About 6 weeks ago there were all those posts about Belladonna in that ABC-talkshow. I am glad we dont discuss anymore how much porn must change to be a good place (and how everybody must wear condom in porn film), but now I wonder: Did that show drive up the number of girls knocking at porn-talent-scouts doors?
I think it must have, because Belladonna mentioned she was payed 4000$ for a gangbang (big big money!). I think also because just I read in local newspaper about local tv-show on how bad morally Russian porn production in Moscow is. But newspaper-reporter went next day to 1 porn producer and already 15 girls were waiting in front of his office in the freezing cold. Reporter wrote they all wanted earn that money, but also stupid producer did not show up. There is many differences between Russia and USA, I think, but in both places girls most girls want earn more money, I think. This is why I wonder.
Does anybody from inside industry know about ABC-effect? Please tell me. Thank you!
After seeing Bella on PrimeTime Live, I learned a lot more about porn ... from the excellent sites I discovered while trying to find out what the show missed.
I can also say that every time I go to rent it, the Fashionistas is out.
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shameless Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 3:07PM
Sorry, I try not to allow de-railing this discussion before it beginns really: I am not interested what you think about that ABC-show. Or how it effect you.
All I want to know is, whether girls knocking at agents doors in US went up since it was shown? (like in Moscow)
I would think that Bella saying she had Clamidia would deter girls from getting into the business. Way more negatives than positives.
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DenverDon Benevolent
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Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 1:18AM
shameless,
You may not get many responses to this. Your question, by the nature of it, would have to be responded to by just a few of the industry insiders that we have.
The rest of us are scattered around and would have no contact with talent agencies to be able to answer your question.
Having been to the World Modeling office within the past week, and having sat around chatting with Jim South, I can report that he says fewer people have come in and registered in the last few months. He didn't say why he thinks that is, though. On the other hand, Jim South also says that more "managers" have sprung up lately, and he wonders if that is part of what is hurting his business. Overall, I have seen quite a few directors scrambling to find "new" girls for all of the series that promote them. That seems to indicate that there might not be as much new talent as is needed to go around.
Mind you, this is just what I have heard and what I seem to be seeing, it might not be the actual situation at all. If it is true, it may or may not have anything to do with the Primetime interview at all.
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Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 2:03PM
I agree with Kimi about less people at Jim South's office. But I don't think it really has much to do with the TV show.
There ARE a lot more independent agents. Plus, the convention in Las Vegas in January offers girls a great opportunity to book jobs directly with the companies without having to find an agent right away.
And directors are "scrambling" to find new talent partly because there are SO many directors out there that there would have to be a lot more new girls than before to make it seem like there's as many girls as before.
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Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 1:11AM
Thank you so much for trying to answer that difficult question. I hope a few more insiders will answer in future.
Now, especially I want to thank DenverDon for his support keeping this topic straight.
To me there is an incredible urge in people to muse about Belladonna, that ABC-show and the so-so-bad side-effects or porn. As an outsider I was really most shocked by those many threads about that show and Belladonna in it.
Maybe in Russia we are more realistic about things, especially earning money. Such a show I am almost certain would have deterred 10 girls, but driven 100 into the agents hands, I guess (I have not seen the original show, though, just read about it).
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DenverDon Benevolent
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Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 1:24AM
shameless,
I actually didn't watch the show either, and you're welcome.
Hope you get more responses, because I'm curious now too.
i'm sorry denver. the show affected be because after watching that segment, i learned a few things about porn in my opinion. It doesent seem easy!
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Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 2:12PM
lkdg2832,
That's okay, it's just after shameless reiterated that he wanted a specific answer to a specific question, I felt that the thrust of the thread should be limited.
As I said, I didn't watch the segment on ABC.
However in thinking further on it, it could be a very interesting subject if someone wanted to open a new thread for discussion on "Belladonna and ABC show, how did it affect you?".
Just keep it nice. Diversity of opinions in a discussion is good and healthy. Attacking someone is counter-productive.
(lkdg2832, after reading my own post I wanted to add - this was not meant to say you attacked anyone because you didn't, but a general statement about creating threads and posting in them.)
I imagine that there was no immediately discernable effect of that ABC tv show on porn recruiting. First of all, I don't imagine that many attractive young American women are sitting around watching a news magazine show at 10 pm on a Thursday night, so how would they even know about it? And you can't compare the situation in the US where even paupers live well, with the situation in Russia where dozens of desperately poor women might be coaxed into doing their first porno after hearing about such a potential opportunity in their home city on a local newscast.
Jim Gunn http://www.JimGunn.com
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Posted - Mar 12 2003 : 9:33AM
Thank you very much for your answer, Jim. I was afraid number might have gone down a bit, because of <American Emotional Overreaction>.
You very well understand Russian situation. Better than many Americans. Is there hope you will once open local office in our capital here?