What's a fair price for a domain name?

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Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:21PM Need some advice from anyone with experience in getting their own domain name back. I am trying to get the domain www.brandoniron.com but need to know the going rates. Anyone? [Link]
OREN Anarchy Films 250 Posts 12/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:27PM Brandon, go to networksolutions.com. It's about $30.00 for three years. Oren [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:27PM Maybe you could send them the Brandon Iron Platinum Collecton. [Link]
codybangs Digital Playground 676 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:28PM Brandon Iron wrote: Need some advice from anyone with experience in getting their own domain name back. I am trying to get the domain www.brandoniron.com but need to know the going rates. Anyone? Click to expand It depends on how much the owner thinks it's worth. You'll just have to write the owner of that domain and see what he/she thinks it's worth. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:39PM Thanks, Oren. The problem is someone else bought the domain name. I want it back for me, not him. I read on a site how Lex Steele had a lawyer help him get his back from a cybersquatter. It cost around $15,000, but damages can be recovered by suing in Federal Court. I want to avoid the hassle and just do things efficiently. [Link]

Lance Member My Life Sucks 386 Posts 4/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:46PM You may be able to sue but good luck, if thier in Russia or someplace like that. Do you have the whois info on the owner? [Link]
KatjaKassin Senior Member 1257 Posts 5/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:48PM Hi Brandon, I wouldn't pay 15.000 for a domain name. Sure it sucks that somebody else bought that domain but porno fans who want to see more of your work, maybe you full lenght movies, behind the scenes or whatever you plan on putting on your site, they will always go and look for you. I'm sure there are other cool names that relate to you like clubbrandoniron or brandonironxxx or so. At the end people are interessted in the content you're providing not in the name. [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:48PM There is no going rate, anymore than there is a going rate for DAP. There's how much you are willing to pay, how much they are willing to take, and the possibility that these two field have a point at which they overlap. Good luck! [Link]
willywilly Member Activated Member 662 Posts 2/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:51PM Brandon Iron wrote: Thanks, Oren. The problem is someone else bought the domain name. I want it back for me, not him. I read on a site how Lex Steele had a lawyer help him get his back from a cybersquatter. It cost around $15,000, but damages can be recovered by suing in Federal Court. I want to avoid the hassle and just do things efficiently. Click to expand They don't look like they are just squatting on it, waiting to try to sell it. Looks like they are actively using it for business. Of course, I'm not a lawyer - but I'm guessing that that would make it harder if not impossible to pry them off. Check out http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=2MU4AA5QQ24WKCWMEAPSFEQ?whoistoken=0&_requestid=107555 anyway. It will only take you a couple minutes. Maybe some of the information there will be of use to you. For what it is worth, it looks like their registration expires Oct 6 of this year. Maybe you'll get lucky. :) [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:53PM I have e-mailed the domain name owner and we are going back and forth. I am kind of ignorant about all this. He is a Montreal-based web guy who is asking me what I want to pay. I don't know what to say. [Link]
Lance Member My Life Sucks 386 Posts 4/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:54PM Katja's got a good point, the URL I think would be nice to have but not absolutely necessary IMO. How about therealbrandoniron.com or theonlybrandoniron.com Then just get some SEO done on your site so if someone searches for your name it comes up high on the search. KatjaKassin wrote: Hi Brandon, I wouldn't pay 15.000 for a domain name. Sure it sucks that somebody else bought that domain but porno fans who want to see more of your work, maybe you full lenght movies, behind the scenes or whatever you plan on putting on your site, they will always go and look for you. I'm sure there are other cool names that relate to you like clubbrandoniron or brandonironxxx or so. At the end people are interessted in the content you're providing not in the name. Click to expand www.alexandrabelle.com [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 3:56PM SEO? The real question should be: If I get a site going, will Katja come do a live show??? [Link]
Lance Member My Life Sucks 386 Posts 4/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:00PM (Search engine optimization don't really understand it myself but my friends do) And your absolutely right, I'm sounding like a geek, in front of Katja. PS If she does a live show, I'll sign up. (and I don't pay for porn!) Brandon Iron wrote: SEO? The real question should be: If I get a site going, will Katja come do a live show??? Click to expand www.alexandrabelle.com [Link]
oatmeal Meat Popsicle Seeking Beauty 1738 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:04PM there's always the option of an alternate domain name... such as www.brandonironxxx.com or the new .xxx domain names. Do you have your name trademarked? From internic: Under the UDRP, domain-name disputes must generally be resolved in the same way as any other conventional dispute: by mutual agreement, court action, or voluntary arbitration. Without a court order or consent of the registrant, a registrar will not cancel, suspend, or transfer a domain name. The UDRP also established an administrative procedure for speedy, low-cost resolution of a specific category of disputes: those arising from abusive, bad faith registrations of domain names. In such cases, – commonly called "cybersquatting" – a holder of trademark rights initiates the administrative procedure by filing a complaint with an approved dispute-resolution service provider. In order to have the domain name transferred or cancelled, the trademark holder must establish (1) that he has a legally recognized trademark in a name that is identical or confusingly similar to the domain name; (2) that the current registrant of the domain name has no legitimate rights in the name; and (3) that there has been some evidence of bad faith or abuse. (Please note that this is just a summary of the applicable provisions; please refer to the full text of the policy for details.) [Link]
CaptainSweden Member My lobster! 146 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:10PM I gotta agree with Katja too. Sure it would be cool to have the "real" domain name. Obviously. But if you're gonna have to pay a bunch of dineros to some guy who's trying to use your name to make money I'd say screw it. The real fans couldn't care less about the name. We just wanna see your nasty stuff online. It all comes down to how much you're willing to pay. [Link]

TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:16PM Brandon Iron wrote: I don't know what to say. Click to expand You should offer to blow him. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:29PM Thanks, Tony. I guess I would just have to do without a site then. [Link]
ObiBong Senior Member 1162 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:47PM Why do you want it? If it's just for personal satisfaction, that's one thing. If it's because you think there's business value, I'd think hard about that. Back in the '90s, someone who typed in carlsjr.com and found Carl Smith Jr. might have been stumped. Today, anyone will be able to google their way to you in seconds. Your domain could be pink-elephants.biz and people would find it, I'm guessing. Don't overpay. Lowball him. [Link]
techie Member 62 Posts 4/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 4:59PM You have several options: 1. buy the domain 2. use the UDRP if you have your name trademarked.. it looks like this site is being used to make money off of your name. If you don't have your name trademarked, do it.. it might still help in this situation.. 3. register an alternate name ie: brandonironxxx.com, brandoniron.xxx, brandon-iron.com, etc.. you can do this in addition to any of the other options. 4. keep a close eye on their registration, and scoop it up if it expires.. be aware that it may not be available immediately if it expires, there is a "redemption period" where the name can be reclaimed by the previous registrant. I would make sure your name is trademarked, register alternate names, and use the UDRP. Whatever you do, DON'T register thru Network Solutions.. they are the most incompetent idiots you will ever deal with, and it's been this way for years... They charge BMW prices, and deliver Yugo service.. Use GoDaddy, Dotster, OpenSRS or one of the other registrars.. you'll get a lot more bang for a lot less buck, and a lot fewer headaches in the process. Google "Network Solutions" Complaints for more info.. [Link]
MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 5:00PM Well I wouldn't offer any more than 1000. I don't know what your income is but that's all it would be worth to me. There is nothing wrong with "www.brandonironxxx.com" or "www.brandon-iron.com" now is there? good luck [Link]
Lance Member My Life Sucks 386 Posts 4/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 5:26PM I agree with the above, don't get screwed over big bucks for nothin, personally I wold stay away from registerfly as well, I have several Domains through them and they are constantly getting locked out, and thier customer service is very condecending, and will only tell you to send an email that won't get answered for weeks. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 5:28PM Brandon, looks like it is one of those companies that register a whole load of pornstar names to sell movies. I would not offer them more than costs for it, maybe $100 extra. If you want to go the UDRP way, you need to have a trademark on Brandon Iron, if you already have that, you have a good chance of winning, since you obviously can win on the points 2 and 3 that Oatmeal mentioned. Jacco [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 5:35PM Thanks, all! I appreciate the education! [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 5:38PM Is Brandon Iron your birthname? Then it would be much easier to get the domain name. Otherwise I would agree with Katja. Just take any other name. After Katja signed for lifeshows, your official site will be listed on all search engines at the top very soon. [Link]
LadyB Black and Blue, USA 161 Posts 2/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 6:00PM Brandon - you can still get BrandonIron.net from what Network Solutions search is saying. Pay the $30 for the domain name itself rather than let this person try and take you, but I'd suggest that you do it now, because this guy probably watches the porn boards too. Black and Blue Media: PR and Publicity [Link]

Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 6:11PM Step one: I registered www.brandonironxxx.com today for $9.20 for one year! Step two: Build site and invite Katja over to test out face-sitting cam that will be on my nose. Step three: Laugh all the way to the bank and take over world. Thanks! This journey of a thousand miles just took its first step. Thanks for the help! (Thanks, Techie. I used godaddy.com. Fast, cheap, and easy for non-techies like me!) [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 6:11PM LadyB wrote: Brandon - you can still get BrandonIron.net from what Network Solutions search is saying. Pay the $30 for the domain name itself rather than let this person try and take you, but I'd suggest that you do it now, because this guy probably watches the porn boards too. Click to expand Network solutions!?! $30!?! Why don't you tell the guy to stick his tongue in a light socket while your at it! Brandon, GoDaddy.com. Eight buck. Done. Or give the guy a blowjob. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 6:13PM Thanks, Tony. Can I borrow $8? I used my credit card... [Link]
LadyB Black and Blue, USA 161 Posts 2/05	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 6:26PM TonyC, I'm always looking for the place that won't hassle me with trying to force extra services on me for the lower price they offer for domains. I've never dealt with most of the cheaper domain registration services, because they try to sell you a higher rate hosting package to give you a cheaper domain name. Is GoDaddy.com and company that will just give you the domain name for $8 without having to pay for their hosting too? Is there a catch with GoDaddy? I need to get a new domain myself and would appreciate any information you have on GoDaddy.com or other options. Black and Blue Media: PR and Publicity [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 9:36PM I got my domain from godaddy and I love them! Cheap too :) Just remember, if you ever need a webmaster you know who to email <--- [Link]
oatmeal Meat Popsicle Seeking Beauty 1738 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 9:50PM I don't know if there's a way you can get him to say his site has nothing to do with the official home of Brandon Iron. Maybe it's enough for you to mention it on your site or in the searchable meta tags so google and other sites and pick up on it first. www.brandonironxxx.com the only official source for your recommended daily intake of iron [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 30 2005 : 9:56PM I just woke up and realized that it's 2005 and I need an internet deal! Got to make up for lost time. [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 10:26AM Brandon, offer the guy $500. It's worth it to have your name. That's a reasonable offer. [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 10:32AM Steph wrote: Brandon, offer the guy $500. It's worth it to have your name. That's a reasonable offer. Click to expand Start at unreasonable to end up settling at reasonable. [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 11:49AM When I get cheap offers on domain names I don't bother negotiating. While we're talking about this is there anywhere good to sell domain names? We have stuff like DVDJam.com and DVDeverything and a bunch of AdultDVD ones to sell. Doesn't look like ebay does very well with domain name sales. [Link]

AlexPanzer Deactivated User 1593 Posts 6/03	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 1:19PM This thing of getting the domain name can cost and you can get that guy to court. Good thing that I have reserved www.alexpanzer.com some time ago. [Link]
gia jordan Member 670 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 2:53PM Brandon, just out of curiousity...did the guy that took your name as his domain name happen to be a Las Vegas welder that specializes in very elaborate front doors and gates? There is a company there called 'Brandon Irons.' When I lived there, it felt funny when they came to my house to do an estimate and parked a huge Brandon Irons truck outside. I was too shy to ask if they knew about the true creator of AGSOI. [Link]
gia jordan Member 670 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 4:00PM I believe if you have your name trademarked with a federal ID#, then you may have a legal angle in your favor. Otherwise, just follow Katja's advice of being brandonironxxx.com or whatever. It's so true that your fans will be so happy that you have a site, that it won't make a dif. Seems like your movies are so anticipated that your fans would love to get their fill from your site while they're waiting for the next flick to street. Also, be sure to ask your webmaster about the right metatags so that when your name is googled, your site comes up on the first google page. Gawd, I'm such a cum-covered geek. Btw, I didn't mean to make light of your situation in my last post. [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 4:02PM Brandon, If what LadyB said about www.BrandonIron.net still being available is still true, I'd reccomend you grab that one as well. Once you have it, just get it set up to auto-redirect any visitors to www.brandonironxxx.com That way you'll own two of the versions of your name-site, both going to the same site of yours.. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 4:41PM Thanks for the input, everyone. I appreciate it. Gia: You discovered my secret underground business that helps finance my productions. Keep it quiet! Just kidding.... I registered www.brandonironxxx.com and think that could work. Will look at options very soon. Again, thanks! [Link]
KatjaKassin Senior Member 1257 Posts 5/03	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 8:04PM Hi Brandon, Sure I come to do a live show if you pay me what my ass is worth. lol Maybe you should host your site in Germany, I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that there is a lot of paperwork involved for US webmasters now that the 2257 law is in effect. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jul 1 2005 : 8:23PM President Kennedy said it best: "Eich bein ein Berliner." Yes, Katja, I would be happy to move to Germany with you and raise a family. That was your next question, right? [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jul 2 2005 : 5:06AM KatjaKassin wrote: Maybe you should host your site in Germany, I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that there is a lot of paperwork involved for US webmasters now that the 2257 law is in effect. Click to expand No, I wouldn't recommend this. German laws are very restrictive when it comes to porn. Brandon wouldn't be allowed to sell DVDs via his site. To any German smart ass Of course I know about the changes in the "Jugendschutz"-laws and the "Versandhandel"-laws. But it doesn't change very much in practice. [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jul 2 2005 : 6:04AM Brandon Iron wrote: President Kennedy said it best: "Eich bein ein Berliner." Click to expand Yeah, the great JFK and his memorable Berlin speech just inspired me to a new Brandon Iron series. I STILL HAVE A CUM BUCKET IN BERLIN I STILL HAVE A CUM BUCKET IN VENICE I STILL HAVE A CUM BUCKET IN PARIS I STILL HAVE A CUM BUCKET IN BOMBAY I STILL HAVE A CUM BUCKET IN HONGKONG Unfortunately due to 2257 this will never happen. [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Jul 2 2005 : 11:28AM Brandon Iron wrote: Step one: I registered www.brandonironxxx.com today for $9.20 for one year! Step two: Build site and invite Katja over to test out face-sitting cam that will be on my nose. Step three: Laugh all the way to the bank and take over world. Click to expand Step two-point-five: Make sure that your website is prominently displayed on the back of all of your DVD covers. That way, someone browsing covers in the online shops knows where to go in order to check out your stuff before buying. Step two-point-seven-five: If you don't have information about upcoming and new releases on your site, make sure that you have prominent links to the upcoming and new release section on PXP's site. [Link]
sunchen Xin Vision The Spiteful, Delightful Eyeful 433 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jul 3 2005 : 3:17AM TonyC wrote: Start at unreasonable to end up settling at reasonable. Click to expand Sorry to temporarily hijack this thread, Brandon, but...TonyC, are you ignoring me? Here I go sending you semi nude pics, and I get no response. Does that mean you won't shoot me? The power of the pimp hand compels YOU! (And you, and you...and you.) [Link]
EL_ Member Browsing with Mouse Gestures 193 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 4 2005 : 3:18PM AlekJamesHidell.com might be good too. [Link]
Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jul 4 2005 : 3:38PM Sorry, but he wound up in the poor house and wouldn't be able to afford to register the domain name. [Link]
threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jul 4 2005 : 4:17PM I just took the advice of everyone and reserved threesomebody.com. Now when I make it big as an ADT poster, no one will try to profit off my success. I want pictures on my site of various posters sitting on my strap-on. Any volunteers? $5 for a year through ICDSoft. I have used them for hosting and domain registration for several years and I have never had a single problem. They offer some really great hosting plans, if anyone is looking for that. [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jul 4 2005 : 4:41PM threesomebody wrote: I just took the advice of everyone and reserved threesomebody.com. Now when I make it big as an ADT poster, no one will try to profit off my success. I want pictures on my site of various posters sitting on my strap-on. Any volunteers? Click to expand Joey perhaps? [Link]
threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jul 4 2005 : 5:16PM juha wrote: Joey perhaps? Click to expand Who's that? [Link]