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caminitocaminito
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Posted - Dec 9 2013 : 4:50PM
some were so pretty before, but why get rid of natural boobs and implant fakes ones?
small but natural, big but fake.
nicole aniston, etc.........
JigglyBoobs
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Posted - Dec 9 2013 : 6:14PM
Boring!
Joe Mayo
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Posted - Dec 9 2013 : 7:43PM
Nonsense
Dread
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Posted - Dec 9 2013 : 11:33PM
the OP opinion isn't the only opinion nor the right opinion. JUST an opinion.

besides this website does not have the same taste when it comes to the average porn fan.
and before anyone starts, natural girls, fake boob girls, tattooed and pierced girls are all awesome to me, so save your bullshit REAL OR NOTHING retort to me.
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 12:17AM
^ that's the business right there
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TiffanyTyler
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 12:44AM
I am happily going to answer this. While I cannot speak for the other ladies (there are as many reasons for getting implants as there are women who make the choice to get them), I can speak for myself.
As for why I chose to make this very personal choice about what to do with my body. I was 25 years old and had not performed on-camera in over a year. Instead of seeing myself naked all the time and having my body judged (yes, judged… that is what it feels like to constantly have your body discussed, scrutinized, etc), I was looking at my body and judging it and how it made me feel for myself completely covered up in clothing. By that age, I still possessed very tight, tiny A cups. I still loved their shape. I thought they were perfect. Yet, I was constantly having to stuff and push them up in my dresses, and had a very hard time finding flattering, womanly clothes. I wasn't a little girl anymore and wanted to dress like the woman I had become. I considered this decision very very carefully for over a year. I researched doctors for six more months stressing the importance of wanting more size, yet still a natural, body proportionate size without losing the shape I appreciated so much. When I finally decided to make the plunge, I schedule my surgery months in advance to be sure I was doing what I really wanted.
I am happy with my results. I find it very easy to find clothing that I feel sexy and womanly in now. The only thing I didn't consider was the likelihood of finding myself wanting to return to shooting hardcore scenes and opening up my personal choice to all the… discussion, that comes with being a female performer in this industry. YOU were never supposed to see these new additions. That was never the plan. I didn't do them for the industry. I didn't do them for work. I didn't do them for how they'd look on camera or film or even naked at all. I did them for ME.
So while I appreciate that some men prefer women with natural breasts, I think I speak for all the women that have gotten an augmentation in this industry when I say to you, Mr. I Love Natural tits… We sure as fuck didn't get them for you.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 1:37AM
^Bravo.
Bra-fucking-vo.
Dan
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 7:58AM
^
Perhaps the controversy about boob implants arises from the fact that some people got breastfed the natural way, while other people got the hard, artificial bottle, instead of natural breastfeeding.
People, who have been breastfed, will want the woman's breasts to be soft and yielding.
While people who got the hard bottle, instead of the soft breast, probably don't mind the hardness of the boob implants. Such artificial hardness of the breast is similar to the artificial hardness of the bottle that they got in their childhood.
Edited by - Dan on 12/10/2013 8:01:10 AM
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 12:39PM
^What?
That doesn't really make any sense, considering that about 98% of the people watching porn will never actually touch the breast that they're looking at, so it wouldn't really matter whether it's soft or hard. Not to mention that implants have long since come far enough where they can be pretty soft to the touch.
Joe Mayo
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 1:10PM
^^ Bizarre reasoning
Two of my all-time fav pornstars are Courtney Simpson and Holly Body. That should say something about my tastes. I like natural flat-chested girls, large natural breasts, small fake breasts, cartoonishly-large fake breasts, thin girls, thick girls, short girls, tall girls, redheads, blondes, brunettes...
Point is that some girls get implants and its an improvement, some get them and they're not. The skill of the surgeon has a lot to do with it. A sweeping statement that implants are bad, period, really doesn't work.
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 1:58PM
There are those who like them and are many , I'm not among them but neither I am a fanatic , many of those I like have implants.
but the lates 4 winners of the AVN awards were naturals , I mean girls the like of Tori Black or Bobbi Starr, just saying
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 4:31PM
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rlankford
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 5:02PM
That right there is the issue. That our society, mostly through mass advertising, convinces women that breast size has anything to do with being a woman. For me it is way, way down the list when I think about what makes up a women.
In my personal experience, women with fake breasts become even more self-conscious about them after surgery, to the point that the breasts themselves become an accessory and are not a part of their bodies.
IMO there is nothing more attractive than a woman with A or B cups who can take off her top with total confidence. Usually a strong indicator about how she feels about all other aspects of herself, physical or anything other.
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 5:05PM
^
I don't know I was indeed breastfed and I prefer natural , but I don't have any fetish for tits , they are actually the last thing I would watch at in a woman preceded by ass (well shaped not too large) legs, hair (a redhead would always win) , chin and eyes , hell even the ankles come first, I prefer thin ankles
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 5:53PM
Most of us "original tits" guys, and I am one, primarily object to BAD boob-jobs.
If a boob-job has been done first-class, I can happily live with the results (especially if it meant something to the girl).
A first-class boob-job means:
No "shark-attack" tits...
No excessive scarring...
The boobs still "move"...
The size of the end result is appropriate to the girl's body...
Girls, do them right -- or leave them the hell alone.
Please.
Now, I understand that certain genres -- like "slim and stacked" -- cater to the absolute largest fake tits the girl can carry (i.e. before the skin starts to tear itself apart and/or stretch-marks).
Those that are into this are certainly free to make these choices, but I suspect that most of us don't find the freakish large tits all that appealing.
BUT I KNOW THAT SOME DO, AND THAT THIS IS A PROFITABLE NICHE FOR THE RIGHT GIRLS.
So, it's understandable when a girl decides to go "slim and stacked" as a business decision.
But, seriously, there are very few girls that are exploiting this niche profitably.
 
Cerebral Jedi
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Put the crack pipe down and step away from it slowly.
Draxxx
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 9:16PM
I'm pretty sure that most women who get implants are happy or happier with them. At the end of the day that's all that matters. And for all those women who got them or whatever reason and are happy with them it must be annoying or just downright strange to have strangers commenting that you got them for the wrong reasons, are blindly following the heard, have self esteem issues, and/or have "butchered" your body.
TiffanyTyler
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 9:24PM
That right there is part of why I felt the need to give my side. If I had done them for work, I would have actually fucked myself out of a lot of it. Real tits are the new fake tits in the XXX film world, for sure.
TiffanyTyler
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 9:25PM
I DO very much like this post. It is rare to read such a woman-positive posting on an adult forum. :)
TiffanyTyler
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 9:27PM
This, right here. You have understood me and I appreciate it.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 9:33PM
Asa Akira would like a word with you. Mind you, before her it had been quite a few years since someone with implants won. And there's the fact that arguably Best New Starlet is a more coveted award than Female Performer of the Year, and they've had no problem giving that to girls with implants (Kagney Linn Karter, McKenzie Lee).
misspornUSA
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Posted - Dec 11 2013 : 12:21AM
I want to thank TiffanyTyler for her post. What you wrote is something that a lot of us outside of the industry can relate to as well. There's a stereotype about those of us who've had any kind of cosmetic surgery - especially breast augmentation - that we must have done it for men. I'm sure that is the case for some women, but I think a lot of us will find our reasons for the choice reflected in your simple statement "I did them for ME."
I can't recall having ever seen your work, but now I intend to. You've made a fan out of me.
In response to the topic itself, allow me to just say that I like breasts. All sizes, enhanced or not, mine, others, whatever. When I watch porn that outlook remains the same.
Dan
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Posted - Dec 11 2013 : 5:06AM
It's quite easy to see if the woman's breasts are hard or soft simply by observing how they change their shape, if at all, when the woman moves around and when the guy touches her breasts.
When the woman is fully clothed and is wearing a bra, then indeed it's pretty hard to tell if her breasts are hard or soft. But when she is naked, is moving around, and a guy is touching her breasts, then it's pretty obvious how her breasts would feel on your hand, if you were to touch them.
Most guys would imagine the softness or the hardness of the woman's breasts automatically in such a situation, without thinking twice about it.
And making breast implants soft doesn't really solve the whole problem of artificiality. Because natural breasts also stretch to some extent, and if this is absent due to the implant, then this is also pretty obvious just from looking at the woman's breasts, when she moves around.
I can understand that some people might like artificially enhanced breasts, even when this artificiality is obvious and clearly un-natural. But your suggestion, that people can't tell when the lady has breast implants or not from looking at her, is ridiculous. Because breast implants aren't this good yet and probably never will be. There aren't any artificial materials that resemble human tissue in both softness and stretchability.

Edited by - Dan on 12/11/2013 5:09:16 AM

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Posted - Dec 11 2013 : 8:16AM
India Summer also has no implants
and take a good look at some of the most praised Remy Lacroix or Riley Reid for example not to mention the always great Dana DeArmond
But as I said I'm not a fanatic I do like a lot Dana Vespoli with or without implants , I like a lot Julia Ann, still I prefer natural
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Posted - Dec 11 2013 : 2:44PM
Sometimes I'm disappointed when a pornstar I follow gets a boobjob, but that's my fantasy. Our respective fantasies are not worthy of a complaint.
I'm into natural bodies a lot, and some of my favorite pornstars have natural boobs. In fact, there's a lot right now in the industry: Siri, Luna Kitsuen, Lily Love, Keisha Grey, Dillion Carter, Shae Summers, Whitney Westgate, Zoey Nixon, Jade Aspen, Jessica Robbin, Serena Ali, Veruca James, Penny Pax, Mia Malkova, Casey Calvert, India Summer, Samantha Ryan, Nikki Daniels, Maitresse Madeline, Lorelei Lee, Sarah Shevon, Riley Reid, Jennifer White, Asphyxia, Krysta Kaos, Karmen Karma, Alexa Aimes, Stoya, Anikka Albrite, Adriana Chechick, Maddy O'Reilly, Presley Hart, Veronica Rodriguez, Lexi Belle, Ana Foxxx, Dillion Harper, Ash Hollywood, Lily Labeau, Ashley Fires, Kelsi Monroe, Karlie Montana, Cassandra Nix, Marie McCray, Daisy Summers, London Keyes, Jessa Rhodes, Rahyndee, Joanna Angel, Dani Daniels, Dani Jensen, Tiffany Fox, Proxy Paige, Lara Brooks, Wenona, Holly Hanna, Chloe Foster, Emily Benjamins, Layton Benton, Natalia Starr, Chanell Heart, Kimber Day, Jamie Jackson, Chloe Amour, Jodi Taylor, Teal Conrad, Cindy Starfall, Jenna J Ross, Riley Grey, Natalie Lust, Ariana Marie, Bella Nikole Black, Lyla Storm, Jasmine Wolff, Iona Grace, Jessica Ryan, Rilynn Rae, etc. with different shapes, many of them astounding to my eyes, to name "a few" just from the American industry.
There's not exactly "a problem" with natural boobs in terms of quantity and variety. I also enjoy lots of performers with fake tits (Kirsten Price, Kendra Lust, Cherie Deville, Diamond Jackson, Esperanza Gomez, Riley Steele, Louise Jenson and Luna Star are some of my current obsessions).
Edited by - coming soon on 12/11/2013 2:46:27 PM
Edited by - coming soon on 12/11/2013 2:46:47 PM
 
charn
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Posted - Dec 11 2013 : 7:43PM
It's a tradeoff. The culture that made porn legal to shoot in CA includes body modification. One small region contains most of the entertainment industry of the nation. Centralization is convenient, until the cultural differences between regions make the centralized entertainment unsellable.
Edited by - charn on 12/12/2013 12:44:27 AM
SP_Love
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Posted - Dec 12 2013 : 12:42AM
Big boobs with pointy nipples are hot. Real or fake I really don't give a damn.
If you don't like breast implants then stop watching porn.
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Posted - Dec 12 2013 : 4:33PM
^
Or watch natural only
Dan
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Posted - Dec 12 2013 : 7:09PM
^
I can say for sure that tits with implants aren't so good for sucking and touching, because I've had the experience of doing this with a lady who had boob implants. It felt to me almost as if I was touching a plastic doll rather than a real woman.
The look of implanted boobs might be okay. But if you are a hands-on and a mouth-on kind of guy, then there is no way you will like implanted boobs.
Perhaps many porn fans never had the experience of touching a woman's boobs with implants. And that might be why they don't mind it one way or the other. They only see the look, but they have no idea how it would feel, if they were to touch such boobs.
Edited by - Dan on 12/12/2013 8:23:03 PM
Joe Mayo
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Posted - Dec 12 2013 : 7:40PM
^ You may have suckled silicone breasts which are generally harder than saline.
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Posted - Dec 12 2013 : 10:09PM
^ I had a lap-dance once from a girl who must have had a silicone boob-job.
She swung her tits into my face, and I thought I had been hit by a log.
Not pleasant.
mapofhawaii
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 11:47AM
I do not begrudge women the right to have them whatever the reason. That being said, we viewers are allowed to have our preferences and express our opinions. While I completely understand when women do it when they have smallish boobs and want bigger ones for clothing, self-esteem, what have you. What I don't get is when women get them when they already have nice size ones that are not shaped oddly or anything like that. 3 performers come to mind. Jenna Jameson, Lela Starr, and Sativa Rose. They all had beautiful breasts with good size (C or bigger I believe). I am still at a loss as to why those women felt they needed implants. Again, not saying they don't have the right for whatever reason they want, I just don't get it.
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 12:03PM
My nomination for most unnecessary boob-job of all time: Tanya James
Also, when us original tits guys extol the virtues of the girls keeping their original equipment, I, for one, am not doing so to criticize. Rather, it is to encourage future girls to stay original.
That, contrary to what some tell you, fake tits are not necessarily going to help your career (Jenna Haze had a "fairly successful" smaller natural tits career, huh?).
Critics:
Insert _______________ (name of pornstar here), and savagely attack me (because so-and-so's career went viral after her boob-job)
TairyHesticles
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 2:32PM
sativa rose' case is also very tragic. she had wonderful big naturals tits and pouty lips. they were absolutely PERFECT by nature. then she went under the knife and ruined herself. the guy who talked her into these surgeries should be beaten.
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 2:57PM
^
I wouldn't use the word tragic, it's rather offensive this is YOUR opinion
 
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 5:13PM
IIRC, Sativa Rose was because she had a kid and they were starting to sag (and you could see it in her last videos before she did it). Most guys who prefer natural wouldn't have cared about the sag, but it's easily something she would have noticed, and probably wanted to stop.
Edit: Also, I don't think there are very many agents anymore that are actually trying to convince girls to get them to improve their careers. And, just based on my subjective analysis, while implants don't really seem to help a girl's career in most instances, they don't really seem to hurt it very much either, in most instances. The main exception, though, is that girls who primarily worked in teen/barely legal scenes won't be able to get that type of work afterwards. And, honestly, most of the girls that do it once they get into porn, it seems like they were unhappy with their bodies before they ever entered, and porn just gave them enough money to actually do something about it. It isn't really a matter of thinking of it as a purely career decision.
Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 12/13/2013 5:21:59 PM
Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 12/13/2013 5:23:39 PM
shalalin
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Posted - Dec 13 2013 : 5:15PM
^^ and ^ - The mindset of a natural-boobs fundamentalist summed up right there: girl does something for herself that almost certainly made her happier = "has ruined herself".
Edited by - shalalin on 12/13/2013 5:21:53 PM
Dan
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 6:11AM
^
When your relationship with others depends a lot on your looks, then you are bound to ruin your relationship with others by changing your looks for yourself and ignoring what others want to see.
It doesn't make sense to do things for yourself, when you are a show-person, and you depend on showing yourself to others.
In this situation you need to consider the wishes of others and not just your own wishes in order to maintain the relationship.
Draxxx
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 9:31AM
Because the guys who seem to get the most upset about boobjobs really don't care about what the girl wants or why they did it. All they care about is what they like or don't like. When they claim the girl "ruined herself" what they're basicaly saying is "They've ruined my desire to watch her". And that's fine if a person feels that way. If a viewer doesn't like a particular thing that's perefectly reasonable. It's also not a bad thing for fans to express to a pornstar they don't like fake breasts. What I don't like and I'm sure women don't particularly care for are the fans who basically insult the women who get implants (and are happy with them) by telling them how they'ave "ruined" themselves, how they don't know what's best for themselves, how they don't know what's best for their career, how are somehow insecure, how they don't know enough to not follow what others do, etc...All that from people who simply don't like boobjobs and are trying to justify/rationalize their preferences by saying all those things and really could care less about the girl other than the pleasure they get from her.
Dan
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 9:50AM
^
It's possible to say the truth either in an insulting or a respectful way.
But when people get insulted regardless of how you say the truth to them, then these people reject the freedom of speech. It means that they don't want to know the truth, whatever it may be. Which is a bad thing for any relationship with others, including the relationship between porn stars and their porn fans.

Edited by - Dan on 12/14/2013 9:51:28 AM

Dread
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 10:55AM
^ What truth? the truth how "fans" see it? Why is that the "truth'? The truth here is subjective.

Also, Why would it matter to them what and how people say things when those same people rail about the boobjob and saying they won't watch the performers scene anymore?
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Dan
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 11:34AM
^
If I don't like something, and I say this openly, then I speak the truth.
Because I don't try to hide my feelings and pretend to like something that I don't.
It's a big disappointment for many porn fans to lose their favorite porn star under the knife of a plastic surgeon. People are right to complain about something like this, instead of trying to hide their feelings and pretend that everything is okay.

Edited by - Dan on 12/14/2013 11:35:28 AM

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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 12:57PM
not at all you speak your point of view , truth is not a matter of debate , the Sun is hot and this is a truth , you cannot have your truth it's yes or no, never both
ControlFreak
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 4:00PM
Its obvious who gets the short end of the stick on implants: Naturals fans. If a girl starts with implants, that's her brand. No biggie. If she gets implants in the middle of her career, she has changed her brand. There was a revolution in this country when New Coke came out!
The unequal nature of this is in the fact that the only fans that get alienated are naturals fans. If some girls were going from implants to naturals, then the playing field would be equal. Instead, unlike New Coke, we have irreversible brand changes going on that ruin the fantasy for a large proportion of the fan base.
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 4:17PM
^
You forgot the new entries , natural AND hairy and this trend is growing
ControlFreak
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 4:25PM
^
I didn't forget natural and hairy. My point was that the only change that takes place is natural to fake. Since there is no fake to natural transformation, the only fans that get alienated are naturals fans. If they start with implants, that's their brand. If they start with naturals that's their brand.
shalalin
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 4:55PM
Exactly. It's little more than the "adult" (or maybe not) version of a 5-year-old throwing a temper tantrum because his parents took away one of his favourite toys.
ControlFreak
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 5:54PM
^^
I think we all think that some people "ruin" themselves with plastic surgery. And none of us care what Heidi Montag or Michael Jackson (even in 1984 when he only had 1/4 of his eventual plastic surgery) or many others want for themselves in terms of personal preference. We think they are deluded. Granted those are extreme examples, but there is a degree to which we think people are seeing the wrong thing in the mirror. In fact, there is a general rule that says that people can't judge themselves properly in the mirror. Is that rule true? How many skinny girls think they are fat when they look in the mirror?
...Every girl that eventually becomes anorexic.
Joe Mayo
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 6:14PM
^^ I see plenty of these tantrums thrown here but more often it's when "so and so" won't do anal or IR. Those are the babies that need their diapers changed.
ControlFreak
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Posted - Dec 14 2013 : 6:15PM
^^^
now your gonna derail the thread.
Draxxx
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Posted - Dec 15 2013 : 9:07AM
But keep in mind your "truth" starts and stops with the fact that you don't like implants and not much more. All else is your opinion that might have nothing to do with actual reality. If you were put in a room with 10 pornstars that have implants and are happy with them no "truth" you can tel them will make them think they made a mistake or change their minds. You could tell them how they "ruined" their bodies, how they were insecure with their looks, how they gave in to pressure, natural breasts always look better, etc...and none of those "truths" will be "truths" to them. Other than the fact you personally don't like them all other "truths" are debatable.
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