I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 4:06PM
^^As a lot of black people will tell you, it's not an inherently racist term. For many blacks it depends on the context in which the word is used and on the person who is using it. There are white people who are given a pass by their black friends to use the term among them. Go down to Oakland, for example, and that's not uncommon at all. As to why Juelz used the term, it could have something to do with her ethnicity, her former marriage, her social circle (maybe it's predominantly black?), her upbringing (a lot of black friends?), or something else. All that said I don't have an opinion on whether or not it was appropriate for Juelz to use the term.
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 5:07PM
Well, she is a top earner in Vegas because she is a fucking star at what she does. ANd she shows up on time, does what she is paid to do with her 100% best effort, and is a professional. As for the number of studios calling her for work; we can speculate. Probably her no bullshit stance is harmful as the male dominated porn industry highly prefers women who roll over for them and do what is asked. Look, the bottom line for her is this. Can she make money as a performer. The answer is yes, she is making money hand over fist right now in Vegas. But ,for us fans, it sucks because it is so slim on the new scenes. I feel sorry for us not seeing her more, but I dont feel sorry for her. She is in command of her career and doing very well with many aspects of it.
Edited by - A_Fan on 7/30/2017 5:08:27 PM
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 5:59PM
she needs to find a decent agency. otherwise her porn career is over.
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 7:50PM
^ I dare you to go up to an African-American person that you don't know and say to them, "How are you, (N-Word that Juelz used)" and see what happens. Let's see if they consider you using that word with them as "bad behavior".
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 7:59PM
^If I go up to a black person, or any person I don't know, and begin hugging and kissing them, what would happen? Anyway, Juelz didn't go up to a black stranger and call her a "nigga" as far as I know.
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 8:09PM
^ Actually when she used the word she was talking about a stranger. Read what she wrote again. Since you seem to be okay with that word I'm left to wonder what other words you are okay with when talking about other minorities. Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 7/30/2017 8:13:17 PM
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 8:16PM
^She didn't go up to a stranger and call that stranger a "nigga." I have no interest in justifying what she said. I merely acknowledged that there are a variety of reasons why she might think that she is justified in using the word she did. As for myself, I don't take a position on whether her use of the word was "bad behavior." Had she used the word in another context I might have a different opinion. EDIT: I'm okay with the word depending on who is using it and in what context. In this case, I'm neither okay or not okay with Juelz's use of the word. I lean toward casual indifference. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/30/2017 8:21:03 PM
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 8:36PM
^ Fine. I give up. [o\|]
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vrakenbaq Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 11:17PM
Thanks a lot mate
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Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 30 2017 : 11:44PM
As someone who is part black I have no probs with Juelz saying the 'a' N word. I am downright Carlinian(George) when it comes to words and context. I was ok with Bill Maher saying it as well within the context of the use.
A swallowed scene, four other hot girls in it but Juelz steals the show with her outfit and impossibly perfect body. You know what's sad about that scene? You have Juelz Ventura in this hot fucking outfit and you only get a few seconds of her in full view. As usual in a Mike Adriano scene, all you see is his stocmach and girls faces bobbing up and down his cock. Why Mike? Fucking why?!?!? I wish he'd have two releases for all his videos, one his normal pov and one in full view. Let's see these hot girls bodies ffs!
this is not an advocation for the use of the word, nor any condonement of her behavior. She may be afro-Latina. I think the Latin in her genes are from South America, around Venezuela, Colombia, Brazil area. In that region of the continent, the slave trade had it's highest concentration of workers. So maybe she might have actual slave blood in her. Her parents may be mixed and favor the African side of their heritage more and it steadily reciprocated in her life Again not condoning the actions of the use, just providing logical speculation. Let's not pull a Lana Rhoades shut down on this thread too And as an addendum: Just from the way she dresses and acts in certain settings, you can tell she's hip to at least some of the game
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 10:53AM
^ CONTEXT????!!!! Read what she wrote again. She is angry. She used the word in ANGER. She wasn't like, "Oh that crazy N-word, he's so funny". No, she used it in anger. There's your context. Fan Bois have some messed up brain cells at times when it comes to porn girls. Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 8/1/2017 11:01:45 AM
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 11:31AM
^That doesn't mean that she's using the word as an insult or that she is even referring to a black person/black people. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. I don't know and have no basis to make an informed guess since I don't know if she regularly uses the word when she's not angry or if she uses it to refer to people in general.
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 1:59PM
You have got to be kidding. Once again: she used the word in ANGER. She meant it as an insult. And what difference does it make if she uses the word as you put it, "in general"? It's actually WORSE if she uses the word "in general". It's a RACIST word. Period. The reading comprehension skills in this thread are an indictment of the school systems around the world or maybe some on here don't care because she's "purty".
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 3:36PM
^ Oh, she was married and dated African-American men? Wel then, she can use that racist word all she wants! That makes it all okay. As long as you have dated an African-American at some time in your life you have free use of the "N" word forever. Congrats! Edited to add: So, based on your logic, since I dated an African-American woman in my past if I started throwing the "N" word around on the boards the Mods couldn't stop me because since I once dated an African-American it proves I'm not a racist and I can use that word without any penalty or consequence. Right? Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 8/1/2017 3:48:47 PM
OK Buck Naked. Can we just now move on as everyone has had their say. Now I'm just watching her in Darkko's Wet Food 3 and my oh my - it don't matter how many times ive watched it - she is just superb! Begs the question - Darkko why oh why baby - you must use her again!
Yup, Juelz is a racist POS no room for doubt. We should never speak her name again on the forum. MODS should lock the thread. Buck has spoken. ----Dread's Twitter---- Edited by - dread on 8/1/2017 3:57:36 PM
Is unnecessary when you're living in absolutes but i'll bite. Should call my wife racist since she's been known used the word before( since its an IR marriage its gonna suck since i didn't know she was like this for years. Damn) I mean since she's obviously throwing the word around right? Is that how it works? Usage and context fucking matters. If Juelz wants to throw the word around about a supposed STALKER, trying to get her agent to do something then its fucking fine. Now if she's going around calling the average black man that and such all the time? Then that's another damn story. But hey, She said it so she's a racist shit right? ----Dread's Twitter----
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 4:15PM
That she was angry when she used the word doesn't mean that she used the word in anger. If she uses the word in general, casually, to refer to people in a non-racist way (which is what many blacks and some non-blacks do), then there's no reason to assume that she intended to use it in a racist way in what she wrote. I don't know either way.
I don't know that.
I disagree with you. Most of the black people I've known and know would also disagree. Actually, it seems to me that most people who the word "nigga" are black and are not using it as a racist slur.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 4:40PM
^Okay. I won't discuss Juelz's comment any further.
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 1 2017 : 4:49PM
maybe because this is a porn forum and we would like to put aside the bullshit of the regular world and just enjoy watching hot women fuck. Maybe just maybe that is more fun that a discussion about her using the N word.
getting back on topic means there will be next to nothing to talk about. I can only hope Speigler would add her to the roster but I assume that she is burning bridges within the porn secret society