hey guys. did a quick search couldnt find anything, if this has been done to death mods, feel free to move it to another thread as a sufferer of depression, i sometimes use viagra to help out. it works wonders. i dont use it everytime but when i do 99% of the time it does the job and more. it is however very expensive here in Aus, so i buy online through canadian "pharmacies" im just wondering what others find the best pill or gel or whatever? and where they get it if online. here in aus its $80aus for a pack of 4...thats just wayyy too much. i currently have 100mg viagra, not sure if its genuine or a generic but works great. how do the other pils stack up? value wise and performance?
I have used Viagra and Cialis. I've tried both 50mg and 100mg Viagra. I've also tried 10mg and 20mg. The net for me is 50mg Viagra works well for me. For comparison - Viagra - more firm erection for much shorter time frame - 2 to 3 hours. Cialis 10mg works for me - not as firm (80% or so of Viagra - but enough) and lasts for the advertised 36 hours. I have had success buying on line from from a couple of online sites that sell generic brands from India. I think last time I bought both generic Viagra and generic Cialis from around US$350 for maybe 100 of each (200 total). They work great. Good thing is a don't think I'll be having to buy anything else for quite a while!
for me it depends on my depression... when its affecting me at all i need to use viagra. the mind just doesnt work right while depressed. you are right about the time frame,. about 3 hours for with viagra, so if i try and be subtle and have it early sometimes its not working great by the time sex happens. a longer time frame would be nice. From buying online i get 100 for the price that would normally cost me for 4 packs (16) in a pharmacy...so there is no way im paying that extra money. (not sure if this is ok with moderators or not) but for anyone who buys online, can you tell me which ones you use and cost? i dont remember who i used last time as it was 2007 and get so many spam emails i cant remember which is the place i got it from i know it was a canadian online pharmacy tho
XLpharmacy i clicked on one of my many spam emails and it came to this site, tried logging in and turns out it was the place i went through last time 300 viagra for $$298 aus then get a discount for loyalty customer and bonus added pills on top great value checked several sites this was the cheapest by far wanted to try other types of pills this time but the value was so great i couldnt turn it down
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Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 10:50AM
If you're buying your generic Viagra over the internet and it's coming from India or China, you can bet it's fake. It's one of the biggest scams going.
^This is easy to get hold of my way without internet shopping it's Sildenafil citrate from India 100mg works out at $3.00 each. I don't internet shop for this product hardly heard a good word, just look at internet site reviews they tell there own story, maybe a thread should be started that offers members to put forward reliable internet sources that sell this stuff.
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Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 5:23PM
^^^ That's they say it is,but have you ever had it tested? I would say if it appears it is working for a guy, go for it. I would still say it is a placebo effect.
trout bum this is my 3rd time buying from this site can say 100% they are the real deal i get the generic version of viagra, same thing just cheaper taste exactly the same...if you have ever cut one in half you will recognise that horrible taste its exactly the same and can it works as well as the ones from a normal pharmacy thats all here-say that they are fake. who would buy through them a 2nd time if it wasnt real, then soon enough they would close having no customers. makes no sense whatsoever. yes, it was scary the first time giving money over the net to some overseas pharmacy but i was suprised within 2 weeks i had delivered to my door exactly what i ordered! im more than happy plus the value for money cant be beat... 20 times cheaper than buying through a pharmacy! hell yes
I am not endorsing anyone, but I did use the website mentioned and was satisfied. I purposefully used a 'safe' credit card and ordered 'express.' If I hadn't receive my product in 30 days I would just haved disputed the charge with my CC company and wouldn't lose anything except a litle time and patience. And yes - the products are 'generic' and I do believe they came from India. They work as advertised for me. As always - buyer beware - but I've been happy.
yes they are generic but they are exactly the same as the name brand viagra just not paying for the name must say everytime ive used this site the delivery time has suprised me they say ships within 48 hours and takes 10 business days, so 2.5 weeks but always been a bit quicker im more than happy with them and will keep using them for sure
Lol, 100% not a placebo effect, the product is 'eriacta ranbaxy sildenafil citrate', and it's powerful stuff. The next day ten hours after taking it when you don't want an erection it is still ready to go, if you manage to get this stuff avoid sexual thoughts the day after in places you don't want unwanted attention. I'm not sure whether you have taken these kind of products and 100mg at that, but it is pretty obvious whether the product works or not there are no mind tricks here, I was given some kamagara jelly 20mg and was told this stuff was great from various friends, I took it and the effect was slight to say the least not a product I would ever buy, I wanted it to work but it had very little impact on what I can achieve anyway, no will power in the world could get this product to work as the sildenafil citrate does. I don't take this stuff all the time and I don't need it either it's for special occasions such as when me and my girlie want a marathon sex session, it takes away the delay period between cumming and waiting to get hard again and makes sex a long continuous occasion with a rock hard cock throughout.
^Can't be bothered to edit the 'unwanted' part of that post.
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Posted - Jul 30 2011 : 6:48PM
If the stories you have heard about how bad meth labs are, You can imagine what the labs in India or China that cook up generic drugs look like. They are mostly like made in some dirty back alley slum and if you don't, I'm selling 100% pure gold for $100 an ounce. Are interested????
Lol, Ranbaxy is a 50 year old established pharmaceutical company worth $7.55 billion and is India's largest generic drug producer and exporter. It's laboratory's [ invalid url ]been inspected and no they do not make there products in back street slums or dirty back alleys as you stereo typically alluded to. They are also launching LIPITOR ® (atorvastatin calcium) in the US market in November of this year a product patented by Pfizer which is due to expire. '100% pure gold for $100 an ounce', now that's cheap and I would be interested however I don't know the source for this gold and opt not to trust, it's nothing personal so please don't take offense.
^Was that XL pharmacy? do you have a link to the website you use? I know you have posted some details already on this thread but would like to be sure thanks. :)
http://www.xlpharmacy.com/ put my credit card through, had a phone call 5 min later to confirm it was me using the card from one of their support team....then 7 days later it arrived. india to australia, pretty decent.
What you have to watch out for are the online pharmacies that cell Pfizer and Lily, etc. products in their 'original' packaging. These are typically fakes. If you buy generics, well, you're getting product by Cipla and Ajanta and the like, which are top tier Indian pharmaceuticals that sell US FDA approved meds in the US as well. No one makes fakes of generics, there's not enough profit it in. What they make fakes of are the brand names. Those are likely the shoddy backroom labs mentioned. I won't mention the site by name, but I source by generic Tadalafil and Sildenafil at a site that accepts Paypal, I don't even have to provide my credit card info that way. Google: Sildenafil $52.70 to find them.
By the way, I have never tried Levitra, but my local Wal Mart has them for $9 each. Also, can you buy the generic versions from your local pharmacies, or only from overseas?
hard to say for the us, but here in aus they ask you whenever you fill out a prescription if you want the cheaper generic version... however im pretty sure most pharmacies if not all only have the pfizer version. not that i would go to a pharmacy anymore when i can get them online for 20 times cheaper
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Posted - Aug 7 2011 : 10:11AM
Ok, there may be a few off shore pharmacies that my sell generic Viagra, but I still maintain that the majority of these dealers that sell stuff that is totally fake or the dosage they advertise is inaccurate.
Many of the generics sold in the US come from India or China. I'd be more afraid of the generics that come from Jersey.
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Posted - Aug 7 2011 : 3:00PM
Thought I'd pass this on' Generic Viagra, Generic Cialis and Generic Levitra are not FDA-approved, are illegal and may be harmful to your health. These medications in generic form are illegal to buy and sell in the United States . Many of these generics are created in unsanitary, make-shift labs and over half of these medications tested are cited for being unsafe for consumption and harmful to your health. The manufactures of these three products, Pfizer, Lilly/ICOS and Bayer/GlaxoSmithKline work in conjunction with the United States Federal Drug Agency (FDA) and the United States Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) to bring awareness to the public and prosecute the makers and importers of generic Viagra, generic Cialis and generic Levitra. Beware of fake ED Meds sold online. These drugs: Are not approved by the US Food and Drug Admin istration (FDA) Are considered illegal by the US government and are subject to seizure Can contain unknown and potentially harmful substances Can be made in developing countries like India , China , Mexico , Belize and are manufactured in unregulated factories Are not proven to be safe or effective Potential Health Risks With Imported Drugs Quality assurance concerns. Medications that have not been approved for sale in the United States may not have been manufactured under quality assurance procedures designed to produce a safe and effective product. Counterfeit potential. Some imported medications--even those that bear the name of a U.S.-approved product--may, in fact, be counterfeit versions that are unsafe or even completely ineffective. Presence of untested substances. Imported medications and their ingredients, although legal in foreign countries, may not have been evaluated for safety and effectiveness in the United States . These products may be addictive or contain other dangerous substances. Risks of unsupervised use. Some medications, whether imported or not, are unsafe when taken without adequate medical supervision. You may need a medical evaluation to ensure that the medication is appropriate for you and your condition. Or, you may require medical checkups to make sure that you are taking the drug properly, it is working for you, and that you are not having unexpected or life-threatening side effects. Labeling and language issues. The medication's label, including instructions for use and possible side effects, may be in a language you do not understand or may make medical claims and suggest specific uses that have not been adequately evaluated for safety and effectiveness. Lack of information. An imported medication may lack information that would permit you to be promptly and correctly treated for a dangerous side effect caused by the drug. Laws Broken by the Makers, Sellers and Buyers of Illegal Generic Medications Copyright laws Importation Laws FDA Packaging and Labeling Laws Public Health Laws Federal and State Laws Anti-Counterfeiting Laws Here are some signs to help you identify illegal "generic VIAGRA": The site sells "generic VIAGRA" or "generic sildenafil citrate" The site claims to sell a cheaper form of VIAGRA The price is cheaper than VIAGRA, by as much as 70% The site claims the drug is made to World Health Organization (WHO) standards, which may be a lie. The WHO does not review or approve any medication The drug is sold as a pill, but looks different from VIAGRA's normal color, shape and imprinting Delivery times may be extended (4 -21 days) due to product being shipped into the United States from a foreign country Shipping is initiated using a foreign country postal service to minimize chances of detection and seizure when entering United States
^The US is the only country not to approve this product approved in countries like Australia and the UK however the US used to and is currently reconsidering, what's the source you lifted this from? It would be useful to review it before accepting your post as truth.
yes, im pretty sure its only the US who are against generic brands. i believe its due to the influence of big drug companies such as pfizer here in australia, the pharmacies pretty much encourage the generic versions of pharmacuticals to be allowed to be sold in australia they have to have the same standards as the original brand name drugs, so not exactly sure where that information is from, seems like propaganda from the large companies trying to maximise their profit all i can say is whenever i go to the pharmacy for anything from anti biotics to anti depressants i choose the generic version. same exact chemical structure but cheaper. also, for those who say its not the same and its made in some dodgy factory...trust me its the exact same pill. side by side you would not know the difference, tastes the same looks the same, most importantly it does the exact same affect on you. but much cheaper dont mean to sound like im working for the generic companies, i just go for whatever is good value. if it wasnt as good as the brand name, i wouldnt be on my 3rd order from xlpharmacy. like i said, here in australia the pharmacy asks when you hand in a prescription if you want the generic/cheaper version...which most people take.
Yeah, started out using the brand name myself and switched to generics. With a little research (no need to believe any one person or even group of folks on the web), you come to find out that for most meds, even ED meds, these companies producing generics ALSO sell other drugs that are also FDA approved. The image of some dark factory that is producing bootleg LV bags by day and fake Viagra by night is just some more clever scaremongering by vested interests. And I say that knowing full well that my stock portfolio is heavily loaded with pharmaceutical firms. And it's hardly a well kept secret that while they like to 'market' the image that most of the profit margin gets thrown into R&D.... in reality most of it is funneled to the marketing department of 'big pharma.' (substitute any major drug label here) Just keeping it real.... :)
Had to follow up. Thanks to angryass drummer's suggestion ordered the generic viagara from xlonline. It is indeed the real deal. Took about 2 weeks to deliver to US with express delivery, and they did do the phone call confirming my order, but it's legit. Only bummer was their website was unable to allow me to create an account, and thus unable to get bonus on next order. But huge price difference.
i think by ordering the first lot, when you enter your details the next time you get the discount thats how it worked for me and yes, its legit, not sure why people dont believe that. mine took less that 10 days delivery to australia. 300 pills which ends up being 20times cheaper than buying through pharmacy. works exactly the same as name brand viagra same taste same smell same side effects ( for me...i have several side effects that come on when it starts to work....warm face & nose becomes congested/blocked )this happens with both name brand viagra and the generic i buy
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Posted - Sep 7 2011 : 12:24AM
^^^ You order 300 Viagra tabs at a time?? You must eat them like candy.
Guys, quit the fake viagra pills, they are not only fake, but you have no idea of what they are actually made of. If you want similar to viagra effect, but more natural, start ressearching a bit on foods & supplements that increase blood flow to your genital area (and the body in general) Lots of things do this, and I have personally had incredible effects by simply drinking ginger juice before sex. Yes, peel the ginger root, chop it in small pieces, boil for 15 min. under medium heat, and add it to a nice cup of tea with honey. Works wonders. As for supplements, get yourself some L-Arginine or Citruline Malate, both increase bloodflow significantly, and if you take notice and actually take a look at the labels of all those "dick pills" out there, you'll see that one of the main ingredients in those pills, is L-Arginine. I don't know if I'm allowed to link here, but just search for it on google, you can make your own blood-flow pills for a fraction of the cost these "fraud companies" demand. I'm said "fraud" because they often promise they will grow your dick several cm/inches, while the reality is that you just increase bloodflow and therefore you're dick gets bigger. Nothing beats a good diet, but the above amino acids will get you as hard as any viagra pill, it's all about the dosage, and which other compounds you combine with it. Most companies have 5-10 different compounds in their pills, and if you use your brain, you can easily get these compounds in bulk and make your own. Just a friendly tip, I hate that so many people are getting ripped off because of ignorance.
they are not fake they are just generic brand have you not read the other posts? they are made by the same company that makes medication of all sorts that you will find in your local pharmacy and yes, i got 300 at a time cause its lasts years and years and much cheaper than way worked out about.85cents each as opposed to $20 each at a pharmacy
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Posted - Sep 7 2011 : 11:27PM
Sorry,but Viagra has a shelf life of up to two years from date manufacture...if keep in clean, dry, dark place. Also check this out. 80% of Generic Drugs Made Abroad In Poorly Inspected Factories Wednesday, 17 August 2011 The New York Times recently reported that, "More than 80% of the active ingredients for drugs sold in the United States are made abroad," often in rarely inspected plants in Mexico, China, India, and other countries. So you go right ahead and trust these off shore pharmacies, I'll pay the extra and not take the chance that I may be poisoning myself.
Part truth, part propaganda. There are probably small no name pharmaceutical firms out there. But then just Google: Ajanta, Cipla, or Ranbaxy among others and you'll find that they are indeed top tier multinational pharma giants that are US FDA approved, have a signficant presence in the US AND also deal in generic tadalafil, sildenafil, vardenafil, etc.
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Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 9:02AM
Go ahead and trust the Chinese. If they will use lead paint in children's toys or high concentrations of sulfuric acid in sheetrock that exported to the US, I'm just saying that I certainly not going to trust how they manufacture their ED drugs.
lol thats hilarious everything is made in china these days....i bet over half what is in your car, house, boat etc are from china. even non chinese brands buy parts from china ie GM motors. if you want to pay all the extra money more to have the exact same thing go ahead, no skin of my nose either way. i was just commenting on my good service i got online and good value
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how can you say that when you havent had it? you cant comment on something you have no experience with whatsoever do you happen to know where the name brand Viagra is made? pfizer isnt just based in america...like most american companies they find it cheaper to make it overseas. when it comes down to it, its the same exact ingredients in both pills so how is one lesser than the other? but like i said, no skin of my nose. if you want to pay more for the exact same thing then thats your choice...but unless you have purchased the generic ones through the same comment then you cant really comment on quality as you have no idea
Chances are that if you ever have to go to a hospital in the US, you'll run into Indian generics (Chinese generics, less so, they aren't really up there yet with the Indians in terms of US market penetration). Hospital admins typically don't have these hangups about 'buy American' because they have more important things to do like running their hospitals within their budget.... and price wise, Indian generics typically win hands down. And no, they don't ask patients.... "so do you have a preference where your meds are made?" LOL! That said, I totally understand the piece of mind of going with brand names as well. There often is a difference in quality in a lot of different products. If it were a choice between my Audi and a Tata (India) or Chery (China) automobile, it's no question which is the better built car. Same thing for a Sony sound system or one by Haier (China). Pharma however is deceptively low tech after the r & d is taken out of the picture. Once the formulas are made, just about anything can be made for a penny a pill (usually less). The US pharma giants do their best to keep Americans in the dark about this. Even with their own products, they are often priced much less overseas. :) Edited by - amadeo on 9/8/2011 11:51:36 PM
sorry but comparing cars made in india and medications......too long a bow to draw im afraid its not the same thing medication is a chemical compound of several ingredients to make a final product..whether that is made in america or india its the same chemicals. also where do you think the chemicals come from even if they are made in america? generally india and asia. so there is no difference whatsoever. that is very different to cars where they use different parts, workmanship is more important, how long they have been making them, etc etc talk about comparing apples with oranges here in saying that tho, im am over this... if you want to buy name brand do it (just remember just cause its name brand doesnt even mean its made in america, pfizer has offices all over the world for example.) pfizer is a massive company, id be suprised if much of what they make is from america. i know the pfizer products we get here in australia certainly arent from the US..thank god or they would be even dearer still
The point regarding cars wasn't about the quality of the pharma product per se, it was that I understood the peace of mind that comes with brand names and how people come to such conclusions regarding differences in quality. I totally stick with generics for my fun. :) Edited by - amadeo on 9/15/2011 10:16:00 AM
