Just because we engage in the solo endeavor of masturbating to the same girl gives me no allegiance or connection to you whatsoever. Even if it did, the girl is hotter. I wouldn't even know you exist if you hadn't posted here. Speaking from inside the industry, what bothers the girls is not the fans and producers wishing and complaining that they should do a certain act. They are already used to knowing that all of their fans want to screw them. What's one more act on the list of things that will not happen? What bothers the girls is not the question: 'Do you do _____?' but the question immediately following their no answers: 'Why?' Most people don't appreciate having their personal decisions / values questioned by everyone in and out of the business. Why should they even be made to feel its necessary to explain the rationale behind deeply personal decisions to everyone? Why should she have to deal with people challenging her rationale on those decisions. After all, they already do x,y,z in front of the camera. And let's be honest, if someone asks why they don't do something the intent is not to understand the logic for the sake of understanding, but rather to understand the logic for the sake of challenging it. It seems that people inside and outside the industry think that because someone will do something as personal as have sex on camera, then they are, or should be, willing to completely open every aspect of their most private thoughts and self to anyone and everyone. These same people think talent has surrendered all rights to respect from general society. The reality is that their private selves are so much more dear to them because they do already expose so much on camera. That makes prying into and challenging them on their limits, and the logic and feelings behind them, so much more invasive and disrespectful. Producers and consumers paid money for a performance and that is all they have the right to expect. Nothing says when you hire a model that you also get to psychoanalyze them. How would you like to show up to work everyday and have people ask you why you don't engage in IR, gangbangs, anal, swallow, cum-swapping? And then then after you are foolish enough to provide your personal rationale, you get judged and challenged on it. I'm sure at some point you would start to think, "Shouldn't my 'no' be enough?" And you would be right. Because nobody is obliged to explain themselves. The work is personal enough without trying to cajole and coerce through prying and challenges. Just be happy that they do it in the first place. Call me a 'white knight' all you want. I sleep fine at night knowing I respect the feelings of others.
And if you want to know what the model's limits are, don't ask her about them. Instead go to her agency website. They are always posted.
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lenecplusultra Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 12 2010 : 12:59AM
^^^ The only reason they get asked those annoying questions( I have no doubt they are) is because they chose a job that puts them in the public eye. It's not just pornstars that get annoying questions and get asked about their personal lives, or have their decisions questionned. It's anybody that has a job that involves some kind of fame. If Tiger Woods was not the best golf player right now, no one would have known about his cheating habits (except maybe his wife and close family). Why do we have tabloids and gossip newspapers? Because the line of jobs that creates fame makes some idiots think they're entitled to parts of you. They are clearly wrong but this is just something that comes with fame.
If you do not want annoying stupid questions, just don't do anything that puts you in the public eye. As much getting your face all over magazines ( porn or not), is part of the job, annoying fans also come with the job.
But what's your point? I trust you're not insinuating that everybody who's not into asking annoying stupid questions should just throw up their hands and accept the inevitability of it all, and let those who do enjoy asking annoying stupid questions chase off every last industry person who dares to post here.
Sigh. First can we stop acting like saying bros before hoes is anything more than a cliche that is mainstream and widespread accepted as just meaning you put the interests of your buddy ahead of some woman? Some of you act as if I'm calling for women to be treated like feudal serfs. What I also love is when people talk about respecting or caring about women. In porn. Let's take this discussion to any female dominated board OUTSIDE the porn industry and let you make that case. Most women find the imagery of porn degrading and disgusting and would say that hardcore porn fans who populate forums like this...well, they wouldn't have a high opinion overall. And I seriously doubt they'd think you show any respect given the way the industry you support portrays women. Next, can we stop acting like we don't know that women almost always get paid more and are certainly heralded for each new niche of porn they enter which is why so many save various acts late in their career? It's annoying that things which are plainly evident if you even look at more than two porn boxes in your life, have to be explained on here. And for the blind devotion, I really don't know what else to say. Many people in the thread see it on this board. Many don't. I have seen pre-emptive strikes on this board where people say "new girl uh oh, better not let the trolls start with their usual round of questions." That's stifling. I personally think if you want to protect these delicate flowers so much there should be a separate section on the board that is for nothing but appreciation threads. Thank yous. etc. talking about favorite features, best movies, what's upcoming. But if you're gonna have a discussion board, some of the discussion may go to a place you don't like. As long as its within the rules people shouldn't be so sensitive. In any case, the Wal Mart analogy was a simple one (unlike my movie star one which fits the theme better)and the major problem with taking that one to the extreme is that unlike porn stars, Wal Mart employees don't determine how the product ends up. Porn stars do. Wal Mart employees don't directly affect the product, they don't determine how its created and they don't set the limitations. Porn stars do. So they are much more than simple employees who stock the shelves and ring in customer purchases; porn stars directly affect the product. Oh and the bitching about Janine? Do we just have to stick to a dry retelling of the facts? Fine. Janine Lindemulder- bio Janine Lindemulder did not begin her film career in adult videos. With her gorgeous yet teenage girlish looks and incredible body, she had begun appearing in "mainstream" films in the 1980s, though in typical "blonde bimbo" roles. Among the few "mainstream" movies to her credit is Lauderdale (1989), but the films were received so poorly, however, and her performances were considered so bland that her mainstream career basically went nowhere. She began her "adult" career in a low-budget soft-porn (although it was made by a director of hardcore porn films and had several adult-film performers in the cast) women-in-prison extravaganza called Caged Fury (1989), which featured well-known non-adult actor Erik Estrada. Having made an impression, Janine's career in the adult industry had begun. She performed in a few lesser-known films in 1990, performing sexually with male co-stars exclusively. It was during this very short period in her adult film career that her son, Tyler, was conceived. Realizing that his conception was the result of unprotected sex with male co-stars, Janine officially refused to work with men any longer. She interrupted her career during her pregnancy, but after the birth of her son she returned to the adult industry with a bang and a new condition--she would perform only with women. Her career took off, and she appeared in many popular adult films, such as the "Where the Boys Aren't" series and she had one of her most highly regarded (by her fans) roles in Blondage (1994) (V). She is a legendary figure in the adult film industry--with hundreds of scenes performed exclusively with other women, Janine is the literal poster-girl for girl/girl adult films. There are many fan clubs (male and female alike) that celebrate her choice to work with other women and her delightful, upbeat personality. Although she retired from the adult industry in 2000 in terms of performing (much to the regret of her legions of fans), she remains as a director/producer, and is one of the most famous and recognizable figures in the history of porn, right up there with Ron Jeremy, Peter North, and her "disciple", Jenna Jameson. The few scenes she filmed with male co-stars early in her adult career are widely sought after and extremely difficult to come by. IMDb Mini Biography By: Diane De Rosa Now my opinion? Her girl- girl scenes were boring because she did so many for Vivid which has something of a house style. And I was bored after several of them. She was featured on boxcovers many of which didn't explain she only did girl-girl which if you were a casual fan, you might pick up believing that she would full hardcore. I expect every post to now have that level of detail and scrutiny since every statement has to be completely fact based.
So IREX, In your perfect fantasy "Bros before Hoes" messageboard world when you ask these these porngirls why they don't do whatever it is you feel they need to be doing, and they say "I'm just not into it..." what exactly should happen next? And how exactly should your "bros" back you? Edited by - draxxx on 4/12/2010 8:49:35 PM
