I think I understand correctly that the sheer volume of output from LegalPorno/AnalVids/Pornbox puts them in somewhat of a gray or asterisked area wrt first anals... If so, Katrina Colt just did a (more?) mainstream anal for AllAnal (trailer).
Analvids/Lp could easily have their own thread. Two recent cuties , Red Louboutin , nice redhead with a big curvy ass and Elise Moon (Elvira Kaher) . Both did their first two scenes , anal followed by airtight DP . Red Louboutin Elise Moon [Link]
This is where I wondered if things might get interesting when we started including first mainstream. My understanding is that this only applies to Only Fans, Many Vids and a performer's own website. Sites like Exploited College Girls, Backroom Casting Couch and Legalporno/Anal Vids are to be included as mainstream. (I don't necessarily agree with that, but that is my understanding). So technically your post is off topic, but I'm also very glad that you posted it!
I can understand wanting to discount certain sites. The problem with that is where do we draw the line? Where the first mainstream works is because it doesn't invalidate the Only Fans release before it, which will always be the true first. So if we wanted to regard more sites as not being mainstream, so that those scenes get mentioned but then also the later "first" with a more established studio then I think that could work. However, I don't think Anal Vids can be regarded as not mainstream because they are the dominant studio in mainland Europe, hence why I say your post is off topic.
I personally would be happy for a performers first anal scene after doing one for ECG or BRCC being mentioned here as well, but I'm not sure if that would be the common consensus. And I am fully aware that it can be a can of worms, but I fear it has already been opened now!
I find the line is usually drawn at the type of shooting style.
Usually w BRCC/ECG they're not even credited as their performer name and the performers sometimes don't even bill it as their first anal.
Legal Porno/Anal Vids count (Most of their scenes are def not for me but they're very high quality shot) but people just prefer hearing about first anals from North American Pornstars for the most part and this topic for the most part would be flooded with russian performers (a decent amount being one and done) when Analvids has their own thread etc.
When say Aaliyah Hadid went and did her first DP for Analvids, it def counted for DP.
It was back when I was making the threads and there was a site (don't think it uploads anymore much) Let's Try Anal. Which would have badly shot anal scenes where the performers looked uncomfortable and then sometimes never did anal again, that I allowed the caveat of allowing a higher profile anal first to be worthy of being announced as well. And that was under one of the major porn companies.
But yeah if someone does a anal scene for LP/AV proper. It's always counted.
Are we back to this thread being predominantly about litigating the validity of first anals ad nauseum? What's more disruptive/annoying, one post about a non-mainstream first anal and maybe a friendly follow-up post or two saying, "actually, she took it in the ass here or there, check it out!" or sixty five posts about whether Analvids.com anals count as firsts (of course they do).
On that note, regarding Harper Red, she had an anal scene post on Analvids a few days before that manyvids scene. It was a pretty poor scene - pretty much manyvids quality - but it is there if you're interested. (edit - she has two anals on analvids. One scene is the same as the manyvids scene linked above, so you can get it either place. The other is also shot by/with Nade Nasty but it's not on his manyvids page as far as I can tell) link: Harper Red Anal
^ If we hadn't had these types of discussions then the 'first mainstream anal' wouldn't have become a thing, so it can be constructive having these conversations. If it means some people get annoyed, then so be it. My intent is to try and make this thread even better than it already is, but if people don't agree with that then I'll shut up.
I agree that people should be treated kindly even if they make posts that don't turn out to be true first anals, and I have always tried to do so.
I'm in the camp that both scenes count. Like the manyvids/on cam/onlyfans ones should def be noted. In the Harper Red case, the other vid can be found on another Manyvids. https://www.manyvids.com/Video/3583079/Harper-Red-is-a-Rimming-Anal-Slut/
Anal Vids gets deals with certain people from Manyvids to also show their content on the site.
The point isn't to say those scenes don't count. But when she does a non Manyvids anal shoot people will want to mention that as well. This is just a thread for people to mention those scenes and the first HD main one that a studio will likely put first anal infront of even though those other two exist. On which I don't see any harm in someone popping up and saying her first Mainstream anal is for e.g. Analized or Tushy or whatever.
Many of the scenes of ECG and BRCC are good first anal scenes. Analvids are high quality sooting and high quality shooting. Even many scenes from site like Manyvids are shooted like pro. So, for me, i would consider all of that and i would be happy that others guys here let me know if a model i like do her first anal whatever where it come from. This is my pov