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Nameless1
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Posted - Jun 12 2011 : 11:46PM
Thinking of ripping my DVDs and digitizing them. Any advice? What format is best? I want to maintain the quality, etc.
I found a program to do it, but just wondering if anyone had some tips. I want to store them on a hard drive (instead of having DVDs)
Rod
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 : 1:32AM
DVDs are digital. You can just drag and drop to your HD. VLC will play them from your HD just like a DVD.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 : 5:42AM
Depending on how many of them you have, you're probably going to spend a lot on hard drive real estate.
One question - Are you going to keep the DVDs or get rid of them?
Unless you want the risk of losing everything hanging over your head all the time, you're going to want to make at least one backup copy on a separate physical drive for each DVD you put on a hard disk. And even that isn't foolproof. If I had a bunch of DVDs that I spent a lot of time and money collecting and I was going to put them all on hard drives, I wouldn't really feel comfortable with anything less than three separate copies of each movie. And ideally, you'd want to keep the third archive in a separate location in the safest place you can think of to store it.
The problem here is with DVDs, if you lose one or two or five or ten, it's a loss but not a huge one. You can replace them or if not, at least you only lost ten. If you lose a terabyte sized hard drive full of DVDs, you lost every one of them in one pop. And though it's unlikely, it's technically feasible that two hard drives could fail around the same time. Maybe a fire or a theft or something equally catastrophic.
I guess it depends on how much your collection means to you. Fortunately, hard drives are relatively cheap. But they're far from free. If you have a large collection, you could be looking at a significant investment. And it's still possible you could lose it all (or at least a big chunk of it) due to the inherent unpredictability of hard drives. DVDs DO degrade too and it's true that they won't last forever either. But a brand new hard drive could fail in a week. You just never know.
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/13/2011 5:55:14 AM
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 : 1:56PM
Consider getting a digital media player. This would allow you to watch all your computer-stored videos from any TV in your house, provided you have a home network. What does this have to do with ripping DVD's?? Well, you would need to ensure that the ripped DVD files are readable by your digital media player. So you need to choose the file format based on the capabilities of digital media player.
Nameless1
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 : 10:43PM
Thanks for the responses.
Dragging and dropping would be so easy, but doesn't always work (some files can't be read). I guess it depends on the DVD. Ripping them seems like it's going to be pretty tedious though...
My intention was to take my library and put them on a HD or Flash Drives. Then, I can watch my DVDs with one of those media players, or just plug the flash drive into my current DVD player (has a USB port and plays different media). So really it's a convienience and storage thing. I really like the shop I normally go to, but I think I'd try more purchasing and downloading online (I know, I know). Just purchase, download, store.
I have mixed feeling about it though, because I wouldn't want to lose anything. And if I'm going to end up making back up discs just so I have them "just in case" (which I would do), I might as well just keep the DVDs.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 9:17AM
^ Well, if you don't mind keeping the DVDs, that changes everything. Just store the DVDs somewhere where they're out of your way but not exposed to any harsh or extreme conditions. I wouldn't recommend a garage or even a basement.
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EDIT - Though if you don't have a lot of them you could store them in
Something like this (Without the ice, of course). That would keep the moisture away and the extreme temps wouldn't bother them much I don't think.
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If they were cheaper, I'd say you might try a solid state drive. They wear out too but they might be more reliable while they last than a mechanical platter-based drive. The problem is they're expensive. I think a 150 GB SSD is still about $250 or more. And really, the way you say you want to do it, you'd be best off with external hard drives.
I can't advise on dragging and dropping files. So far, everything I've tried that on worked for me. Maybe some of them are copy protected or something so you can't pull them off the disc?
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/14/2011 3:43:20 PM
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 4:36PM
If drag and drop doesn't work then there are one or more bad sectors on your DVD, either that or the disc needs cleaning.
Really, there is no media that is permanent, not even your DVD will last. The closest you can get to permanent storage is probably space on somebody's internet "cloud", which is just their data storage farm that's accessible over the internet.
Nameless1
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 4:58PM
Thanks again.
Now I have another question. It may be a stupid one.
If you drag and drop, or even if you "rip" the DVD with a program, it's always going to separate everything, am I correct? I mean, it won't rip a "complete" movie, but separate all the chapters. It would be nice if it could be done without separating the chapters. On non-features it's not a big deal, but with features....
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 5:13PM
I don't know about drag and drop, but most of the rippers I've seen just create a single file which is the entire movie. Sounds like this is what you want. But be aware that this means you can't quickly jump to scene3 of your favorite porn flick. Depending on what you're using to play it on, it may involve leaning on the FF button for a minute or two, or typing in the minutes:seconds or moving a slider with your computer mouse, or something.
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 5:27PM
Chapters do not comprise individual files. Chapters are just indexing. The movie itself is broken up across several VOB files, and a chapter may be on one or more of those.
If you're trying to get an entire movie in a single file then you'll need a conversion program that can read your .VOB files and convert them to another format, like WMV or AVI, which take less space. As to which format is best, that depends on what you intend to play the files back with.
WMV is a proprietary format, so people have to pay Microsoft in order to include readers in their players. Thus, other formats like AVI are more widely supported.
However, if you're just going to use Windows then WMV should be fine.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 6:11PM
I have used one of those programs that let you merge files without reencoding them to merge all the VOB files into one big VOB file. It works but you have to make sure you get them in the right order. And I don't know if those media reader boxes will read them.
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 6:31PM
Some do, some don't. There is no group of "standard capabilities" in the media box world. For example my Patriot Box Office will play WMV files, but only WMV9 (and not WMV8 or WMV7). Anyone considering buying a media player should do thorough research, and carefully assess their own particular needs.
Nameless1
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 10:24PM
Does anyone know if Handbrake rips DVDs into a single movie file? Anyone have experience with Handbrake?
Rod
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 : 10:46PM
Yes, I use it frequently, but typically to convert one scene from a DVD to a MP4 file. I've never tried to convert an entire DVD to a single MP4 file.
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 : 7:54PM
If you're going to use a media player, you're better off breaking the movies into individual scenes rather than a whole movie as one file. Most media players aren't as good at dealing with chapters as a DVD player is. You don't what to have to manually fast forward through a disc to get to a scene that you want to watch. Either way, Handbrake will do what you're looking to do as long as the disc isn't encrypted. Handbrake does not break any encryption.
Personally, I prefer creating .mkv files with Handbrake than mp4 files. But that's because it was recommended to me for use with my media player and I've only had good results. So, why change?
If you decide to use Handbrake, download one of the "nightly builds" rather than the official release. They have more functionality. Technically, the nightly build is a beta versions of the software. But I've never experienced a problem with a nightly build. If you do experience a problem, just wait a day or to and download the next nightly build that becomes available.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 17 2011 : 7:00AM
[invalid URL removed]Something I just ran across
I have no idea if it'll be useful for the OP or not and I haven't personally tried it but it looks like a useful utility for people looking to reencode.
Edit....
Another possibly useful page
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/17/2011 7:26:35 AM
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 17 2011 : 9:01AM
By the way, Nameless1. If you ever get it all done, it would be cool if you'd let us know what you decided to do and how it turned out.
Nameless1
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Posted - Jun 17 2011 : 3:09PM
Thanks guys.
Well, just testing the waters right now, but I'm trying the "drag and drop" method. It seems to be working so far, but I'm not getting a real clean cut between scenes. It just separates the movie into blocks. Works well for the computer, but I would have to edit and convert if I wanted to play them on my TV.
Anyway, for now, I'll drag and drop. Once I have all my folders/files together, I'll burn them all on a couple back up DVDs. Then I can watch on my computer (VLC), or if I want to watch on my TV, I can take steps to do that.
Edited by - nameless1 on 6/17/2011 3:22:36 PM
Edited by - nameless1 on 6/17/2011 3:49:50 PM
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Posted - Jun 17 2011 : 3:19PM
Again, the VOB files do not have any relationship to either the chapters or scenes.
DVD Decrypter may be your best bet if you're looking to extract chapters from your DVD.
rodtheripper
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Posted - Jun 18 2011 : 12:52PM
This conversion is pretty simple. You can install VLC Player to decrypt and Handbrake to create the mp4/mkv files. I use just the gerneal settings to create an mp4 file that is h.264. If you want to buy a product, you should consider AnyDVD by Slysoft, but generally porn does not encryption or it used to be wide open. So I create mp4 files using Handbrake, store them on a Netgear ReadyNAS Ultra6 and stream them around the house using a PS3 or PLEX on my PC.
In another idea, you can create ISO files of the DVD and store them because he ISO will be a copy of the DVD, titles, etc. You would need something like Daemon Tools to play them.
I find the mp4's are small with good picture quality.
My 2 cents.
Rod
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Posted - Jun 18 2011 : 7:24PM
^drag and drop creates a duplicate of the DVD also, and it's very quick. Handbrake works great, but very time consuming. It does have the advantage of allowing you to create a file for each scene. That allows you to drop any scenes you really don't like and don't plan to watch again. But the MP4 is a compression (h264) of a compressed DVD (mpeg2 I think) file. There has to be some quality change if that matters.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 19 2011 : 7:05AM
I have several DVDs I put on my hard drive in the form of ISO files using DVD Shrink. Of course, it compresses them to about half size and obviously, that's not full quality but if you just want to watch them on your PC (or whatever) without having to swap discs all the time, the quality is very acceptable.
Just realize if you do it that way you can't ever get the full quality of the original DVD back if something happens to the DVD. And again, not sure if those media players will play ISO files.
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