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| cumfiesta2107 Deactivated User 294 Posts 6/06 |  Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 5:53AM[Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 9:18AM My argument continues to be that sales would improve if many porn makers made an effort to put out a product more in line with consumer prefernce for more carefully made porn and with fewer of the common annoyances they complain of in this forum. Somewhat off topic, perhaps, but I think the porn business is rather typical of business in general. When the economy dips or the market is shaky, the tendency of business is to downsize, lay off and reduce expense to protect profit. Many businesses downsize themselves right out of existence. This tends only to make a bad situation worse. But in every downturn, there are also winners who see sinking revenue not as a call to run and hide, but as proof that they need to change, to put out a new or better product or service -- to work more, not less. Such companies tend to thrive even as their competition suffers, because they are focused on innovation and giving their customers what they want. Business should be about providing products and services that people will buy. Instead, they have become about bookkeeping and protecting their money. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 9:42AM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 12:42PM Click to expand [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 12:46PM [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 2:02PM Most porn girls that get fake tits, even if I liked them before, I usually find that I like them even more with the enhancement. That said, there are some girls for whom it's a huge mistake. Lela Star and Sativa Rose immediately come to mind. Shyla Stylez I'm somewhat ambivalent on, but I think the big problem there is that she just got them too big, which caused her shoulders to broaden and make her look less feminine. I think Mackenzie Pierce looks great with hers. Hillary Scott is another one that just looks really great. I also really like the new-look Jenny Hendrix. [Link] |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 3:56PM With that being said there are horrible boob jobs out there that i don't like and makes me not watch scenes. Rather not name names though out of respect. ----Dread---- [Link] |
| Anadin Member 307 Posts 4/05 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 6:34PM [Link] |
| joachim Senior Member 03 12 15 16 18 04 07 13 18 2285 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 10:48PM [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 11:06PM Most recent porn of her shows her stick-thin, but all-natural. Here's hoping the intervening months have kept her tits natural, and supplied her with a food source. [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 11:37PM edit: spelling. Edited by - chodemasterj on 12/6/2009 11:38:25 PM [Link] |
| Captain Tight Pants Member 337 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 7 2009 : 12:58AM I think that was me. That was an ooops. I was thinking of someone else. I can picture her but I can't remember her name. [Link] |
| Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 6:48PM Who is with me!?! Come on! (runs out stage left) [Link] |
| ZeroCool007 Senior Member I'm going to stab you in the throat with a spork!!! 1048 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 8:17PM [Link] |
| JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 8:36PM Although their self-reasons are affected by their perception of what men wants. And that perception is quite strong. At the same time it is mostly a myth, as proved by what people say here on ADT. So it's not just for themselves, they really believe it makes a huge difference for how men perceive them. Most men will _notice_ bigger breasts. But it's not something that makes or breaks an impression of a girl. And it's only that very first impression. I love breasts of all sizes, but I can never remember if a girl had huge knockers unless she showed some big cleavage. So there's at least proof of one guy that those $$ would be wasted on. I don't want to criticize girls who choose to do it after a careful consideration. If it makes them happy, that is a good thing. But if their issues could be solved in a different way, I'd really prefer that. To me, 8 of 10 boob jobs look plain bad. Unless the tits are grossly misshapen, I prefer them natural no matter how small they are. [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 9:46PM [Link] |
| Beethoven Deactivated User 317 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 10:14PM [Link] |
| cumfiesta2107 Deactivated User 294 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Dec 9 2009 : 10:39PM [Link] |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 10 2009 : 9:35PM Love is nothing but lust misspelled. [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Dec 11 2009 : 3:13AM [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 11 2009 : 7:48AM And we're talking aesthetics and erroneous notions of public taste, here. Hopefully, fake tits would be a non-issue in a relationship. If it isn't, that wouldn't be much of a relationship. [Link] |
| cocacoladdict Member 359 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 11 2009 : 1:19PM One aspect of this debate which I think needs clarifying is that there are more than one type of negative reaction to fake boobs. You can hate them because you had a fav star with litle boobs who's appearance is now just so altered it displeases you because you actually liked the little boobs. If Morgan March ever got a big pair of add-ons I'd cry You can hate them because you just see girls you like who have boob jobs that have obvious scars..or that awful shaking bag outline thing going on or other aspects that are just a case of ugliness. Jeveveve Joli's are a case in point where from one angle they are really nice and enhance her overall appearance but once she is having sex in certain positions and they start shaking you go 'oh...ew'. Or you can just hate the concept no matter how well done they are. [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Dec 11 2009 : 2:08PM [Link] |
| joachim Senior Member 03 12 15 16 18 04 07 13 18 2285 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 11 2009 : 7:58PM [Link] |
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| madison_ivy Member Shit happens when u party naked! 73 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 2:47AM So if you still don't like it well I did it for me, and I love them. xoxoxo Madison Ivy [Link] |
| satchman23 Studios - do not send screeners to this person. 1906 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 6:34AM Madison you should also post that post with the link to your new boobs over in your thread in Star Crossed. Edited by - satchman23 on 12/12/2009 6:37:05 AM [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 9:43AM But the dominant opinion in this and similar threads seems to be my own: that boob jobs generally detract from the allure of girls in the porn industry. If you are not of that opinion, also fine. My own concern is that girls who want to have porn careers believe or, worse, are convinced by some agent or producer who doesn't know his ass from his elbow that a boob job is necessary to their success. I would hope that this and similar discussions here convince them to at least wait and see if they really want or need to deface their natural beauty with fake tits. [Link] |
| cumfiesta2107 Deactivated User 294 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 4:40PM [Link] |
| a9nostic Senior Member 1056 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 11:09PM [Link] |
| Mr Right Member 56 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 3:34AM Winning internet debates is my favourite pastime Edited by - Mr Right on 12/13/2009 3:35:47 AM [Link] |
| madison_ivy Member Shit happens when u party naked! 73 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 4:44AM xoxox Merry Christmas Madison cum eating whore Ivy ;) [Link] |
| cumfiesta2107 Deactivated User 294 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 11:56AM [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 12:44PM Some advice: It's okay to have a fat ego. It's probably not smart to advertise that you do, however. People tend to dismiss you as a conceited jerk without bothering to find out if you really are. Kind of like porn makers who think they know what they're doing. I never said I KNEW better, but if you can't shoot down what I said, just pretend I said something you CAN shoot down. What I DID say is that the formula, fake tits = most profits, is a groundless assumption not supported by a consensus on ADT. You point to some guy, presumably in the trade, pontificating that boob jobs sell more movies, and that's your proof? All that proves is what I've been saying, that producers, etc. make the classic mistake that correlation is the same as cause and effect. Most girls in porn have boob jobs; porn sells, therefore boob jobs sell porn. From the day surgical implants were available, the assumption became that bigger tits made more money. When that assumption has been challenged, as it has been in this forum several times, the industry 'insiders' that bother to respond, say, 'no, no, that's not true. We're in the business. We know best. Or, as in this case 'ADT users are a seperate species of viewer. You don't represent everybody.' The first answer ir pure arrogance. The second is at best also an evasion and an insult. ADT has no requirement that would distinquish its porn viewers from those who don't sign up (unless you contend and can prove that most porn viewers are illiterate and/or have no access to the 'net). The porn 'industry' keeps, shares, and publicizes few sales figures, does no sales and marketing studies that I am aware of, and acts generally, it seems, as though their business was still a criminal enterprise. In such conditions, it is impossible to have empirical objective data about what sells and what doesn't, And you wouldn't know a representative sample of porn buyers if you fell over one. Compile real sales figures. Do girls with fake boobs sell more than girls with real boobs? Apply statistical rigor, manage variables properly, and then see for real if fake boobs are all that profitable. Failing that, if you want to dismiss the anecdotal evidence of ADT, take your own poll, a real one, using a professional pollster who can compile a real representative sample. Then present your data. Otherwise, you're just guessing. Pornland won't do any of that, I know. Unless they go belly up or go to prison, producers think they have all the answers and most, like businessmen everywhere, are scared of rocking the boat, so won't change. [Link] |
| dexington steele Member 816 Posts 12/07 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 12:58PM Tori Black's tits are real and they're spectacular! In a recent forum post, she mentioned that they're going to stay that way, too. Let's hope that the case. But, then again, we have no control over these situations. If we think we do, we're nuts. [Link] |
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| Mr Right Member 56 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 1:11PM Just to let you know, Christian is a performer who, according to IAFD, has performed in 513 scenes over the last 6 years. He has started directing for Naughty America this year. But maybe you know better... lol I have answered your other points in my previous post. PS: don't take my nickname and my signature too seriously. Winning internet debates is my favourite pastime [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 1:48PM While I'm sure there is likely a lot of pressure for small-chested ladies in porn to get boob implants, most people don't realize what the pressure is in the 'everday" world for it to happen. For example I happen to know someone who wanted a job as a prescription drug sales rep. A doctor friend of mine offered to help her get in. But he told her straight out.. You'll need to lose 20 pounds & get a boob job. The drug companies don't like chubby female sales reps with small tits. Lauren Tewes, from The Love Boat was constantly being badgered to get implants. It's one of the reasons she self-destructed. There is pressure that comes from all over the place for women to get new boobs in the workplaces. It is unfortunately part of today's lifestyle, and it's most certainly NOT limited to Porn-Land. [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 4:33PM And there you go again saying that I claim to "know" better. I don't claim, and never have claimed to "know" that boob jobs are unnecessary on porn stars. I haven't said anything other than to suggest that producers and stars not automatically assume that an actress with a boob job will make more money than a star without. Christian's performance in 513 pornos may make him an authority on performing in pornos, whatever that gets him, but unless he's done a valid statistical marketing study, and/or polled a valid representative customer sample, and can produce the data, he's no more an expert on this subject than he is on quantum string theory. Driving a car doesn't make you a qualified mechanic. I wish him luck as a producer, although his closed mind and 'I know everything already' attitude will, I fear make him just another one of the herd churning out the same crap most of them do. Off subject ENTIRELY: Can someone clue in an old man on this 'lol' business. I know it means 'laughing out loud' but is there a more specific meaning as well, such as 'just joking' 'you're so full of shit you make me laugh' or 'I mean this in a friendly way' or what? Thanks in advance. Education never stops (except, possibly, for porn producers, lol) [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 8:27PM [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 14 2009 : 1:03PM I find it ironic, don't you, that the development of, and obsession with breast implants and cosmetic surgery so closely coincides with women's successes towards workplace and social equality, reproductive rights and recognition as far more than sex objects? I hope that someday women will realize that cosmetic surgery isn't about their inadequacies, but it's all about the inadequacies of the men to whom such things as big tits matter. [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 9:38PM Now the only way I would keep seeking scenes from you is if you did anal. Hated Eva Angelina's tit job but her anal sluttiness made me a soft touch :-) [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 8:43AM I have heard so many women say how getting the implants got them more dates & more attention then when they were flat chested or smaller. So doesn't that prove that men will go for the bigger breasts whether they are natural or not? ___________________________________________________________ As I'e said, women are perfectly entitled IMO to do whatever pleases them to their bodies. My objection continues to be the pressure from their own or someone else's untested assumption that big fake tits are always better than smaller natural breasts. Anyway, I doubt there are any statistics about the disappointment, disgust, revulsion or lowered opinion of men who thought what was under that dress was the real thing only to find out that it was only a pair of surgical falsies. [Link] |
Savoy  All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 10:20AM Even in the few years I've been watching it, I've grown more accepting of boob jobs. There were some sets that really threw me off initially, now I don't even blink twice when I see them. I've been conditioned. Imagine it being something you've seen your whole life? [Link] |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 1:42PM ----Dread---- [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 6:18PM I guess some here have voiced an 'absolute hatred' of boob jobs. I don't count myself as one of those. In fact, although some boob jobs look terrible, I would not be surprised to discover that some girls I assume to have natural tits actually have fake ones. What I DO absolutely hate is the assumption that a girl will sell more DVDa if she gets a boob job. You've seen it in this thread and others: guys in the business saying that it does, without doubt; and their proof? Why, that most porn stars get boob jobs. And why do most porn stars get boob jobs? Because someone told them that they'll sell more DVDs. When your only proof for what you contend is to restate the contention, it's pretty clear to me that you have no proof. [Link] |
| Captain Tight Pants Member 337 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 7:24PM He asks "are they fake?" "No, they're real. You probably never felt real ones before" ----- [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Dec 19 2009 : 12:21AM [Link] |
| JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 12:58PM Edited by - JohnW on 12/21/2009 12:59:34 PM [Link] |
| rlevor Member 13 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 8:00PM 2.) Someday in the future, a brain implant will be available that will increase your ability to do math. Maybe it makes you slightly more of a dick and the people that surround you changes. But if you're an accountant, you're getting that fucking chip. 3.) In any event, I vote all natural, but this thread consensus doesn't seem all that scientific. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 8:33PM Certainly there's a following for big boobs but some of the most popular and successful gonzo girls in recent years include Sasha Grey, Jenna Haze, Brianna Love, Kristina Rose and Alexis Texas. Explain that. I find the fake boob job is usually done when a performer is finding her bookings are drying up (I remember Melissa Lauren saying this), the boob job is an attempt to revive their career and it works for a while but is usually a sign that the woman will be retiring in a year or so. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/21/2009 8:34:23 PM [Link] |
| joachim Senior Member 03 12 15 16 18 04 07 13 18 2285 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 10:28PM [Link] |
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