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HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 2:40AM
Seems like my golden oldie is about to poop out - it's locked up (or partially locked) a few times today. I took it the cover/case off, vacuumed it out, made sure the fans were working - just in case it was an overheating issue vs a software thing. Also running a spy program search.
But anyhow it's time for a new one - sticking with Windows - anything to look for? HP okay? Aser? Just kidding about that one. I think I'd just as soon pop in to Best Buy and pick something up in the morning. I could go for the whole package or just the processor/cpu - I'm a thrifty Yankee at heart so cheaper is better.
My last computer was homebuilt - I didn't really have the knowhow, but a techie friend helped pick the pieces...I remember we bought separate graphics and sound cards vs the integrated motherboards stuff.
Edited by - heynow on Feb 3 2008
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 2:59AM
Oh yea, mostly use it for internets etc, simple stuff but video editing and games are always possible too.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 8:24AM
Put a dollar amount on your new project.
Also, what do you have (specs)?
Need to know before advising to toss.
conquistador
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 10:34AM
Do you want a store bought machine or are you still into getting a friend to help you put a box together?
And you can definitly save money by making your own. I noticed you didn't mention a need for increased storage so you could just transplant your drive(s) and avoid reinstalling windows (or buying a new copy, or dealing with shitty Vista).
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 1:39PM
When I bought my PC over the summer, a co-worker pointed me to Cyberpower PC. I ended up buying an modified version of their top "Mid Range Gaming PC".
I'm not into gaming, but this model allowed for the configuration that I wanted. I bumped up some things and cut back on some other things.
I've been very happy with this machine.
 
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 1:58PM
Thinking under $1000, I know I can get something that sounds pretty good at Dell for around $800, the bestbuy thing was if I needed something this weekend (plus I have $250+ in giftcards laying around.)
Back to the current - it didn't lockup overnight - but when I tried to fire up Outlook it crapped. I'm installing and importing over emails onto something called Thunderbird - but that crapped out too hitting the server for new emails. I think I'm having a problem there!
Harri Patel
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 2:31PM
Are you sure it's a problem with your computer, versus your ISP's e-mail server?
PS Ignore ^ if you just want an excuse to buy new machine.
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 3:32PM
It WAS a pesky email - I went to my ISP webmail, saw it, read it, and deleted it. No more problems. It wasn't spam or virus infected (as far as I know) but from a relative and included a couple of vacation pics. Sent from a Mac, I believe.
But it is very much time for a new one. This one was bought when Clinton was in office. Dubya was just a wetdream back then!
Anyhow, as far as Dell - Inspiron or pay extra for the XPS model line? Vista or XP?
I'm off to read the computer buying thread from last summer....
conquistador
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 3:54PM
Get XP if you can. It's the most stable OS MicroSoft has ever made.
conquistador
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 3:56PM
Even if you get a factory built machine you ought to still be able to transfer your current drive into it. Likely the new stock drive will be larger and SATA but if your current one is not failing then you can just move the drive and not worry about backing up all your stuff.
EDIT: MY 2006 build machine has drives from a 1999 machine and a 2003 machine in it as well as 2 huge new ones.
Edited by - conquistador on 2/3/2008 3:57:51 PM
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 4:51PM
The Dell deal I got for my mom seems to make her happy ... about $750 (the Vostro) ...
I'm like a Mac fanatic, so can't really talkl PC.
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 5:58PM
That Gamer Infinity XLC is nice for 1500 except for Vista.
But thats a gamers pc with the twin cards.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 10:00PM
Keep in mind that, if you get a PC with Vista, you automatically have the rights to XP as well. Microsoft will give you an XP activation key for free and you can either replace Vista with XP or install it in a separate partition which will allow you to run both operating systems on a single PC.
Given the assumption that Vista will eventually be the standard and that Vista & XP are virtually the same price, going this way will prevent you from having to pay for a copy of Vista when it's time to upgrade.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 10:57PM
And ironically, the one they're most determined to bury. What kind of business sense is that? Killing the best product you ever made.
I do have to admit, though. Since I added another gig of RAM to my Vista system, I haven't had a single crash. I was getting them left and right when I first got the machine. They gradually tapered off as I installed updates from MS. The biggest problem that's left, really, is some things are simply incompatible.
Edited by - randomprecision on 2/3/2008 10:59:38 PM
Ohri
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 11:12PM
XPS line? I would say look elsewhere. This is pretty much Dell aping its own subsidiary (Alienware) and charging you more 'cause it's a Dell.
If you've interest in a laptop with similar stats, you may want to take a look at the Gateway P-6831FX. Not perfect and a little over what you were looking to pay ($1250 at Best Buy), but definitely a solid entry, and best of all - very upgradeable. More info on it here. If you'd prefer to customize before purchase, there is also the Gateway P Series.
We got the P-6831FX in the last few days, and so far I'm very impressed: it runs WoW like a champ. The graphics card is currently the fastest on the market (for notebooks) and the 17" screen is awesome (it also has a line out if you want to plug it into a larger monitor). Regarding the touchpad mouse and casing, my HP Notebook is much nicer, but I paid a hell of a lot more money for the HP - and sadly, that's not very upgradeable.
I was seriously considering - i.e. over - an HP Blackbird for later (viva tax refunds!), but after seeing the 6831FX I'm wondering why I'm even considering a desktop. The 6831 can definitely keep step with any behemoth I would end up having to move furniture to accommodate, and it's portable to boot.
Good luck whatever you choose.
 
Ohri
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Posted - Feb 3 2008 : 11:19PM
Because the goal is not to make the best possible product, it's to make the most money. They're not going to be able to cash in if everyone keeps using the same old OS. So every couple of years we get something prettier (not necessarily better) with lots of bells and whistles (gadgets anyone?) and hardware manufacturers everywhere rejoice because 90% of the population has to upgrade parts just to run the OS.
Out of curiosity, what kind of processor do you have?
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 1:11AM
Good info - my wife would like to see us getting a new desktop and would like to stick with XP which is easy with Dell so far. I'd prefer Vista. She put together her possible system at Dell which started with XPS and ended up being $1500 but from what I have gathered her and elsewhere, it's just fancied up a little.
Anyhow, thanks everyone - old system is working fine now. But we are long overdue to get a new desktop. That notebook may come some day too.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 4 2008 : 11:36PM
All I know for sure is that it's a Pentium 4 3 GHz. Beyond that, I'm not sure of the technicals.
willywilly
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Posted - Feb 9 2008 : 6:49PM
After experience like that, I'm surprised that you would want to consider a name brand. You're a living advertisement for custom building your own machine! :)
By the way, mine is probably older than yours. It is custom built. I've had to replace a hard drive and cpu fan, but that's to be expected. Still running... using it right now.
The hardest part, in my opinion, if you are not "into" it, is the myriad of components out there to select from.
You've got to be sure that everything is compatible, and meets your needs, and is quality stuff, not junk.
For someone that is into it, they stay up to date, and could rattle off various parts by just talking to you and asking you want to be able to do.
It is a moving target, because that world changes so fast.
If you don't have a geeky friend that will advise and help
you in exchange for a dozen doughnuts and a case of Jolt cola, then maybe one of those places online would be ok.
One was mentioned earlier in this thread - where you can design your system and have them build it.
I'm sorry that I just don't know a particular one to recommend.
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 15 2008 : 10:46AM
Thanks willywilly, yea, had to replace the HD once here too. If I knew anything I'd do it again, but it hard to pass up $300 off a Dell for an end price of around $900 for an all new package. I don't think it can be done -homebuilt- for that and still get a comparable system. (That Dell package include a 20" flat.)
But the latest is that we stopped by the Apple Store over the weekend - and the tops on the list is the iMac with the 24-inch screen. For the most part I don't have any big software attachment to Windows. I do have a couple of reservations about an all-in-one unit like the iMac.
I'll have to dig up a good ADT Mac thread. Even the reviews on Amazon have been enlightening.



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