blake.

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Myload
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Posted - Jul 20 2003 : 11:03PM
"Hidden Obsessions" is my favorite porno movie. I wanted to buy the videotape a few years ago but for some reason I didn't. Maybe I should buy it on DVD. I'll think about it.
blat
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Posted - Jul 21 2003 : 5:44AM
I quite liked "Les Femmes Erotiques" as well, think that's a Andrew Blake one. Looked like it anyway. Same sort of shortish scenes kind of tied together with maybe nearly a common theme (though even more tenuously than in Hidden Obsessions). Possibly fewer men, but more sort of gimp-suit toys, as I recall.

Don't think it's out on DVD though, alas.

Gambio
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Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 3:53AM
As I can remember from the Blake film that I saw (Delirious) you couldn't hear the performers during the sex scenes, and this also seems to be the case with his other films. Are there any Blake non-all-girl-films that do have the sounds of the actors in the film?
TonyC
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Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 10:19PM
In many ways getting quality audio is harder than getting quality images, and doubly so for sync sound.

Without ever having been on the set of a Blake production, I'd hazard to guess that perhaps one of the reasons you don't hear sync sound in his movies is because (when you can get away with it) shooting MOS is *much* easier/cheaper than shooting sync sound.

By "legit movie" standards, porn budgets are preposterously low. Shooting sync sound at the same level as his visuals might simply be a budget buster; he's certainly developed a production approach/style that makes sync sound unneccesary.

-T.C.

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