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Pete Zaface
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Posted - Jul 4 2019 : 6:06PM
Verisimilitude -- the appearance of being true or real

I was wondering today about porn scenes where the "fifth wall," if you will -- the separatio between "we're filming a porn video" and the real world breaks down.

Most "public porn" isn't really public. Legal risk pretty much means that what's billed as public porn isn't in public where people do see it; it's still two people fucking in an area where people might see it, and, if someone did, you'd have a pretty rapid case of coitus interruptus.

The "In the VIP" series tries for verisimilitude but fails, probably largely for the same reason, and also because the camera work is so tight that you don't get a feel that what's happening is anything other than a group of performers thrown into a room and having sex.

Some of the college-themed videos -- I've seen a very few where a couple of people, usually porn stars, are fucking in front of a roomful of people -- work. The ones that take place in dorm rooms usually aren't as good, and the subset of those where people leave the room and go somewhere else to fuck are always fails.

Bangbus doesn't work anymore because almost all the girls are porn stars, and it's beyond belief that some guys in a van that's been driving around Miami for 20 years are still able to pick up random girls anyway.

Here are a few that did or do work:

Bangbros had an episode where Caroline Daily gave a blowjob to "the new guy" at work. Probably didn't really happened quite exactly that way, but it was real enough that I could buy into it.

I've mentioned before scene -- Anabolic, or Diabolic, IiRC -- wherein a pizza was ordered for a porn set, and the delivery guy got blown by a starlet. It worked, whether real or staged, because the guy wasn't a male performer, and they took care to mask the logo on his shirt.

DancingBear. Almost enough said. I yearn for its return and wish there would be a Dancing Bearette in strip clubs. I'm still astounded that so many women would participate in those videos, even some they might have been dancers or ....

Midnight Prowl: Yeah, I could buy into the scenes as they were presented: A porn star picking up and fucking "random" guys (or at least someone other than the usual porn guys).

GirslDoPorn -- a stretch, but I put it here because it's the closest thing to a true amateur site -- works because most of the models are one-and-dones. Amateur Allure doesn't anymore because most of the girls have already had at least a few, if not many, scenes out for other companies. (I don't like ExCoGo or BRCC mainly because most of the girls look like strippers you'd in a third-rate club in Wichita Falls.)

Can anyone comment on any similar scenes where the barriers between porn and the real world break down like that?

Edited by - Pete Zaface on Jul 4 2019

evilpineapples
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Posted - Jul 4 2019 : 6:19PM
We all know porn is a set-up. As far as I'm concerned, the scenarios are never believable. The important thing for me is that the chemistry between the performers feels real. That's when the barriers break down and I'm able to buy into what I'm watching.
upsux
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Posted - Jul 4 2019 : 7:28PM
I think all the "fake" incest scenes are real, they always make sure to mention that they're a "step-x" to get around local laws.
amazing_blue
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Posted - Jul 4 2019 : 9:15PM
I remember a scene on I believe 8th Street Latinas from 10-15 years ago where the male performer went limp because he had been friends with the female talent when they were small children. The cameraman then stepped in to finish banging her.
Draxxx
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Posted - Jul 5 2019 : 12:20AM
Even though the sex between pornstars is real it often doesn't look like "real" sex because in my mind typical porn sex looks to slick and choreographed. Real sex between two people is sometimes awkward and the positions are more natural. The most real looking sex usually comes from amateur shoots, celeb sex tapes, and the girls who film themselves having sex on a cell phone....which are all basically people having sex. Porn sex is basically putting on a performance. In many ways "real' sex looks dull in comparison. You don't have the people acting and overacting to sell the sex. You don't have a list of positions to be done. You don't have perfect lighting. You don't have perfect camera angles. I think porn could easily duplicate "real" sex but they don't want to because performance sex is more theatrical. As strange as it might sound the fake sex in some movies looks more like real sex than porn sex does.
 
captainxx-2008
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Posted - Jul 5 2019 : 1:50AM
very interresting topic, thanks.

Actually, we get that no "real" scenarios are, indeed, real. And it's difficult to create the intention or "real", as a main example are the sites with the scenario that a random girl would make some hard porn gonzo for a couple of hundred bucks (or some exotic money) : or it will be with a establish pornstar or starlet that was seen in a couple (or a dozen) of scenes before ; Or the scenario is not tight enough, the man offer like a bit of money, the girl say a clear and definitive NO, then for more money it's a definitive YES and she will do (mostly) all - in this kind of scenario it should be way more progressive. Publicpickups did it a few years ago, now it's fast as fuck, so the illusion of Real is broken.

Another thing could be the spoof, or pastiche : we know we make fake real, and we turn that as a comedy : rodney moore did that very well many years ago.

Unfortunately, as for the "illusion of real" or the "pastiche of real", both these genres are nowadays rushed up : a story has a beginning, middle and end - and today the beginning is within the main ide of the scene, the midle and end is just regular gonzo with a pornstar or starlet...

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Posted - Jul 5 2019 : 1:35PM
All porn is fake. But we live in a holographic universe and time is an illusion so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
evilpineapples
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^ TETRAHEDRONS, MAN!
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Jul 6 2019 : 4:49AM
This is a weird take to me, mostly because if we're gonna talk about realistic, most of the women who would legitimately respond to ads or inquiries about shooting porn out of the blue for one time only would look like "strippers you'd find in Witchita Falls".

This is kinda beyond the point a little, but to me, the basic issue of considering Girls Do Porn realistic (and honestly, why they are in the legal hot water that they're in right now) is that it's not "realistic" to get different women who are otherwise uninterested in shooting adult videos as a career to shoot a porn scene with you as often as their update schedule requires. Which is why most other sites within that niche do some mix of a.) end up with performers that sometimes aren't as conventionally attractive [ExCoGi], b.) are shooting professional performers (or women with immediate plans to become professional performers) [Amateur Allure, NetVideoGirls/CastingCouchHD], or c.) Straight up lying to women to get them to shoot with them [GDP, BRCC].

BangersAndMash
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Posted - Jul 7 2019 : 2:53AM
What does that even mean? You think fake incest are real?
upsux
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Posted - Jul 7 2019 : 3:05AM
'Twas a joke, those scenes hit you over the head every time by shoe horning in the 'step-' part of the relationship before the fun starts.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Jul 7 2019 : 2:49PM
I think we've gotten a little off track. I'm looking for sites and scenes where I can believe the scene might have actually unfolded like that in real life.

Almost anything in front of an audience where the audience is too big to consist entirely of members of the porn world would qualify: Dancingbear, some CollegeFuckFest (Tori Black's, for example), the Carolina Dailey and pizza guy scenes.

I threw the references to AmateurAllure and GDP in there because AA simplly isn't believable anymore, for the most part, while GDP is, at least in terms of finding attractive one-timers, true amateurs.




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