pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jun 7 2016 : 2:15PM
Well there is a start and stop button right there. No a reality show fan but this is pretty good. Sound was rough first episode but has improved since and the show now looks as good as anything on cable I'd say. No problem with the guys being featured but so few of them can perform it seems obvious who has the best chance of succeeding there. The male stripper sequence seemed to be done for laughs, kinda typical when presenting male nudity these days. I prefer the sex scenes to be short , full scenes are availble in the BTS. Kieran Lee seems to be the most active and helpful in coaching the performers through their scene. Holly Randall also had some interesting stuff to say, I like the BTS industry aspect the most over any pretend drama, which they seem to be not overplaying so far.
Reading the thread from the beginning, there were plenty of premature opinions flying around without even a viewing the content. As someone mentioned this is ground breaking stuff. Imagine if they got the BIG names involved. We're talking Anikka & Mick Blue, Greg Lansky, Lexington Steele and Jules Jordan. If these performers/producers spoke, pornstar wannabes better shut up and listen!
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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 12:40AM
Watched the last 3 episodes.The show is so interesting,entertaining and quite informative.Also very funny and dramatic at times. The judges are also still likeable.And that they kept their distance a little bit in the last episode is also an intelligent approach.Otherwise I can imagine that it can be too distractive ,especially for the male contestants.Life and sex (in front of the camera) is more and less a mind game. Khaya Peake is an impressive performer.Her scene in the last episode was impressive.You can see that she is really into it.Blair Williams is still the hottest girl overall.Blair was also excellent in the photo shoot episode.Her body is incredible and she is very dominant in front of the camera. The last episode ended practically in a cliffhangar.It was incredibly awkward,dramatic and somewhat hilarious.Shocking stuff.Just brutal.Even the judges couldn't believe what they were seeing. Great and impressive show overall.Nothing like this out there. I find it weird,however,that 3 of the contestants left the show voluntarily in recent episodes.Imagine Blair and Khaya leaving in the next episode,because they have better things to do.Something like this would kill the entire show. Still the potential of the show and the format is amazing.They could integrate so many great ideas,concepts and sub-genres.A lesbian sex scene between the contestants could be very promising.Would love to see that.So Blair+ Khaya e.g. and Tori,Remy,Lexi giving them the direction/hints.Could be a classic.
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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 1:02AM
I hope Blair does a scene with that black guy (I forgot his name). Also does Allie Eve Knox still do porn?
I just learned about this series last night, and quickly watched all four episodes so far. Found it really exciting, interesting, cool, new, fun. I'm a porn fan.. a true porn fan, as in I don't just want to watch people fuck but I have an actual interest in the industry and its operation, and the people in the industry. I'm not one of those cynical, narrow minded judgmental types who generalise porn stars in derogatory ways, I appreciate they are all very much regular people. I'm open minded, want to know about the performers, and am interested in them. I'm really into the psychology of porn, like how a sexy, stunning lass does such dirty, naughty, nasty things with Mike Adriano for example.. Anyway I digress, I feel compelled to say that reading the first two pages of this thread just now, having discovered and gotten up to date on this show last night, with the benefit of hindsight n' all I saw how wrong a lot of things said in the first two pages were. I also think many harsh, judgemental, cynical and negative things were said man. "Who cares/No one cares any more/it's a failure" why so negative and cynical guys. Look what happened, the show is officially out and it has the potential to make porn so much more mainstream and accepted which I think would be an awesome thing (the way porn stars are treated in many ways, discriminated against more than ex-cons in post-porn employment some times, well I think it's a disgrace. Regular people. Often cool, nice people). I dunno'.. just feels like people might ought to be more positive about this thing. If anything the weakest part of the show for me is the editing. Its runtime limits it. 35-40 minutes an episode ought to be sufficient I would think. Anyway I'm pissed now that I gotta' wait another whole week to see the next episode. Also.. the red head.. oh damn she is stunning! So gorgeous, cute and graceful. Gorgeous, cute and graceful all together - well that oughta' be an ace combination for a female porn star. I would desperately love for her to make it but I get the feeling she's one of the ones who didn't :(
Also, being a mega anal fan, what do you think are the chances that we will see some anal in the later episodes? They can't be naive and not address the fact that anal is hugely popular in porn can they? That the vast majority of girls in porn now at least do a little anal, and that it is tremendously difficult to really make it huge without doing anal, unless say they have another kinda' niche or maybe they do loads of erotic G/G stuff. I know in the trailer there were butt plugs and stuff, but I mean actual anal sex... maybe they don't want to do that as they want to give the girls an opportunity to save their anal debut for when they want to do it... much like how Aria Alexander is frustratingly teasing us by still not doing anal! But that's another story...
I like the idea of the show but it's really very half-assed production-wise. After ripping off the industry as a tube site for years, you figure the least XHamster could do was put together something high quality. But I don't think this series would cut it anywhere BUT a porn tube site. For one thing, oddly enough, there's hardly enough sex! It appears to be edited by a drunk monkey. And aside from that intro week, I don't see any extras or outtakes (at least throw some extended fuck scenes up online if they don't fit into the episode of the week). I'm assuming that Blair and Donnie win since they seem to be keeping busy.
It's not that bad dude. The production quality is actually pretty decent, picture quality is good. Its pretty well shot as well man, good angles, someone complained about the sound but I think they're exaggerating as it's not a major motion picture and it actually sounds fine. I have seen way worse produced programming on television, so the only reason it wouldn't air anywhere other than on a porn site because it does still technically constitute porn and so most other places wouldn't allow it anywhere. As far as I'm concerned this is certainly well produced enough for playboy tv, however I think its' better off online; you appear not to have noticed that online viewing is the future. Youtube is huge and has been a format for guys my such young age to become ridiculously rich famous superstars, netflix has tons of original television shows; television shows that are not even on television. Hardly enough sex? This is not porn first, it's reality tv first. It's a look into porn BTS, the training and making of young aspiring porn stars. Not nearly enough fucking? There is actually a decent amount for saying each episode is just under a half hour runtime, which in itself struggles to fit in enough content so if there were too much fucking it wouldn't be much other than a regular porn itself. Actually the fourth episode was almost entirely fucking, so much so that they only got through two couples attempted scenes, together taking up almost the whole episode! Y'know largely 'cos Black was struggling so much so it went on so long. So right there is a blatant contradiction of your statement that there is not enough fucking.. unless you wanted the fourth episode to just be only fucking from start to finish without an actual story.. wait that sounds familiar.. ohhh yeah that's run of the mill porn. There are a decent amount of extras and outtakes, just because they were all uploaded in the first week (?), that doesn't deplete the amount of extras and outtakes there actually are. Maybe more will come. Edited by - Electric_Logan on 6/13/2016 8:53:32 AM Edited by - Electric_Logan on 6/13/2016 8:55:41 AM
I pretty much agree with Electric Lgan. After interviewing Dani Darko, I really expected it to be a very poor presentation, with just a lot of same old, same old security, right now they packed in a different package. But, it really is a unique glimpse into the industry. While it certainly isn't something that truly exists anywhere, it is much more truthful and honest than the Netflix story that tried to portray days the way model houses work. I'm truly looking forward to the next episode.
Reading that interview I had the benefit of hindsight as I had all ready watched the show, and I figured Dani seemed bitter to be honest, which made sense as she didn't take her departure from the competition well.
No, I'm well aware. I've used Apple TV for years. What I meant to convey was that in terms of quality, the series would not likely merit any more legit exposure than a porn tube site (or equivalent). Even if you subtract the graphic moments. Although maybe it could show up repackaged into something somewhere in the pay-cable/streaming-verse. That said it probably has more audience on xHamster than anywhere else conceivable. As for the sex vs. BTS question: Sorry, I really expected more sex. And I'm disappointed not to see it. But, hey, that's just me, a porn fan who – go figure! – expects the porn to at least be on par with the "reality." Not knocking it 100%. The personalities are cool, mostly, and the premise is fun. I just don't think it's all that impressive so far.
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Posted - Jun 15 2016 : 11:05PM
Losing Caspian right off the back seems like it hurts the series a bit as he was such a freak that he would have provided a lot of trainwreck viewing, plus he had a big dick and could perform.
If nothing else, the show is making it clear just how few people are cut out to have sex on camera. Most of the time, they can't complete the scene. It's almost like an advertisement for the judges.
The accusations from Khaya Peake about getting hurt and even hit a black eye by Hero Protagonist, without being stopped/protected enough by the director/producers, are of course a major turn-off
^^ If you check Khaya Peake's Twitter page (@KhayaPeake) , it becomes all too painfully clear! She was on the wrong end of some horrible stuff with that show, which involved Hero Protagonist! The photos that Khaya has posted on Twitter are most heart breaking!! This has gone beyond mere accusation. I for one, applaud Khaya Peake's courage in coming forward! For those who aren't on Twitter, there is also more on Khaya Peake's ADT Topic Page: Khaya Peake: Has It Goin' On!
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Posted - Jun 17 2016 : 11:31PM
^ Have they started filming the 2. Season? Tori is a good judge.Buy maybe they want to add new judges or she has some other disagreements with the producers.She does sound bit angry though. Who would we like to see as new judges instead of Tori and maybe Asa,Remy and Lexi? I would imagine the new judges would be big-hitters and really famous.They should be confident,well-spoken,popular,experienced and maybe also really good-looking.Being opinionated and straightforward would also help. The show loves tension,suprises and controversies. Riley Reid? Mia Khalifa? Carter Cruise? Lisa Ann? Gianna Michaels? Eva Angelina? Brandi Love? Alexis Texas?
Maybe add a famous director or producer as a judge too?Greg Lansky would be interesting to say the least but he is probably too busy. The judges-contestant interactions are half the show so it makes sense that they would want to add new dynamics and new controversies.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jun 18 2016 : 6:44AM
They seem to be derailing the show by getting rid of the Colonel. He is certainly not a handsome guy but he could perform, which NONE of the remaining male performers have been able to do consistently. He also was one of the few 'characters' that would keep viewers watching for laughs or curiousity. Keeping the limp dick Buddy Hollywood there instead makes zero sense.
I completely agree with this, like the Colonel absolutely looks out of place in the porn industry but he gave solid scenes, got hard instantly and was one of the few guys who could actually cum on camera. Buddy Hollywood I think genuinely felt bad about the Colonel being sent home because he knew that he should've gone home instead. The Colonel should've made way further than he did.
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Posted - Jun 18 2016 : 6:08PM
The Khaya Peake /Colonel scene was hot precisely because of the contrast between the classically pretty girl and the nerdy looking guy. He should get a lot more work in this biz at least for the likes of naughtyamerica/brazzers, he'd be really good for those student/stepson/pizzaguy/dork roles. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 6/18/2016 6:10:47 PM
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Posted - Jun 25 2016 : 1:18AM
Is it just me or did Episode 6 seem completely staged? It seemed like they were reading lines...
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Posted - Jun 25 2016 : 5:15AM
Episode 6 was outside the Blair scene very mediocre.Felt they were talking more about the contract details of the contestants than to focus on moving the show forward.It was almost like a filler episode.
If the accusation from Khaya Peake is real, it doesn't surprise me that Tori is one and done. If you remember how she reacted toward Dani Darko when she pushed things too far, it's not surprising that she wouldn't want to stay involved.
I have to agree that this show is turning out to be much less than what it could be. It just goes to show the difference in ability from directors/producers in the porn industry and mainstream TV. There is a lack of direction, focus, fluidity. It's a shame they decided to make this more of a chopped up porno than a true reality show.
I'll have to admit I was a little disappointed in Episode 6. Not that it was without redemption, but more that it lacked continuity. The Khaya Peake allegations (if true, which we have to assume they are) is a real story. With all the controversy with Bill Cosby, James Deen, etc., it's an important subject to explore, but I doubt it will be. It's unimaginable how something as violent and crude could happen with so many people in the house. Why wasn't there an outrage at the time? With all the cameras, why didn't someone catch it? It's totally unacceptable; why didn't someone call the police? How could the guys see this and not speak up? I just don't understand. And, Adrian Lee Ray's shooting with James Deen before the TSF filming certainly broke the rules. We'll soon find out if the producers believe in the rule of law or the rule of whatever-gets-more-viewers. IMO, you need to stick with the premise of the show, otherwise it's just another scripted porn show. While I know Blair Williams is a favorite of many following the series, (she is incredibly cute and cuddly) I truly lost respect for her in the scene with Donnie. To me, she just seemed like a droid, doing nothing more special than brushing her teeth. The sex didn't seem special at all. But, that's just my opinion. As I understood it, Motley Models was to handle all the post-show bookings. The only ones still listed at Motley are: Blair Williams Donnie Rock Buddy Hollywood I'm sure they are disappointed. In the meantime, I'm waiting for the Monday release of the behind the scenes videos. There is quite a lot of good advice for anyone thinking about getting into the industry. I'm glad they've kept that part of the series fairly real.
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Posted - Jun 27 2016 : 6:26AM
I have seen the scene between Blair Williams & Keiran Lee (Digital Playground, Blair Williams & Keiran Lee, How To Sign A Porn Star). Are there any other scenes between the coaches/host and contestants from 'The Sex Factor'? Thanks.
None of the female performers working with Sex Factor shot with any of the contestants as far as I know. So just look at Brazzers and DP and see if you can find scenes of the female contestants with Keiran. I don't know of any others, but I wouldn't be that surprised if Allie Eve Knox did one.
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Posted - Jun 28 2016 : 4:23AM
I have seen the scene between Blair Williams & Keiran Lee (Digital Playground, Blair Williams & Keiran Lee, How To Sign A Porn Star).
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Posted - Jun 28 2016 : 5:09AM
For the non-believers..... that is definitely Blair Williams And Keiran Lee.
I wonder if the show might have been more interesting if the newbies worked with seasoned performers. One problem with putting two "novices" in a scene is that you can't tell which one's at fault when the scene doesn't work out, basically any scene not involving Khaya Peake at this point. With a proven performer, you at least have a better idea about the newcomer's actual ability to pull off a scene. At this point, the main storyline seems to be that most guys can't get or sustain an erection when conditions and partner aren't ideal and if they do, they can't orgasm on camera. Mostly, it's great publicity for Keiran Lee. If Blair Williams did win the thing, I'm amazed by the number of misfired scenes she's had.
^^ Good point. Although I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to see all the scenes be between seasoned performers and newbies, it would add another layer to have at least some. If nothing else, TSE is giving a boost to all the good male performers out there: it's not as easy as it looks!! All-in-all, the series has out performed my expectations. Hopefully some of the ideas coming out of this forum will be incorporated into Season 2.
Yes, I do like a decent newbie-newbie scene, but if it's going to be 90% fails....I'd rather have more amateur-seasoned performer until we know the contestant can get it right. Also, the number of "washouts" has been a bit too high. It might be realistic, but "hey I got a contract", "already did a scene with James Den", "I creeped out all the women in the house", etc. isn't exactly entertaining until you have some level of interest in the competition. You also want the winners to be winners not just individuals who didn't grossly break the rules. Given how many contestants got kicked out, I'm shocked that they wouldn't throw someone out for hurting another performer or at least going beyond her stop point.
