The mysterious TeenCoreClub/CherryVision

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glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 30 2011 : 5:53PM Hello everybody. I never wrote on this board before because I'm mostly a European porn fan - Russian, mostly - but the way things seem now, it is slowly but efficiently gaining popularity among the major US streaming sites. In addition, one can't help but notice the said CherryVision ad on this very site (without stating anywhere whatsoever that CherryVision -IS-, in fact, TeenCoreClub). I posted a similar message on Pierre Woodman's board as well, but for some reason, Woodman and the board members seem to prefer to keep quiet on the subject. There are some unclear/disturbing things I've been wondering about for a long time now regarding this Russian-based network, and was hoping that anybody who reads this board could shed some light on this matter for me. I would also be interested in hearing your opinions about the network and its sites. First of all, there's the thing with the guy who's appearing in about 95% of the network's videos and who in the videos presents himself as being called Andrew (?). It strikes me off as rather strange that there's absolutely NO information AT ALL available online about this guy called "Andrew" who is appearing in so many videos and whom, if I'm not wrong, seems to be responsible for the entire big network. Second, and probably the most disturbing aspect of all, is the thing with the girls. The girls, who never even have a "porn name" and are always represented by some random first name, many times look VERY young. And it's not even like with Max Hardcore where he simply used to dress them up as kiddies; here they actually, genuinely look suspiciously young. That, connected with the lack of information available online about the girls and the overall look of the rooms in which the scenes are being filmed at (pastel colors, lots of colorful stuffed animals and little tiny pink Ikea kids' furniture), makes one raise an eyebrow. The extreme violence - which IS, without a doubt, extreme - depicted in mostly two of the network's major sites (YoungThroats (extreme deepthroating) and AssTeenMouth (guess)) is not all that different from the violence which is typical to a rather large amount of the modern US porn, but is, in fact, on a different level. Sometimes it seem like the girls might get in trouble if they dare to stop the scene. Overall, I feel like something with that network and that mysterious "Andrew" guy is wrong. No one online seems to be talking about it at all, but now when there's an advertisment for the network's DVDs on such a major website as AdultDVDTalk - a site which the main focus of is US porn - I found it the right time to open this discussion. As I said, I'd be very much interested in hearing your opinions, and, of course, I'd also be intersted in any kind of information. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - May 30 2011 : 6:47PM My philosophy with this kind of thing is that if you're not sure, don't go near it. That's all I can tell you. I know who you're talking about and I had pretty much the same thoughts about them as you. However, they seem to have been around for several years and haven't exactly been hiding in the shadows. I would tentatively guess that if they were truly shady we'd have heard something about it by now. But again, their stuff makes me uncomfortable and wary so I avoid it as best I can. From what I've seen, this appears to be a large network of sites. Even if they are based in Russia, I've got to believe they wouldn't get away with it if they weren't legit. Did you happen to notice if any of their stuff has a 2257 statement? [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - May 30 2011 : 7:03PM I suspect that you'll have far better luck getting inside information from some of the guys over at the Eurobabe forum. My take is that the Russian producers don't want these gals to be stars in order to keep their rates down. They are also marketing the gals as young and virginal, so it doesn't surprise me that they aren't dolled up the way we're used to seeing porn gals here, or that they are given different names on various sites. Oops! Forgot to mention that if these gals are in movies being sold in the US then somebody better have 2257 documentation (age verification) that can pass muster. Edited by - hardware on 5/30/2011 7:10:52 PM [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - May 30 2011 : 7:28PM They all have 2257. And if you look at their sites, their custodian of records is not in Russia, but in Finland, which is a EU country. Jacco [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 30 2011 : 7:37PM @RandomPrecision: It's not necessarily true that they are not hiding in the shadows. Yes, it's not an underground network, but the complete lack of any kind of information about it (nor about "Andrew") is very suspicious. Also, I don't think there's a reason for them to have any kind of problems when no one in Russia cares enough to report it. Maybe people are afraid, or, like I said, simply don't care. The 2257 statement does in fact appear in their websites, but what's the sense of it? Anyone can post it (correct me if I'm wrong about that one). Here is the 2257 statement of the site: [ invalid url ] (who is suddenly not based in Russia anymore, but somehow in Finland. I wonder very much why is that so?) @Hardware: I've been trying to become a member of the Eurobabe forum forever now, but to no success. Do you happen to have an account? Edited by - glass07 on 5/30/2011 7:40:00 PM [Link]

Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - May 30 2011 : 7:45PM So what do we think, is this guy for real, or doing a Duke-style feigned-mortified "Oh my lord, I can't believe how young these girls are and what beastly things they're doing to them" promo schtick to drive traffic to the sites? [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 30 2011 : 8:08PM Harri Patel wrote: So what do we think, is this guy for real, or doing a Duke-style feigned-mortified "Oh my lord, I can't believe how young these girls are and what beastly things they're doing to them" promo schtick to drive traffic to the sites? Click to expand Wow. That's beyond stupid. First of all - "drive traffic to the sites"? They don't even WANT people to know that there is a connection between the CherryVision DVDs and their network. They actually hide it. Second, you're kind of naive to think that those Russian thugs would choose such a method of advertisement, especially considering the fact that this Andrew guy is trying to hide himself so good. Also - trust me, the last thing I am is the kind of ""Oh my lord, I can't believe how young these girls are and what beastly things they're doing to them"-prude. All I'm saying is that the overall circumstances are suspicious. And I'm curious. And it's a porn -discussion- board, for fuck's sake. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - May 30 2011 : 8:34PM glass07 wrote: @RandomPrecision: It's not necessarily true that they are not hiding in the shadows. Yes, it's not an underground network, but the complete lack of any kind of information about it (nor about "Andrew") is very suspicious. Click to expand Well, I don't disagree with you that there is a particular "vibe" to all of their stuff but what I meant when I said they aren't exactly hiding Is that they are almost impossible to avoid if you surf TGPs at all. If you search for any kind of porn on the internet, something from these guys will almost invariably pop up in the results. Essentially, I'm saying that if you were a cop looking for suspicious web sites, you couldn't miss them if you tried. What I meant in plain English was that you can't possibly be the only person who has ever been curious about them. Law enforcement people do surf the web and keep an eye on porn sites, I would guess. I would have to assume for them to have lasted as long as they have, they would have had to have been thoroughly checked out by someone. Also, I don't think there's a reason for them to have any kind of problems when no one in Russia cares enough to report it. Maybe people are afraid, or, like I said, simply don't care. Click to expand I don't know anything about Russia but I seriously doubt this is true. Russia is another country. Not a different planet. People in Russia are humans just like everywhere else. The 2257 statement does in fact appear in their websites, but what's the sense of it? Anyone can post it (correct me if I'm wrong about that one). Click to expand I have wondered about that as far as all sites go. I guess you're probably right that they could "fake it". But that wouldn't help them if someone came along asking questions and wanting to see their records. I just don't think these guys would have been able to dodge this for this long if they didn't have legitimate records to show to someone asking questions about them. I don't know how it works overseas so maybe I have it all wrong. Basically, what I was saying was that the 2257 statement is the only real tool I know of to try and determine which sites are safe. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - May 30 2011 : 8:48PM glass07 wrote: Here is the 2257 statement of the site: [ invalid url ] (who is suddenly not based in Russia anymore, but somehow in Finland. I wonder very much why is that so?) Click to expand By the way, there appears to be an email addy in the link you posted for the COR. Why not mail them and ask them some of these questions directly if you're so curious? [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - May 30 2011 : 9:24PM This may be the answer or it will only help confuse people more but teen core club has recently started advertising their scenes as being available on DVD so maybe this new site is going to be that division. The same way that 21 sextury scenes appear on many different studios DVD's and other sites as well. It makes sense in a way that you aren't going to get too many customers buying your DVD when they already have the scene by being a memeber of your site. As for the performers appearing on all the different teen core club sites with only a first name then all I can say is where have you been for the last few years. It's common pratice among most Eastern European sites to use only a first name and often not even the one the performer is usually know by. I don't bother thinking the reason for it because there most be more than one. I don't attribute it to nefarious reasons on the part of the ownwers so much as a don't give a damn. I know so really great sites that have so many girls of the same name that they give them numbers. [Link]
Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04	Posted - May 30 2011 : 10:12PM I'd seen clips and pics from youngthroats.com and assteenmouth.com on the web for a long time and just recently decided to subscribe. Teencoreclub is the umbrella site, and you get access to several of their sites. The sites themselves are very bare-bones, with precious little in the way of navigation and search tools, and no way to leave feedback, but the scenes are absolutely amazing - near-HD quality, incredibly well lit and shot and great angles. Every youngthroats scene features both the head upside down position (with the girl's head hanging off the bed) and the "heel grab" position, and these two positions are among my favorites in all of porn. Every assteenmouth scene features a segment with piledriver position - also another favorite of mine. Many of the girls in the scenes do indeed show up in other euro porn, including some recent Jay Sin scenes shot in Europe, so I doubt there's any funny business with the age verification. I saw the Cherry Vision banners on ADT myself, just recently and wondered about it. They have a link to a DVD site - teencorefilms from the teencoreclub sites, and the brand name on the DVD covers is indeed Cherry Vision, but they claim they don't ship to the U.S. yet. They're not making ANY effort to hide the the fact that Cherry Vision is the DVD brand for teencoreclub scenes. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - May 31 2011 : 5:01AM If we had any suspicions of foul play we wouldn't sell them. And we do ship to the USA. Jacco [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 31 2011 : 7:57AM Cumwhipper wrote: but the scenes are absolutely amazing Click to expand You really think? Have you seen the scene with this girl called Payton? [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 31 2011 : 10:10AM RandomPrecision wrote: they aren't exactly hiding Is that they are almost impossible to avoid if you surf TGPs at all. If you search for any kind of porn on the internet, something from these guys will almost invariably pop up in the results. Click to expand That's definitely true, but I still can't help but wondering about this Andrew. I mean, seriously, this guy has been appearing in almost EVERY single scene of the network for years and years now and still he manages to maintain such anonymity. Much more than it is suspicious, it's simply interesting, IMO. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 11:38AM glass07 wrote: That's definitely true, but I still can't help but wondering about this Andrew. I mean, seriously, this guy has been appearing in almost EVERY single scene of the network for years and years now and still he manages to maintain such anonymity. Much more than it is suspicious, it's simply interesting, IMO. Click to expand You're talking about the guy with the accent behind the camera, right? You might notice a lot of their scenes have the same male performer. I don't know what his stage name is but he never tries to hide his face. If anyone wanted to find "Andrew" they could probably find him easily enough by finding the other guy. Or, if that failed, they would simply have to find some of the female performers. I think I've seen a few of them in movies by other studios. They would undoubtedly know where to find "Andrew" and/or what he looks like. The point here is that if the authorities were ever interested in finding this guy, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard. I just don't think there's anything all that "interesting" going on here. I don't know why "Andrew" chooses to not have himself be seen and I guess it is a little odd but considering the nature of some of their content, not too odd. Khan Tusion went as far as disguising his voice, IIRC. And unless I didn't hear about it, there was nothing more "interesting" going on with him than plain old misogynistic "shock" porn. Many of the models who appeared in his movies appeared in movies for almost all other American studios. And finally, if I'm not mistaken, Khan Tusion was finally outed by someone. Demonstrating that it's virtually impossible for anyone involved in making porn to be truly anonymous. [Link]

glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 12:23PM [/quote] RandomPrecision wrote: You're talking about the guy with the accent behind the camera, right? [/quote] I'm 99% certain Andrew (the guy with the accent behind the camera) -is- the performer as well. What makes you suspect otherwise? (On a side note - may I ask how many of the network's scenes (approximately) have you actually watched?) [/quote] RandomPrecision wrote: Khan Tusion went as far as disguising his voice, IIRC. And unless I didn't hear about it, there was nothing more "interesting" going on with him than plain old misogynistic "shock" porn. [/quote] I've never heard about Tusion until now. Pretty interesting. Still, like I said before, unlike you, I DO think there are many differences between the US and the Russian porn industry and also between the US/Russian police. It could be that you're right and that there's nothing all that "interesting" or "mysterious" about Andrew/TeenCoreClub, but something tells me otherwise. [Link]
MrTibbs Member 372 Posts 7/09	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 1:13PM Your assumptions are all rather groundless. Your 'mystery man' is not the main performer on the site, he talks from behind the camera occasionally while he's filming and the guy who performs in most of the scenes never says a word. Just going by the voice and accent I think I know who he is because he appears on other Euro teen sites. A lot of those sites use the same models you see on the TeenCoreClub network, you can find many of them on eurobabeindex.com. I agree with Cumwhipper, the content on the site is top-notch. The oral sex on the YoungThroats and AssTeenMouth sites is indeed rough and (unfortunately) it often does involve a little puking, but to call it "extreme violence" and hint at it being non-consensual is a huge stretch. I've seen most of the content on the network and I've only seen one scene where I can say with any certainty that the girl couldn't hang or was visibly upset. Honestly I think you're just letting your imagination run away with you. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 2:22PM glass07 wrote: I've never heard about Tusion until now. Pretty interesting. Still, like I said before, unlike you, I DO think there are many differences between the US and the Russian porn industry and also between the US/Russian police. Click to expand Oh I don't doubt that. It's just that these guys have apparently been selling their stuff to American citizens (and presumably, citizens from many other countries) for at several years that I know of. Even if the Russian authorities let it slide, I would expect that the American authorities (or authorities from some other country) would have investigated it. If there's anything at all shady about it, I would have to wonder why no one ever mentioned it? It could be that you're right and that there's nothing all that "interesting" or "mysterious" about Andrew/TeenCoreClub, but something tells me otherwise. Click to expand Maybe you're right. I guess it wouldn't be the first time something shady went on in plain sight. I just don't really see how it could go on for so long if you were. It just seems counterintuitive. Edited by - randomprecision on 6/1/2011 2:25:47 PM [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 4:25PM MrTibbs wrote: Your 'mystery man' is not the main performer on the site, he talks from behind the camera occasionally while he's filming and the guy who performs in most of the scenes never says a word. Just going by the voice and accent I think I know who he is because he appears on other Euro teen sites. Click to expand So your claim is that "Andrew" is the camera man, not the performer? That would be a contradiction to the following qoute from a blog entry I have found a long time ago. The guy who wrote it visited the TeenCoreClub studio around two years ago: The atmosphere on the set was really relaxed and we had lot’s of fun and were laughing a lot, especially with Andrew and his camera man (for the video), who are both really funny guys. Click to expand "Andrew and his camera man"... Could you please tell me in which other Euro sites you recognized him/his voice? You could also send me a private message. I've seen most of the content on the network and I've only seen one scene where I can say with any certainty that the girl couldn't hang or was visibly upset. Click to expand Which scene? And what is your opinion about the Payton scene (with the blood)? [Link]
Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 9:07PM I think the Payton scene has blood because she involuntary (?) bit down on the guy's dick! I saw a similar thing in another scene - don;t remember which one. As far as personnel - there's Andrew, the camera guy, who is ALWAYS the camera guy, and then there's the stunt cock. The same guy (NOT Andrew) is the stunt cock guy in almost every scene, although they do have a stand-in stunt cock in a few of the scenes. The violence is not extreme, in my humble opinion. They just push the girls hard, and that's kind of the point of the site, just like in similar American series like "Throat Gaggers", "Gag Factor", etc. - not exactly breaking the mold. I've seen clips from a website called Facial Abuse that make almost all Youngthroats scenes look like a walk in the park. This is all a tempest in a teapot. [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - Jun 1 2011 : 11:45PM Glass, I'm an American member of TeenCore and many of it's sites and let me assure you they are doing nothing nefarious. Yes, many of the girls look very young but they are ALL over the age of 18 and they each have plenty of documentation to prove it. As far as this "Andrew" - well he's obviously involved in the production of these scenes but just cuz he wants to remain in the background doesn't mean he's some kinda Svengali as you seem to imply. Cumwhipper and Jacco have already addressed your concerns in this thread so it would seem that any problem you have with this website is totally baseless. Edited by - Asmodeus on 6/2/2011 7:42:55 AM [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 12:47AM Harri Patel wrote: So what do we think, is this guy for real, or doing a Duke-style feigned-mortified "Oh my lord, I can't believe how young these girls are and what beastly things they're doing to them" promo schtick to drive traffic to the sites? Click to expand Whether intentional or not, the OP is doing a good job of advertising the network. I've known about TeenCoreClub since the early stages of the site. I was a member of it for a while, and I've always found it to be a good site. But if I didn't know about it, this thread woud certainly make me interested in checking it out. [Link]
Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 6:33AM ^^^ Agreed! Great free advertising for the sites. I must say, despite their near-amateurish navigation and their lack of the usual amenities I've seen on other pay sites, the teencoreclub sites have some of the best content out there, and I plan to subscribe for a long time. Hell, I've got a LOT of catching up to do. Youngthroats.com has something like 200 scenes in the can, and almost every one I've seen so far has been awesome. [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 8:04AM Cumwhipper wrote: ^^^ Agreed! Great free advertising for the sites. Click to expand So be it. I don't care about it all that much; most streaming sites are flooded by the network's videos anyway. They don't really need advertising. Look, like I said - I'm not a prude. It could very much be that you're all right about the fact that none of the girls is underage and that there's nothing mysterious/criminal going undercover and that there's nothing mysterious/criminal neither about Andrew (the voice) nor about the nameless "stunt-cock". Yet still, I don't feel comfortable jerking off to a scene shot in a room meant to look like a toddler's room, populated by little pink stuffed animals. But... to each his own, right? [Link]
Niteflyte777 Member 36 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 9:28PM Tangent question here, but just wondering why 18 is the magic age, not only in the US, but around the world? In the US, many states have consent ages that are under 18, and especially other countries, so is there a worldwide standard for this, or can a different country that has a legal age of consent of say 17, produce porn with girls 17 instead of 18? [Link]

ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 9:33PM ^The problem is they'd have trouble selling their "underage" porn to the rest of the world. And they would have trouble selling their 18+ porn to the rest of the world, because they wouldn't be trusted to keep it all straight. Edited by - ninja1 on 6/3/2011 10:02:48 AM [Link]
shalalin Senior Member 1737 Posts 11/07	Posted - Jun 2 2011 : 10:35PM glass07 wrote: The atmosphere on the set was really relaxed and we had lot’s of fun and were laughing a lot, especially with Andrew and his camera man (for the video), who are both really funny guys. Click to expand "Andrew and his camera man"... Click to expand Why do you think that means "Andrew" must be the performer? To me that blurb implies that he is the director/producer, and that he has a video camera man who is not only unseen but also unheard. Did you somehow think there can't be more two men on a porn set? Edited by - shalalin on 6/2/2011 10:42:26 PM [Link]
shark1 Senior Member 1219 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 3 2011 : 4:16AM Many of the girls that have scenes at Teencore club have numerous scenes at other sites featuring Russian girls as well - Firstanalquest, Teensexmania, Teensexmovs, Gapeland, Anal Teen Angels, etc. So I highly doubt there is anything funny going on as these sites are produced by other companies. [Link]
glass07 Member 15 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 3 2011 : 6:51AM shark1 wrote: Many of the girls that have scenes at Teencore club have numerous scenes at other sites featuring Russian girls as well - Firstanalquest, Teensexmania, Teensexmovs, Gapeland, Anal Teen Angels, etc. So I highly doubt there is anything funny going on as these sites are produced by other companies. Click to expand I know all of those sites. The ones I wonder about are the girls who only appear on one single scene for YoungThroats/AssTeenMouth and NOTHING else; sometimes they don't even appear on the Eurobabe index, which is the place that pretty much sums up everything. [Link]
Niteflyte777 Member 36 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 3 2011 : 11:15AM ninja1 wrote: ^The problem is they'd have trouble selling their "underage" porn to the rest of the world. And they would have trouble selling their 18+ porn to the rest of the world, because they wouldn't be trusted to keep it all straight. Edited by - ninja1 on 6/3/2011 10:02:48 AM Click to expand That makes sense, though with niche markets, and people always looking to find a niche, I'm surprised no company has explored this..... it's laughable to me, the fight that everyone puts up over this issue... not that I don't believe in "protecting the children"...... it's just that if so many people believed in "sexual purity", then why the fuck are they filling their societies with sexual debauchery everywhere, as though children don't see what is going on. Kids see EVERYTHING, whether adults want to admit that to themselves or not. So in a society filled with so much sexual provacative-ness, I don't buy for a second all of the selective moral outrage that comes with "age of consent". But alas, that is a topic for another thread. [Link]
Niteflyte777 Member 36 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 3 2011 : 11:17AM glass07 wrote: shark1 wrote: Many of the girls that have scenes at Teencore club have numerous scenes at other sites featuring Russian girls as well - Firstanalquest, Teensexmania, Teensexmovs, Gapeland, Anal Teen Angels, etc. So I highly doubt there is anything funny going on as these sites are produced by other companies. Click to expand I know all of those sites. The ones I wonder about are the girls who only appear on one single scene for YoungThroats/AssTeenMouth and NOTHING else; sometimes they don't even appear on the Eurobabe index, which is the place that pretty much sums up everything. Click to expand I took a peak, and they didn't look all that shockingly young to me, but that's just my opinion. [Link]
tantrahhh Member 8 Posts 10/12	Posted - Oct 12 2012 : 3:14PM So I have been following this thread for a while before I even joined, and I will add my feelings. Before I say what I feel, I wish to express that I am not here to single out anyone personally, so if anyone takes things I say personal, i.e. gets defensive feeling they have to justify their point of view, its not like I didnt say this. So here we are in the USA where most people here care to learn or have an actual awareness of very little outside of what is promoted here. People here are programed to have a point of view that the status quo for thought, business, life, ect. in the USA is the best and should be that way across the board. That is the current state of the average persons mentality and ethics. Its difficult for them to want to enter into the reality that there are some 300million people here in the USA out of 7 billion on the planet, so our culture here is the minority culture, not the majority. It is also important to keep in mind that we are living and existing in a society that is the epitome of contemporary rape culture. The foundation of the society we exist in is one where a group of invaders showed up someplace, stole everything they could (which continues to this day), destroyed to the best of their ability anything that could be used against the cult of personality they created for themselves, and lastly but certainly not least (and most relevant to this post) they RAPED whoever they could, whenever they could, wherever they could. Now if there is anyone here that wishes to dispute this by saying "columbus discovered America" and a bunch of other nonsense that come out of the rear end of some insecure twisted first generation american seeking to justify his low ethical behavior and his 'manifest destiny', bring it on. The truth will always be the truth. The foundation of many of the threads which we socialize on and around daily are sewn together with rape culture. Since this is the case, its easy to see why some people here cannot see what is right before their eyes with the teencoreclub, assteenmouth, ect. products. The crooked social foundation of this country will produce two types of defenders to the charge against teencoreclub and all of its subsidiaries: those that are in denial about what they are seeing, and those that simply dont know right from wrong. The ones that are in denial are so because they are clinging to the fantasmal illusion that is created and sustained by their porn habits. Its easier for them to deny what they are seeing because its so much easier for them than to admit the painful truth that they are watching trafficked, coerced, underaged girls being used in syndicate backed porn rings that produce this garbage as advertising. Its easier to deny than to face the truth that the girls that will end up committing suicide, being jane does after being murdered and thrown away like trash. This is one angle the defense comes from. The other angle is that there are people here that are such part and parcel of the rape culture in USA, they actually and genuinely do not know right from wrong. When they see a scene from one of these sites and a young female is having these things done to her, they are blinded by the light of a nude, physically attractive young female and cannot see the essence which is that there is a suffering person there. These are people that think this stuff, which is wrong, is right, and they are the sorts of people that really wish they could have this sort of interaction with a female in there lives, or maybe they have, and they dont want to feel like the rapist they are or aspire to be. The rest of the world is not like the USA. Women in these areas of the world are very much in danger of being duped into leaving their impoverished villages by someone selling them a dream, transported to the city, having their passports taken, getting dressed up for what they think is a legitimate shoot, arriving on set thinking its one thing, and then having their worst nightmare come true. Watch the scene with a girl called Jacklyn. Shes being throat punched by a strange mans penis and is very much disinterested. Then there is a cut. When the scene picks back up she has tears in her eyes, but continues the scene to completion. When its over, she waves half heartedly and walks away traumatized in what was probably the (and hopefully will be the last) greatest trauma of her life. These sites are THE WORST. I challenge you all to ask a female from this country that has worked in the adult film industry (if you can find one thats not on the big 4 coke, heroin, alcohol, meth; all of which greatly reduce a persons ability to think and see clearly aka see the truth) who will watch at least 5 of these scenes and then not agree that there is something seriously wrong. Im sick like everyone here to a certain degree, but I dont think that when im doing wrong that im being right, and I dont feel like being sick is okay, and I certainly do not condone taking living beings with feelings and dreams and hopes and souls and THROUGH FORCE OR COERCION breaking them down to a product called pussy, or ass, or whore, or slut. Denial is not just a river in Egypt and ignorance is not bliss. Feel free to comment or take the 'find a woman that has worked in this industry and get her analysis (provided shes trustworthy....no, drug addicts, much like porn addicts, cannot be trusted to make the call). Thank you and have a pleasant day/night/dusk/dawn. [Link]
cravenmorehead New Member 1 Posts 10/12	Posted - Oct 31 2012 : 4:31PM They're rough at young throats, but it is really fantastic to see the scared to stop looks as the teenies are gagging. Whoever dates or marries one of these little teens will already have her properly trained. I say thank you! I do prefer to train them myself. The only thing they are missing is having them talk with a cock in their mouth. After the 2nd or 3rd date, and a couple of times on the first, I ALWAYS face fuck them. I have themj tell me(whether its true or not doesnt matter) that they like being a good little whore. I also have them say 'please sir, im a good little whore, please sir cum in my mouth'. They always comply and I always make them swallow whether they want to or not. After a while they become little fuck toys ready at a moments notice. You know you have them broken in when they suck on command and let you ram it deep and hold it there as they kick their legs. I have a couple of teenies I make do that in front of my friends. Its awesome! Sometimes I let everybody fuck em. Sure they may be teary eyed and shit but in the end I truly believe they are thankful for the cock training I have provided them. Then they go home and kiss their parents with leftover jizz in their mouth. [Link]
davebowman Member 294 Posts 6/09	Posted - Oct 31 2012 : 10:38PM Its easier for them to deny what they are seeing because its so much easier for them than to admit the painful truth that they are watching trafficked, coerced, underaged girls being used in syndicate backed porn rings that produce this garbage as advertising. Its easier to deny than to face the truth that the girls that will end up committing suicide, being jane does after being murdered and thrown away like trash. Click to expand And your evidence of the 'truth' of these being trafficked, coerced, underage girls who then are either murdered or commit suicide is...er...where, exactly? [Link]
jaybrooks414 Member 120 Posts 2/12	Posted - Nov 1 2012 : 12:59AM The girls look of age to me for the most part, they have tits and stuff. The only odd thing I noticed is MANY of the girls have very young looking twats. I mean some girls have absolutely no sign of pubic hair at all...no stubble from shaving..nothing...just completely bald and smooth as can be like they havent even started to grow pubes yet. Its Weird, but I dont see how they could get away with filming underage girls on a straight up and in the open porn pay site for this long. [Link]

jaybrooks414 Member 120 Posts 2/12	Posted - Nov 1 2012 : 2:25AM Cumwhipper wrote: I think the Payton scene has blood because she involuntary (?) bit down on the guy's dick! I saw a similar thing in another scene - don;t remember which one. Im not ruling out your theory cumwhipper, but I have seen this in ALOT of scenes over the years and it always looks the exact same, and I think it might be because the guy has an std which causes a small amount of blood to spurt from the penis uncontrollably at random times, probably especially when being stimulated by a blowjob. I cant remember the name of the std but when I was in high school a guy had this std and this is exactly what he described...a small amount of blood spurting from his dick at random times. Like I said I have seen this alot, not just on teencoreclub, but many other sites, one in particular, as well as many different dvds, and if you notice there is never a visible cut or scrape on the dick at all. Every single time I have seen this I have never noticed a cut on the guys dick. Plus, dont ya think the dude would at least say "ouch!" if he got his dick bit so hard it cut him? lol Once again Im not saying your theory isnt "possible", but IM pretty darn sure its the std Im talkin about. Which if my theory is true, thats pretty fucked up that these dudes are fuckin these girls throats with a dirty diseased cock. These whores got some really dirty mouths after that shit. [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Nov 1 2012 : 2:42AM tantrahhh wrote: So I have been following this thread for a while before I even joined, Click to expand Right. You've been "following" it while it's had no activity for more than a year. This thread is a complete sham, and should be locked. [Link]
jaybrooks414 Member 120 Posts 2/12	Posted - Nov 1 2012 : 2:51AM Found this on a medical webite. i think this is what my buddy had, and what i think these male porn dudes have when you see this happen. I watched the payton scene again and when the blood apears, when he pulls out it looks to me like its coming straight from the tip of his cock. Anyway, heres what I found. Gonorrhea Pain or burning when urinating. Yellowish and sometimes bloody discharge from the penis or vagina. But, many men have no symptoms. Can be completely cured, but can be caught again, especially if both sex partners aren't treated. [Link]
tantrahhh Member 8 Posts 10/12	Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 2:52AM davebowman wrote: Its easier for them to deny what they are seeing because its so much easier for them than to admit the painful truth that they are watching trafficked, coerced, underaged girls being used in syndicate backed porn rings that produce this garbage as advertising. Its easier to deny than to face the truth that the girls that will end up committing suicide, being jane does after being murdered and thrown away like trash. Click to expand And your evidence of the 'truth' of these being trafficked, coerced, underage girls who then are either murdered or commit suicide is...er...where, exactly? Click to expand I am not a lawyer my friend; therefore I am not tasked with convincing jurors or you beyond the shadow of doubt. If its evidence you seek, launch an investigation. Or you can go ask Zuleidy why she is singing crappy pop music as a career change. I will share the following thought though...ever worked in some business long enough to be able to know things about it by intuition? Well if you haven’t, maybe you have heard of this phenomenon. A cop knows a cop when they are in civilian clothes out on the town because they know cops, people that have worked in the drug business dont have to sell to you directly to look at you and know you are an addict, and even dancers can look at the smallest gesture from another dancer, their posture of the way they reach for something, and know that another dancer is present. This sense of intuition that I am sure that you are not unfamiliar with, I do possess and keep healthy. So similarly and unfortunately, I have had my fair share of exposure to women that have been through some extreme situations where sex and violence are concerned; and it didn’t all come in one place. I lived for over a year with a young woman that was kidnapped, raped and tortured for two straight weeks not 6 months before she and I shared a home. Had an aunt (Bless her soul) who shared with me that when she was 20 years old in the 70's, she was deceived by a boyfriend and subsequently ended up a heroin addicted prostitute against her will in another state. My own mother went to retrieve her from the abductor at gunpoint, and brought her home to her family. I have been business partners and associates with a professional gentleman of leisure (they are known as pimps) serving out a 25 years sentence this very moment, one of the charges including trafficking a minor across state lines for the purpose to get money from the sale of her body, an just to show you that I am no angel (which I alluded to in my original post, in case you were paying selective attention) I knew what his profession was before I got involved with him, during a time in my life my associated ranged from women that were famous sex vixens and former hostesses of very famous late night adult talk shows (that will go unnamed, because I have at least some iota of legal savvy, not to mention class), and females that were straight up whores travelling with their partners (pimps and co-workers, if we should call them that). So let’s just say I have something in common with cops, drug dealers and dancers that is relevant to this conversation, and in appropriate context to the thoughts and feelings I shared in my original post, which you have so scornfully scrutinized. So even though there may be a lack of proof on my end that would satisfy your curiosity, lets just say there is no shortage of merit. I dont take it personal friend; it is all part of us getting to know one another. The question I have for any doubters is where have they been in life and what have they been going through that they cannot see something a blind man could tell you the color of? [Link]
tantrahhh Member 8 Posts 10/12	Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 2:52AM Edited by - tantrahhh on 1/7/2013 2:54:19 AM [Link]
tantrahhh Member 8 Posts 10/12	Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 3:00AM Harri Patel wrote: tantrahhh wrote: So I have been following this thread for a while before I even joined, Click to expand Right. You've been "following" it while it's had no activity for more than a year. This thread is a complete sham, and should be locked. Click to expand I agree with your implication that my thinking about what I will say for more than a year is unusual. I am sure it says something about my character. lol What I would like to know is whay you feel that this thread is "a complete sham, and should be locked". It would even be interesting to know what it is aboutmy post that inspired you to share such a tough/feeling. Please enlighten us. Thanks. [Link]
fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13	Posted - Oct 19 2013 : 4:42PM Anyone here anything more about this group? I've seen one of the chicks, Henessy, on 21sextury a lot recently. So, I'm wondering what the deal about this site is. I saw some scene with this girl Cassie she seems to be crying, until they cut it. Another thing that's wierd is how the girls all smile at the end of the scene, this must be choreographed. [Link]
fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13	Posted - Oct 19 2013 : 4:47PM I wish I could contact a chick that did it to see her experience with the site. [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 20 2013 : 11:32AM ^It's a dead network now. It as been dying for the last 3 plus years but their last move is what I call the last gasp. They bought some old content and they have been using that to update their network. We aren't talking about recent stuff either but content that is probably 4 or more years old. That's not to say that a first time member isn't going to get his money's worth but returning members may be very disappointed. Hennesy has been in the industry for nearly 6 years. EBI page [Link]
Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13	Posted - Oct 21 2013 : 8:00AM It's been quite a few months since I last had a membership to it, but I can say that the TeenCoreClub network isn't a dead network that no longer has updates. Yes, there are more than a couple sites in the network that stopped updating years ago, like Young Throats, Girls Got Cream and Ass Teen Mouth. But there are also some new sites (Brutal Invasion, Defiled 18, Teen Anal Casting) that have been added in the past couple months/years, and it looks like some older sites like Try Teens and White Teens Black Cocks are still providing occasional updates. (Checking out the page now, it looks like there are 3 brand new sites that weren't there since I last had a membership: Teens Try Blacks, Bang Teen Pussy and Teen Drillers.) Now maybe these are scenes that they filmed years ago and are just now releasing, but the fact of the matter is that the network is still providing updates. If anybody here currently has a membership to this network, I'd love to know how those new sites and recent updates are. [Link]
utopiaa Member 610 Posts 7/11	Posted - Oct 21 2013 : 10:45AM those 3 new sites are scenes from the xcoreclub sites that operated in 2009-2010. They just renamed the sites. [Link]
Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13	Posted - Oct 21 2013 : 11:57AM Yeah, I figured that. Some of the scenes from Teens Try Blacks looked familiar. [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 21 2013 : 7:19PM ^So I guess I was right when I said that it was a dead network. I could have said dying but that would imply that they are still updating with new content but adding content that is 3 years and older is mostly scam in my book. I still say that it can be a very good network to join but you just have to be aware that you are joining for their past content and not their new stuff. Of course no one and I mean no one should take a long term membership because you would get cheated out of your hard earned money. [Link]
Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13	Posted - Oct 22 2013 : 12:28AM Yeah, even if all of the "new" updates are not such, it's still a good network. Personally, the thing I liked best about the TeenCoreClub sites was the abundant amount of high-res photos that almost every scene had. Not only were the pics from the sex scene itself good, but there were so many fantastic high-res pics of the girls posing clothed/nude before the scene (this is what really kept me coming back). As far as the amount of high quality pictures, I can't think of another hardcore porn site/network that can compare. As for the movies, I wasn't as crazy about 'em. Some of the hardcore action was impressive, but I usually found myself getting bored watching a scene where the girl essentially doesn't say anything during the sex. Unfortunately, they charge a ridiculous amount for a monthly membership-50 bucks for the whole TeenCoreClub network or 30 bucks for access to about half of the network's sites. With those kinds of prices, you'd think that they'd be able to improve site design and navigation by adding useful tools like a model index (it was always a pain in the ass to scroll through page after page to find a certain girl.) [Link]
utopiaa Member 610 Posts 7/11	Posted - Oct 22 2013 : 10:33AM They sure have impressive back catalog and if you like anal and gapes and havent seen their stuff yet it is worth to join. Just a warning thought, only the new non recycled sites have the movies in HD, the older sites have 95 hex resolution as best quality. Edited by - utopiaa on 10/22/2013 10:35:55 AM [Link]
Nickinfl Member 41 Posts 7/16	Posted - May 4 2017 : 5:26PM Are there any other sites/networks like this in the world!? [Link]