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ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 1:49PM
I'm scandalized, Stoya, by your scandilous blog post on Xcritic. From what I've read I thought you would have voted.
But instead, no, you don't? Was it all because of Biden and no Hillary?
Sure, Obama and Biden will we unable to do a lot of things they say they wish, either due to the current economic situation or the forces in Washington that control all, but a vote for Obama was more than a vote for one of two sides of the same coin. Obama is something that very few people believed would happen in their lives.
And he is more accepting of the LGBT community than McShame and his cronies ever will be.
Thankfully, Cali's Prop 8 has no legal leg to stand on, a quik law suit and its toast.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 2:41PM
Mostly, I'm registered in PA, not CA, so I didn't have a vote in the prop 8 matter (you really don't want to get me started on how marriage is a religious institution, whatever happened to separation of church and state, and how the real issue is partners being accorded the same legal rights as married couples, regardless of those partners' sexual orientation), and I'm having a year where most things that come out of my mouth prompt my older friends to say that I'm a nihilist.
Philosophical categories aside, years of work for the greater good in an abstract sense have yielded no visible results, I only have so many hours in the day, and I personally care more about dragging friends and acquaintances down to planned parenthood for their yearly std test and working on smaller community issues than I do about casting a single vote in a capitalist driven bureaucracy that appears (in my currently myopic view of the world) to make no difference since both candidates are politicians *and* have far less power to make whatever changes they have promised than they like to tell american voters they do. Hillary I would have voted for. Not because she's a woman (although I stand by my statement at AVN last year that Hillary/Obama would have been the best solution because it would have knocked out both of the main minorities and put a person with white house experience in with an opportunity for Obama to gain some more experience before being given the actual presidency), but because she continued to hold her head up, do her job as first lady, and stand by her country and husband (basically fulfill her commitments) through two terms of Bill Clinton's presidency and all of his antics. Sure, she probably has something to prove, but unlike the other candidates, there was something about her previous behavior in the political arena that gave me faith in what she says. The thing about voting for a politician to fill an office is that every presidential candidate that has been elected has promised things that they have not followed through on. I feel as though my vote should be cast based on what parts of their platform I think they will actually make good on, not just on what they say. When confronted with two candidates that don't inspire any feelings of trust in me, and therefore don't make me think that they will follow through on what they say, I chose not to pick one.
Secondarily, while I love Philadelphia I've lived there on and off for about 50% of my adult years, and will probably end up moving back to SoCal for convenience purposes. I don't feel I have the right to vote in the positions between U.S. president and head city dogcatcher, because I most likely will not be around to deal with the ramifications of my decisions.
It is quite reasonable for people to say I am misinformed on some of the things I've made statements about, and fully accept the probability that I am wrong, but lots of things are wrong and all I can do is act in the way that feels most right for me. If you don't like it, fine, don't jerk off to it. As stated on another forum, I'd rather have you hate me for being honest than love me for only talking about vaginas, oral sex, small dogs, and how much money I spent on my wardrobe last year.
popdog
Member

865 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 5:25PM
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ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 6:09PM
It wasn't meant in any way to be mean or offensive, sorry. It was just from your earlier blog post about the primaries, it did surprise me a bit. I was just trying to go along with your blog entry title.
Nothing wrong with being a nihilist. Though some view cynicism as nihilism in a way, though you mentioned libertarian roots, so I'm guessing more of a real, nothingness, nihilism.
Regarding prop 8 and marriage, there really is a difference between the religious and state institutions of marriage. Marriage conveys all sorts of rights, of inheritence, visitation in hospital, etc..., and marriage itself is WAY older than the Christian Church.
I got blasted on another board for voicing the same concerns regarding how much Obama will actually do. The two things that really convinced me though, was that his official advisors have nothing to do with the current government and financial situation, and that his health-care proposals are possibly able to improve the US system, though not to the level in Canada. Though there are powerful forces in Washington that might not let his ideas go through.
Good for you, though, to drag your friends there.
I think, for some, Hillary represent too much of the old guard, and that a totally new break was needed.
There were, apparently, about 4 others on the ballot, but I do see your meaning. You seem far too jaded and cynical about politics and life. You'd probably fare better in a Parliamentary system, where the government is much more succeptible to changes in the electorate, and such.
True enough. One thing I've wondered, which has nothing to do with elections and what not, was how your schedule worked out: was it living 6 months ata time in each place, or 3 months, or what not. Was just curious.
You do what's best for you, and I'll support you in that. I don' hate you for it, I was just surprised, is all.
I's much prefer to love you for being you, than to love you for talking about porn. I've been a fan since I first saw your shoots way back when you started modelling.
 
Boneless
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Sry for bad english, I am dumb Serb, we know how to fight, not to write ...
151 Posts
6/08
Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 10:20PM
nihilistic
few more posts like that and we can stop jerking at ur porno and go fishing...
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 2:31AM
No offense taken whatsoever :)
I really don't think I'm a nihilist. I think it's more that I'm in a period of trying to figure out what really does matter, both to me and in a larger sense. Of course, ''I'm not a nihilist'' seems to be a very nihilist thing to say. Catch 22, anyone?
When I get back to the states I'd like to pursue this conversation on marriage outside of religion.
I can see your point, although putting new people in an existing system can only change so much in a given period of time. Especially since our government is set up to give no one absolute power.
Also a good point. I know nothing about Parliamentary system, and would probably do well to continue trying to learn more about the rest of the world. Time to hit the streets and start learning about where I am right now.
For the past few months, and over the next year (or more) it's basically that where I live is where I keep all my clothes and sewing materials, and I get to be home somewhere between 4 and 10 days a month. Not all of my time away from home is work, some is traveling for family, education, or vacation, but living in SoCal would mean that my week every month or two that I spend shooting movies would also be spent at home. I'm still adjusting and trying to figure out what my schedule is going to be like long term before I make a decision on where to live, which means I've spent the past four years alternating between LA and Philadelphia. I *wish* landlords would let me sign 3 month leases.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 2:37AM
Fishing! Awesome idea. I'll go back to art, and you guys can teach me how to catch fish to support myself. I'm now trying to restrain myself from making a really bad joke about what 'bisexuals' eat.
Edited by - stoya on 11/6/2008 2:53:44 AM
Bobcat
Senior Member

1490 Posts
2/08
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 3:38AM
Try Hedonism!
Politicians are all lieing, power crazed, psychopaths, they don't want to change the world or make it a better place, it's all about money and manipulation. Religion is basically dead in the water, politics fills the void and provides a belief system for the easily lead to follow.I started a thread in the polls section last week, about voting being a waste of time, no one was really interested in debating it though.
noahped
Senior Member

2978 Posts
8/02
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 4:03AM
I'm impressed Stoya...and for all those others too that march to the beat of a different drummer, pa rum pa pum pum.
More people should be individuals instead of outdividuals!!!
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 6:24AM
Maybe those with interest in debating such things don't check the polls section.
Regarding Hedonism, pleasure can be a great part of life but a diet of only pleasure would lead to a severe lack of character, no? I think I'll stick to being Stoya and continue trying to avoid categories that seem to serve only to limit ones options and view of the world.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 6:40AM
And, as I say to all of these things, either email digital playground or wait for the eventual launch of my website. I almost exclusively shoot boy/girl and boy/girl/girl for DP movies, and (last I heard) my website is supposed to be an opportunity to fullfill all of the consumer requests that aren't likely to be addressed in a DVD release. I'm into it.
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 12:19PM
We're young, still finding our way in the world, despite being labeled as "adults". I suppose, at this point you're also trying to figure out what you will do once you do, eventually, leave porn? Full time seamstress, maybe? A Stoya-line of clothing?
Are you still in Germany, then?
We can continue it here, or if people complain too much, in private.
There is only so much Obama can do. There will be a LOT of people upset when he is done. People are looking to him and thinking that they can change the system.
Your electoral system was set up to limit the power of the people, and the governing system currently gives absolute power to the lobbyists of Big Oil, Big Pharma and Big Tobbacco.
Come to Canada, and I can teach you all you need to know.
One key point about our system: you don't directly vote for the party leader, you vote for your local representative. And election dates aren't fixed. The government can fall if it loses confidence.
It's unfortunate that the American people know so little, on average, of their neighbour to the north, their biggest trading partner.
That's a pretty hectic lifestyle.
That must be a crazy week. I imagine you walk stiff and bow-legged for awhile afterwards?
You mention education, are you attending university or college somewhere? Or doing correspondence courses?
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

^Lucy Pinder
18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 1:53PM
^ I vote +1 for coming to Canada. Then you could date me!
Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 2:15PM
No, Europe has many more different political systems to study, so you better come over here, Stoya!
Jacco
 
riichard
Member

37 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 6 2008 : 2:32PM
ChodeMasterJ
Perpetual Marxist

5405 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 12:27AM
Don't Mess With Texas.
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 4:29AM
Whats the worst Texas can do?
You've already loosed George Bush on America and the World.
TomChoad
Member

I Likes Ya
685 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 8:49AM
Stoya has her "I'm sooo eating her pussy after the show" look...
ChodeMasterJ
Perpetual Marxist

5405 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 12:45PM
there's millions more just like him, waiting to be unleashed on the world. Imagine rednecks taking over the world...
SexyHard
Member

673 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 12:53PM
Bush isn't a redneck, he just plays one on TV. He's very much a rich east-coast WASP. The family only got into oil after their banks were confiscated for doing business with the Nazis during World War 2.
noahped
Senior Member

2978 Posts
8/02
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 1:59PM
Ha, and don't think Stoya needed to use the old yawn-then-arm-over-the-shoulder move...she's got enough thick game to do whatever she wants to anybody she wants.
bogias231
Member

10 Posts
10/08
Posted - Nov 7 2008 : 2:04PM
sexyhard you are well informed!!!
Stoya cant wait to read your next blog entry....
mark59
Member

always took candy from strangers
31 Posts
10/08
Posted - Nov 8 2008 : 9:04AM
GW Bush really isn't a bad guy. He just wasn't made out to be President. Stoya on the other hand, has my vote!
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 1:12AM
Thanks noahped, but you'd be surprised how little game I have. I'm not used to chasing people :)
 
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 1:21AM
Europe is pretty bad-ass. I'm sad I have to go home next week for work.
michael1280
Member

47 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 3:59AM
Stoya why limit yourself to Philly or California. I want to personally invite you to the lovely Pacific Northwest. There are many great things about the Northwest, like women strapping on a Telecaster and blowing out your eardrums in a basement show, men who don't shave the hair on their chest, and lets not forget the largely unenforced smoking bans and also the abundance of home Brewed beer. But the real reason to move here the people are just fucking crazy.
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 5:00PM
But if you move slightly north of there, to Vancouver, B.C., there will soon be a Canadian porno valley, to support the new porn cable TV station.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

^Lucy Pinder
18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 5:20PM
^At this rate Stoya is going to get requests to go pretty much everywhere in the world!
I still say she should come to Toronto though.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 6:34PM
Because the adult industry is in California and my parents and friends are close to Philly. Duh. :) If I move somewhere that isn't LA or Philly/NYC, then I have to fly for work *and* to see my family.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 9 2008 : 6:36PM
Ooh.. really? That's something to think about....
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 10 2008 : 12:40AM
Yeah, it got regulatory approval during the summer. They say it will have a minimum of 50% Canadain content.
Plus B.C. has some of the best weed in the world, if thats your thing.
But I agree with Killbill. Come to Toronto. So much to see and do.
I can get you into the biggest and best club, if nightclubs are your scene. If not, there's a varied selection of pubs and bars. Toronto is the most multicultural city in the world, after all.
I'm getting ready for that marriage discussion, when you get back to America...
TomChoad
Member

I Likes Ya
685 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 10 2008 : 11:00AM
More of a ChasEE than a ChasER, huh?

ExtremeGonzoFan
ArinsystmaticX is done.

Sasha Knox with all her cuteness, is back in town!
378 Posts
6/08
Posted - Nov 10 2008 : 1:33PM
I have never been attracted to pale skin, until I discovered you Stoya. There is just something very special about you...that makes you very, very, sexy. You taking it up the pooper also helps, of course. Just being honest here.
noahped
Senior Member

2978 Posts
8/02
Posted - Nov 10 2008 : 9:02PM
No, come back to Wilmington next summer...we can chillax on Wrightsville Beach and shocka bra in some festy ankle snappers. *surf lingo*
 
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 12:09AM
She's been to that state/region before. She hasn't, atleast not to my knowledge, been to Canada before. We're a far more liberal place, where it is legal for women to walk around topless.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

^Lucy Pinder
18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 12:43AM
^Yeah but only in Toronto. (Which is where we are. How convenient. )
She can also marry a lesbian lover while she's here, if she feels like it.
Oh yeah, Toronto is totally winning the "Stoya come visit me" contest!
Boneless
Deactivated User

Sry for bad english, I am dumb Serb, we know how to fight, not to write ...
151 Posts
6/08
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 1:36AM
I would invite her to come to Serbia... but... only mad or crazy comes here...
Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 4:53AM
It's legal to walk around topless here too. And we have coffeeshops...
Jacco
Zoid
Senior Member

Boobies and Anal
2004 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 6:09AM
You don't want to go home. You want to travel all across Europe, eventually settle in Holland, and become a Kaasmeisje.
(Jedi mind trick.. )
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 11:45AM
Actually, I went there. My friend that was meeting me there didn't have the right travel documents though so we ended up in the EU instead.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 11:48AM
What is this?
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 1:00PM
A quick google reveals this: kaasmeisje.jpg
Bobcat
Senior Member

1490 Posts
2/08
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 2:51PM
Coffeeshops..... LOL, Amsterdam has the only "coffeeshops" that I feel sleepy afer visiting. Window shopping is fun there too......
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 3:42PM
That's freaking awesome. But if I don't go home, Digital Playground is going to run out of Stoya movies in a few months. I'm just getting started with the whole dirty little fuck tiger thing, so I have to swing through socal every couple of months, you know?
Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 11 2008 : 4:38PM
It's very simple, Digital Playground just has to move their headquarters to Amsterdam and then pay you for moving here! Ok, we have a bit more rain than SoCal, but our laws are much nicer for pornographers.
Jacco
trip66
Member

Squirt and DP fan
255 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 12 2008 : 6:35AM
Stoya, what part of Philly are you from? You look like the sister of a girl I used to know.
ekiqa
Member

43 Posts
9/08
Posted - Nov 12 2008 : 9:16AM
Just remember that Stoya's promised me a discussion on marriage before anything else.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 12 2008 : 1:08PM
I'm an only child, so it's doubtful.
Stoya
Member

430 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 12 2008 : 1:08PM
Yep. Sunday night.
TomChoad
Member

I Likes Ya
685 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 12 2008 : 3:11PM
Stoya: What color are your eyes?



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